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On March 10 2012 02:58 supsun wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 02:45 Fionn wrote:On March 10 2012 02:42 supsun wrote:On March 10 2012 01:58 TheBanana wrote:On March 10 2012 01:48 firemansam wrote:
Puma has done what in gsl vs other koreans? Why does the name of the tournament matter? He has a great record against top Koreans in big tournaments. Has he even played in the actual tournament GSL apart from qualifiers? Why count his skill based on non-existant matches? Because GSL had preparation time, something we don't know I'd PuMa is good at. That said, he should've been invited to the Blizzard Cup for winning NASL2 instead of Polt. It wouldn't tested him in the "learn the shit out of your opponent" play style. Polt was invited to the Blizzard Cup the same reason MMA was. They were consistent and had been doing well in the GSL for the entire year of 2011 and had won various tournaments to prove it. If Puma beats MC, he probably should get a spot, but who knows. It's definitely between Polt, Puma and Naniwa. If they want the two BEST players, it's Polt and Puma. If they want the viewers, then it's Naniwa and one of Polt/Puma. I think if GOM wants mass viewership, Stephano would be a batter choice over Naniwa. Plus Stephano won more than Naniwa.
Depends if Stephano wants to go to Korea, which I don't know yet (does anyone know?)
Also, GO MC!
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On March 10 2012 02:58 supsun wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 02:45 Fionn wrote:On March 10 2012 02:42 supsun wrote:On March 10 2012 01:58 TheBanana wrote:On March 10 2012 01:48 firemansam wrote:
Puma has done what in gsl vs other koreans? Why does the name of the tournament matter? He has a great record against top Koreans in big tournaments. Has he even played in the actual tournament GSL apart from qualifiers? Why count his skill based on non-existant matches? Because GSL had preparation time, something we don't know I'd PuMa is good at. That said, he should've been invited to the Blizzard Cup for winning NASL2 instead of Polt. It wouldn't tested him in the "learn the shit out of your opponent" play style. Polt was invited to the Blizzard Cup the same reason MMA was. They were consistent and had been doing well in the GSL for the entire year of 2011 and had won various tournaments to prove it. If Puma beats MC, he probably should get a spot, but who knows. It's definitely between Polt, Puma and Naniwa. If they want the two BEST players, it's Polt and Puma. If they want the viewers, then it's Naniwa and one of Polt/Puma. I think if GOM wants mass viewership, Stephano would be a batter choice over Naniwa. Plus Stephano won more than Naniwa.
He didn't accept a code S seed when he was in Korea, why he would accept it now?
Stephano wants to make money and in the GSL there's no money for him.
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Just came home from school.... MMA WTF? !?!??! =((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
Were the games close ?
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On March 10 2012 03:03 SeaSwift wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 02:58 supsun wrote:On March 10 2012 02:45 Fionn wrote:On March 10 2012 02:42 supsun wrote:On March 10 2012 01:58 TheBanana wrote:On March 10 2012 01:48 firemansam wrote:
Puma has done what in gsl vs other koreans? Why does the name of the tournament matter? He has a great record against top Koreans in big tournaments. Has he even played in the actual tournament GSL apart from qualifiers? Why count his skill based on non-existant matches? Because GSL had preparation time, something we don't know I'd PuMa is good at. That said, he should've been invited to the Blizzard Cup for winning NASL2 instead of Polt. It wouldn't tested him in the "learn the shit out of your opponent" play style. Polt was invited to the Blizzard Cup the same reason MMA was. They were consistent and had been doing well in the GSL for the entire year of 2011 and had won various tournaments to prove it. If Puma beats MC, he probably should get a spot, but who knows. It's definitely between Polt, Puma and Naniwa. If they want the two BEST players, it's Polt and Puma. If they want the viewers, then it's Naniwa and one of Polt/Puma. I think if GOM wants mass viewership, Stephano would be a batter choice over Naniwa. Plus Stephano won more than Naniwa. Depends if Stephano wants to go to Korea, which I don't know yet (does anyone know?) Also, GO MC!
