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Leifish
Profile Joined July 2011
851 Posts
March 09 2012 17:36 GMT
#2581
I'm really hoping Puma wins this so that he becomes a definite shoe-in for the Code S slot.

The guy fucking deserves it.
GodOfWar
Profile Joined December 2011
870 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 17:42:15
March 09 2012 17:38 GMT
#2582
On March 10 2012 02:26 Destructicon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 02:07 GodOfWar wrote:
On March 10 2012 02:03 Femari wrote:
On March 10 2012 02:01 GodOfWar wrote:
On March 10 2012 01:58 Femari wrote:
On March 10 2012 01:54 GodOfWar wrote:
PuMa shocks, when he is not supposed to win, at the same time MMA blows, when hes the huge favorite with like 90%+ votes.

Bottom line, MMA is the best TvZ, but not more.

He lost to aLive, PuMa and most of the times Polt, means his TvT is just Top 5, while against Protoss he still has a lot of work to do.

Not the Bonjwa people make him, but certainly a great player nonetheless.

Sick during aLive series. Poor choices vs PuMa. Last time he played Polt was ages ago and that doesn't speak much to how he plays now. Still top 3 TvT at worst tbh.

And no one is making him out to be a bonjwa, just the second best player in the world at minimum.

Oh and his TvP is still 61%. Just saying.


yea, bring out more excuses fanboy, aLive would probably, trash him 3-0 if he didnt wear that mask, but he gave him some mercy because he was in such an horrible unplayable condition ))

I'll wait for a proper response. If name calling is all that you can give me then I accept your concession.


nothing to discuss, aLive is the best TvT Mech player in the world, and Polt the best TvT Bio player in the world.


Oh man, the level of bias and ignorance in this post is so big you could almost cut it with a knife.

So, Alive had one good GSL run and he automatically becomes the best mech player? MVP won 3 GSLs, Blizzcon and an MLG and dominated for far longer, Alive had one good run and he didn't even win GSL. Despite him slumping a bit now you can't just disregard MVP, until Alive show's more consistency you could just say his run now was a fluke.

You can't definitely say Polt's bio is number one either, while I love his play lot, and his performance at ASUS RoG was inspirational, he hasn't really be very consistent. He won the Super Tournament, kind of disappeared then had a strong showing this year with ASUS RoG. Meanwhile MKP made it to the final or 3 GSLs, the first player to do so, despite not winning, made several other good runs, participated at MLG Orlando and Providence, also going deep, won MLG Winter Arena and took forth at HSC4.
You could make a case for them being close, but its definitely not as one sided as you make it look.

I could even argue for MMA being better then Alive based on past performances since MMA won a GSL, an MLG, Blizzcup, and had several good runs, including a top 2 finish at an MLG and a top 2 finish at the GSL Super Tournament.

Your post was made on the back of some recent performances and disregards almost everything else like past results. It holds no substance to back it up.

If you hate on MMA I honestly can't understand why since he is one of the most likable and talented players out there and he has one of the best play styles possible.
If you want to cheer for Alive and Polt then do so without taking a dump on talented and hard working players like Puma and MMA, who have actually had far greater performances then Alive so far.

And if you want to try, at least back up your pathetic statements with some facts, and by giving credit where it's due.


LOL, wall of text, didnt read.

I never claimed the best Terrans IN THE HISTORY, just current shape TvT gosus.

Dont get sentimental if your Idol wasnt among them.

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Mvp Moon Squirtle
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
March 09 2012 17:38 GMT
#2583
On March 10 2012 02:23 firemansam wrote:
every comp dick tell me has their been more then 3 in the past year and half that their hasnt been 2 koreans fighting it out?


Winter Assembly, IPL3, ESWC, IEM Kiev, IEM Guangzhou, MLG Global Invitational, MLG Providence, MLG Orlando, DreamHack Valencia all had at least one Foreigner in the Final. I believe that makes 9 major Tournaments in the last 8 months.
Eschaton
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
March 09 2012 17:40 GMT
#2584
Puma DROPPING BOMBS. Sick stuff.
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
March 09 2012 17:41 GMT
#2585
I really wish they'd change it to BO7 finals. It just feels so much more dramatic than a BO5.
supsun
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom343 Posts
March 09 2012 17:42 GMT
#2586
On March 10 2012 01:58 TheBanana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 01:48 firemansam wrote:
Puma has done what in gsl vs other koreans?


Why does the name of the tournament matter?
He has a great record against top Koreans in big tournaments.
Has he even played in the actual tournament GSL apart from qualifiers?
Why count his skill based on non-existant matches?


Because GSL had preparation time, something we don't know I'd PuMa is good at. That said, he should've been invited to the Blizzard Cup for winning NASL2 instead of Polt. It wouldn't tested him in the "learn the shit out of your opponent" play style.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
March 09 2012 17:42 GMT
#2587
GOGOGOGO PUUUMMAAA!! The fact that he's not in Code A at least is an anomaly, the man's a beast. It's also a really iconic finals, third time they've played now. Puma's had the edge previously, I hope he retains it now.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
March 09 2012 17:45 GMT
#2588
On March 10 2012 02:42 supsun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 01:58 TheBanana wrote:
On March 10 2012 01:48 firemansam wrote:
Puma has done what in gsl vs other koreans?