MC~
Stephano said on his stream a couple of days ago that he was thinking about going back to korea soon, but he wasn't completely sure. I really hope he gets a chance to play in the GSL if he does go back.
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On March 10 2012 02:45 Fionn wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 02:42 supsun wrote:On March 10 2012 01:58 TheBanana wrote:On March 10 2012 01:48 firemansam wrote:
Puma has done what in gsl vs other koreans? Why does the name of the tournament matter? He has a great record against top Koreans in big tournaments. Has he even played in the actual tournament GSL apart from qualifiers? Why count his skill based on non-existant matches? Because GSL had preparation time, something we don't know I'd PuMa is good at. That said, he should've been invited to the Blizzard Cup for winning NASL2 instead of Polt. It wouldn't tested him in the "learn the shit out of your opponent" play style. Polt was invited to the Blizzard Cup the same reason MMA was. They were consistent and had been doing well in the GSL for the entire year of 2011 and had won various tournaments to prove it. If Puma beats MC, he probably should get a spot, but who knows. It's definitely between Polt, Puma and Naniwa. If they want the two BEST players, it's Polt and Puma. If they want the viewers, then it's Naniwa and one of Polt/Puma.
Even if Puma loses to MC, he should get the spot. He's already been passed over last season. Second, it's not just a 3 man race. Don't forget there are many other players in contention. If Stephano were to show interest, he could probably get a spot. Kas did get 3rd at both WCG and IEM Kiev (considering that Sen was given a seed because he got 3rd at Blizzcon and NASL). Dimaga got 2nd at IEM Kiev, losing only to the world's best TvZ player in MMA. He also got top 8 at HSC.
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On March 10 2012 03:05 0ne wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 02:58 supsun wrote:On March 10 2012 02:45 Fionn wrote:On March 10 2012 02:42 supsun wrote:On March 10 2012 01:58 TheBanana wrote:On March 10 2012 01:48 firemansam wrote:
Puma has done what in gsl vs other koreans? Why does the name of the tournament matter? He has a great record against top Koreans in big tournaments. Has he even played in the actual tournament GSL apart from qualifiers? Why count his skill based on non-existant matches? Because GSL had preparation time, something we don't know I'd PuMa is good at. That said, he should've been invited to the Blizzard Cup for winning NASL2 instead of Polt. It wouldn't tested him in the "learn the shit out of your opponent" play style. Polt was invited to the Blizzard Cup the same reason MMA was. They were consistent and had been doing well in the GSL for the entire year of 2011 and had won various tournaments to prove it. If Puma beats MC, he probably should get a spot, but who knows. It's definitely between Polt, Puma and Naniwa. If they want the two BEST players, it's Polt and Puma. If they want the viewers, then it's Naniwa and one of Polt/Puma. I think if GOM wants mass viewership, Stephano would be a batter choice over Naniwa. Plus Stephano won more than Naniwa. He didn't accept a code S seed when he was in Korea, why he would accept it now? Stephano wants to make money and in the GSL there's no money for him.
Xcept, if he can become as good as DRG or at least Leenock, which might be possible, if he would practice with decent players over there
He stated somewhere that he cant imagine living there, tho
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On March 10 2012 03:09 GodOfWar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 03:05 0ne wrote:On March 10 2012 02:58 supsun wrote:On March 10 2012 02:45 Fionn wrote:On March 10 2012 02:42 supsun wrote:On March 10 2012 01:58 TheBanana wrote:On March 10 2012 01:48 firemansam wrote:
Puma has done what in gsl vs other koreans? Why does the name of the tournament matter? He has a great record against top Koreans in big tournaments. Has he even played in the actual tournament GSL apart from qualifiers? Why count his skill based on non-existant matches? Because GSL had preparation time, something we don't know I'd PuMa is good at. That said, he should've been invited to the Blizzard Cup for winning NASL2 instead of Polt. It wouldn't tested him in the "learn the shit out of your opponent" play style. Polt was invited to the Blizzard Cup the same reason MMA was. They were consistent and had been doing well in the GSL for the entire year of 2011 and had won various tournaments to prove it. If Puma beats MC, he probably should get a spot, but who knows. It's definitely between Polt, Puma and Naniwa. If they want the two BEST players, it's Polt and Puma. If they want the viewers, then it's Naniwa and one of Polt/Puma. I think if GOM wants mass viewership, Stephano would be a batter choice over Naniwa. Plus Stephano won more than Naniwa. He didn't accept a code S seed when he was in Korea, why he would accept it now? Stephano wants to make money and in the GSL there's no money for him. Xcept, if he can become as good as DRG or at least Leenock, which might be possible, if he would practice with decent players over there
That's not his top priority right now. He's not like Naniwa in that regard. Winnings > Skill and getting better
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winter arena stephano made the final my bad got owned 4-1. he had the easiest bracket ever in IPL3 and won a zvz vs an unknown korean what a boss. not. IEM kiev the play off bracket made it impossible for an all korean final dimaga still got slapped down in the final. IEMgaunshou their were only 3 koreans in the comp and 2 of them faced off in the quarterfinals. MLG providence naniwa is pretty much korean now.. Huk won Orlando he is def korean by now. Thorzain won Dreamhack after just geting back from korea. so out of all them comps that had foreigners in the finals 3 foreigners won and they had all trained in korea so all i can say is stephano has gained my respect
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On March 10 2012 03:11 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 03:09 GodOfWar wrote:On March 10 2012 03:05 0ne wrote:On March 10 2012 02:58 supsun wrote:On March 10 2012 02:45 Fionn wrote:On March 10 2012 02:42 supsun wrote:On March 10 2012 01:58 TheBanana wrote:On March 10 2012 01:48 firemansam wrote:
Puma has done what in gsl vs other koreans? Why does the name of the tournament matter? He has a great record against top Koreans in big tournaments. Has he even played in the actual tournament GSL apart from qualifiers? Why count his skill based on non-existant matches? Because GSL had preparation time, something we don't know I'd PuMa is good at. That said, he should've been invited to the Blizzard Cup for winning NASL2 instead of Polt. It wouldn't tested him in the "learn the shit out of your opponent" play style. Polt was invited to the Blizzard Cup the same reason MMA was. They were consistent and had been doing well in the GSL for the entire year of 2011 and had won various tournaments to prove it. If Puma beats MC, he probably should get a spot, but who knows. It's definitely between Polt, Puma and Naniwa. If they want the two BEST players, it's Polt and Puma. If they want the viewers, then it's Naniwa and one of Polt/Puma. I think if GOM wants mass viewership, Stephano would be a batter choice over Naniwa. Plus Stephano won more than Naniwa. He didn't accept a code S seed when he was in Korea, why he would accept it now? Stephano wants to make money and in the GSL there's no money for him. Xcept, if he can become as good as DRG or at least Leenock, which might be possible, if he would practice with decent players over there That's not his top priority right now. He's not like Naniwa in that regard. Winnings > Skill and getting better
Do you mean Naniwa thinks that or Stephano does? =/
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When are 3rd place and finals?
Oh, tommorow i guess?
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woah wtf,
wake up to puma 3-1 MMA o.O
looks like MC will take on his old nemesis Puma once again. Good job by feast too.