Why does the name of the tournament matter?
He has a great record against top Koreans in big tournaments.
Has he even played in the actual tournament GSL apart from qualifiers?
Why count his skill based on non-existant matches?


Because GSL had preparation time, something we don't know I'd PuMa is good at. That said, he should've been invited to the Blizzard Cup for winning NASL2 instead of Polt. It wouldn't tested him in the "learn the shit out of your opponent" play style.


Polt was invited to the Blizzard Cup the same reason MMA was.

They were consistent and had been doing well in the GSL for the entire year of 2011 and had won various tournaments to prove it.

If Puma beats MC, he probably should get a spot, but who knows. It's definitely between Polt, Puma and Naniwa. If they want the two BEST players, it's Polt and Puma. If they want the viewers, then it's Naniwa and one of Polt/Puma.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
lorkac
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2297 Posts
March 09 2012 17:47 GMT
#2589
Puma once again is out to prove that he's the best foreigner out there.
By the truth we are undone. Life is a dream. Tis waking that kills us. He who robs us of our dreams robs us of our life --Orlando: A Biography
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
March 09 2012 17:48 GMT
#2590
Not sure the GSL will just hand out a Code S seed to Naniwa considering the probe rush incident and also considering he didn't actually win a tournament, he had some good runs, but the results speak, Polt and Puma already did better.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Sp00ly
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1546 Posts
March 09 2012 17:48 GMT
#2591
Anybody know when the reruns start?
cablesc
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1540 Posts
March 09 2012 17:48 GMT
#2592
Whoa Feast gets his wish. He's playing MMA and it's for $5000.
Slayers Forever! Rip. :( - Not the eSports organizer, that's CableStarcraft.
Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
March 09 2012 17:48 GMT
#2593
MC is going to win 3-1. It's TvP and Puma isn't good enough to beat MC anyway, he will win 1 map due to the dynamics of the TvP matchup.
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
March 09 2012 17:51 GMT
#2594
You're forgetting that Puma beat MC in two other finals previously, NASL S1 and IEM Cologne. Puma also has a super strong TvP, up there along with MKP and Polt. Expect it to be much, much closer.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
alistarnl
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands144 Posts
March 09 2012 17:54 GMT
#2595
On March 10 2012 02:48 Recognizable wrote:
MC is going to win 3-1. It's TvP and Puma isn't good enough to beat MC anyway, he will win 1 map due to the dynamics of the TvP matchup.


Puma already won two big finals against MC
firemansam
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia29 Posts
March 09 2012 17:54 GMT
#2596
why dose the name of the comp matter? umm in gsl puma has to face koreans in every round and when put to that test he has done nothing. lets face it EG are shit enuff said
gfy
mathsucks
Profile Joined January 2011
194 Posts
March 09 2012 17:55 GMT
#2597
On March 10 2012 02:48 Sp00ly wrote:
Anybody know when the reruns start?


They "started" at 9:30a PST afaik...just seems they have been repeating the extended "intro" as well for the past few days.
"Perception is strong and sight weak. In strategy, it is important to see distant things as if they were close and to take a distanced view of close things" -Unknown || www.twitch.tv/scmathsux
supsun
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom343 Posts
March 09 2012 17:58 GMT
#2598
On March 10 2012 02:45 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 02:42 supsun wrote:
On March 10 2012 01:58 TheBanana wrote:
On March 10 2012 01:48 firemansam wrote:
Puma has done what in gsl vs other koreans?


Why does the name of the tournament matter?
He has a great record against top Koreans in big tournaments.
Has he even played in the actual tournament GSL apart from qualifiers?
Why count his skill based on non-existant matches?


Because GSL had preparation time, something we don't know I'd PuMa is good at. That said, he should've been invited to the Blizzard Cup for winning NASL2 instead of Polt. It wouldn't tested him in the "learn the shit out of your opponent" play style.


Polt was invited to the Blizzard Cup the same reason MMA was.

They were consistent and had been doing well in the GSL for the entire year of 2011 and had won various tournaments to prove it.

If Puma beats MC, he probably should get a spot, but who knows. It's definitely between Polt, Puma and Naniwa. If they want the two BEST players, it's Polt and Puma. If they want the viewers, then it's Naniwa and one of Polt/Puma.


I think if GOM wants mass viewership, Stephano would be a batter choice over Naniwa. Plus Stephano won more than Naniwa.
dsousa
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1363 Posts
March 09 2012 17:59 GMT
#2599
Wow.... Puma over MMA.

What amazes me most though, is how in the hell does LoL have 120k viewers? Kinda sad that SC2 is getting crushed in viewers like that. I had no idea LoL was so popular to watch.

Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 18:03:57
March 09 2012 18:02 GMT
#2600
On March 10 2012 02:51 Destructicon wrote:
You're forgetting that Puma beat MC in two other finals previously, NASL S1 and IEM Cologne. Puma also has a super strong TvP, up there along with MKP and Polt. Expect it to be much, much closer.


Judging off his performance against JYP it might not get there. Both of them got supply blocked badly so many times it was mindboggling, if Puma does it again he might just get ran over before it comes down to fully developed tech 200/200 army clashes. Really don't know what was going on there but it seems to be his Achille's Heel and seems to have cost him a lot of games he could have otherwise taken in a dominating fashion.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
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