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On March 10 2012 03:19 SeaSwift wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 03:11 Bagration wrote:On March 10 2012 03:09 GodOfWar wrote:On March 10 2012 03:05 0ne wrote:On March 10 2012 02:58 supsun wrote:On March 10 2012 02:45 Fionn wrote:On March 10 2012 02:42 supsun wrote:On March 10 2012 01:58 TheBanana wrote:On March 10 2012 01:48 firemansam wrote:
Puma has done what in gsl vs other koreans? Why does the name of the tournament matter? He has a great record against top Koreans in big tournaments. Has he even played in the actual tournament GSL apart from qualifiers? Why count his skill based on non-existant matches? Because GSL had preparation time, something we don't know I'd PuMa is good at. That said, he should've been invited to the Blizzard Cup for winning NASL2 instead of Polt. It wouldn't tested him in the "learn the shit out of your opponent" play style. Polt was invited to the Blizzard Cup the same reason MMA was. They were consistent and had been doing well in the GSL for the entire year of 2011 and had won various tournaments to prove it. If Puma beats MC, he probably should get a spot, but who knows. It's definitely between Polt, Puma and Naniwa. If they want the two BEST players, it's Polt and Puma. If they want the viewers, then it's Naniwa and one of Polt/Puma. I think if GOM wants mass viewership, Stephano would be a batter choice over Naniwa. Plus Stephano won more than Naniwa. He didn't accept a code S seed when he was in Korea, why he would accept it now? Stephano wants to make money and in the GSL there's no money for him. Xcept, if he can become as good as DRG or at least Leenock, which might be possible, if he would practice with decent players over there That's not his top priority right now. He's not like Naniwa in that regard. Winnings > Skill and getting better Do you mean Naniwa thinks that or Stephano does? =/
I think Naniwa is someone driven to become the best, thus he goes to Korea to train with the best. He takes defeat very hard, and is focused on getting better.
Stephano on the other hand, is planning to retire to go to medical school. For him, he might not be in the scene long enough to justify focusing on getting better. Instead, he seems to want to "take his skills to the bank".
Both I think are fair ways to look at it. I like Naniwa's determination to be the best, but I also realize the practicality of Stephano wanting to invest in higher education.
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On March 10 2012 02:54 alistarnl wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 02:48 Recognizable wrote:
MC is going to win 3-1. It's TvP and Puma isn't good enough to beat MC anyway, he will win 1 map due to the dynamics of the TvP matchup. Puma already won two big finals against MC 
At the time when the metagame was hugely in favor of terrans. Now things have changed.
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In Stephano wants a Code S seed he will get one. Sadly he doesn't want one and he'd rather just faceroll EU tournaments than try and become the worlds best player.
If Puma wins tomorrow it should be him and Polt.
If not then Polt and I guess either Naniwa or Puma anyway. There's not really an outstanding candidate outside of Polt.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was just Naniwa and Xigua anyway though.
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On March 10 2012 01:45 firemansam wrote:
a farce? that there is some actual competition instead of inviting or letting koreans "qualify" i mean cmon as if they are not gunna win the qualifiers u may as well invite them. just dont invite them it will be much close. who wants to cheer on koreans? i personaly want to cheer for westerners im not racisit. i just think gsl is great the koreans can vs other koreans and its even and intresting. and if foreingers wanna waste their time going to korea and trying to compete in gsl let them go ill cheer for them. but this is just annoying must be just me
Yeah and some of us actually want to see good games.
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On March 10 2012 03:24 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 03:19 SeaSwift wrote:On March 10 2012 03:11 Bagration wrote:On March 10 2012 03:09 GodOfWar wrote:On March 10 2012 03:05 0ne wrote:On March 10 2012 02:58 supsun wrote:On March 10 2012 02:45 Fionn wrote:On March 10 2012 02:42 supsun wrote:On March 10 2012 01:58 TheBanana wrote:On March 10 2012 01:48 firemansam wrote:
Puma has done what in gsl vs other koreans? Why does the name of the tournament matter? He has a great record against top Koreans in big tournaments. Has he even played in the actual tournament GSL apart from qualifiers? Why count his skill based on non-existant matches? Because GSL had preparation time, something we don't know I'd PuMa is good at. That said, he should've been invited to the Blizzard Cup for winning NASL2 instead of Polt. It wouldn't tested him in the "learn the shit out of your opponent" play style. Polt was invited to the Blizzard Cup the same reason MMA was. They were consistent and had been doing well in the GSL for the entire year of 2011 and had won various tournaments to prove it. If Puma beats MC, he probably should get a spot, but who knows. It's definitely between Polt, Puma and Naniwa. If they want the two BEST players, it's Polt and Puma. If they want the viewers, then it's Naniwa and one of Polt/Puma. I think if GOM wants mass viewership, Stephano would be a batter choice over Naniwa. Plus Stephano won more than Naniwa. He didn't accept a code S seed when he was in Korea, why he would accept it now? Stephano wants to make money and in the GSL there's no money for him. Xcept, if he can become as good as DRG or at least Leenock, which might be possible, if he would practice with decent players over there That's not his top priority right now. He's not like Naniwa in that regard. Winnings > Skill and getting better Do you mean Naniwa thinks that or Stephano does? =/ I think Naniwa is someone driven to become the best, thus he goes to Korea to train with the best. He takes defeat very hard, and is focused on getting better. Stephano on the other hand, is planning to retire to go to medical school. For him, he might not be in the scene long enough to justify focusing on getting better. Instead, he seems to want to "take his skills to the bank". Both I think are fair ways to look at it. I like Naniwa's determination to be the best, but I also realize the practicality of Stephano wanting to invest in higher education.
Stephano talks a lot of shit. He clearly cares a lot about the game and isn't purely in it for money.
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On March 10 2012 03:32 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 01:45 firemansam wrote:
a farce? that there is some actual competition instead of inviting or letting koreans "qualify" i mean cmon as if they are not gunna win the qualifiers u may as well invite them. just dont invite them it will be much close. who wants to cheer on koreans? i personaly want to cheer for westerners im not racisit. i just think gsl is great the koreans can vs other koreans and its even and intresting. and if foreingers wanna waste their time going to korea and trying to compete in gsl let them go ill cheer for them. but this is just annoying must be just me Yeah and some of us actually want to see good games.
so your saying games with foreigners vs foreigners are boring? its more entertaining to watch koreans stomp foreigners then vs each other? ok
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On March 10 2012 03:35 firemansam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 03:32 1Eris1 wrote:On March 10 2012 01:45 firemansam wrote:
a farce? that there is some actual competition instead of inviting or letting koreans "qualify" i mean cmon as if they are not gunna win the qualifiers u may as well invite them. just dont invite them it will be much close. who wants to cheer on koreans? i personaly want to cheer for westerners im not racisit. i just think gsl is great the koreans can vs other koreans and its even and intresting. and if foreingers wanna waste their time going to korea and trying to compete in gsl let them go ill cheer for them. but this is just annoying must be just me Yeah and some of us actually want to see good games. so your saying games with foreigners vs foreigners are boring? its more entertaining to watch koreans stomp foreigners then vs each other? ok
It doesn't really matter what the flag next to the guys name is on the overlay. A good game is a good game.
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On March 10 2012 03:35 firemansam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 03:32 1Eris1 wrote:On March 10 2012 01:45 firemansam wrote:
a farce? that there is some actual competition instead of inviting or letting koreans "qualify" i mean cmon as if they are not gunna win the qualifiers u may as well invite them. just dont invite them it will be much close. who wants to cheer on koreans? i personaly want to cheer for westerners im not racisit. i just think gsl is great the koreans can vs other koreans and its even and intresting. and if foreingers wanna waste their time going to korea and trying to compete in gsl let them go ill cheer for them. but this is just annoying must be just me Yeah and some of us actually want to see good games. so your saying games with foreigners vs foreigners are boring? its more entertaining to watch koreans stomp foreigners then vs each other? ok
I think a game with two great players playing is better than a game with two good players playing, or a good and a great player playing.
And as a detail, there are more "great" koreans than there are "great" foreigners, so logically thats why Koreans usually produce better games. Also, your arguement is ridiculous. If we invited only foreigners, than we would just have a lot of good foreigns stomping on mediocre foreigners, how is that any better? (Hint, it's not)
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