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arQ
Profile Joined October 2010
1033 Posts
March 09 2012 16:59 GMT
#2541
On March 10 2012 01:54 GodOfWar wrote:
PuMa shocks, when he is not supposed to win, at the same time MMA blows, when hes the huge favorite with like 90%+ votes.

Bottom line, MMA is the best TvZ, but not more.

He lost to aLive, PuMa and most of the times Polt, means his TvT is just Top 5, while against Protoss he still has a lot of work to do.

Not the Bonjwa people make him, but certainly a great player nonetheless.


Why anyone would say that MMA is a bonjwa is beyond me.
"The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human ambition." -Carl Sagan || Flash || Mvp || Naniwa ||
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 17:00:48
March 09 2012 17:00 GMT
#2542
On March 10 2012 01:57 firemansam wrote:
its not my fault the koreans are far more skilled? im racist because of this? ok mate. im not against koreans i just want them to not come stomp face in every comp its just predictable. and LOL oh wow they play for foreign teams does that change the fact that they live and train in korea? and are clearly way more skilled then all the foreingers? good point...


No, you're racist because you want to separate a race of people from other races of people due to personal bias. If the Koreans didn't come then chances are you would be seeing the same couple foreigners winning everything because there are top foreigners that are generally a level above the rest...Stephano, Huk, Naniwa, perhaps Thorzain, etc. How exciting.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
GodOfWar
Profile Joined December 2011
870 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 17:02:07
March 09 2012 17:01 GMT
#2543
On March 10 2012 01:58 Femari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 01:54 GodOfWar wrote:
PuMa shocks, when he is not supposed to win, at the same time MMA blows, when hes the huge favorite with like 90%+ votes.

Bottom line, MMA is the best TvZ, but not more.

He lost to aLive, PuMa and most of the times Polt, means his TvT is just Top 5, while against Protoss he still has a lot of work to do.

Not the Bonjwa people make him, but certainly a great player nonetheless.

Sick during aLive series. Poor choices vs PuMa. Last time he played Polt was ages ago and that doesn't speak much to how he plays now. Still top 3 TvT at worst tbh.

And no one is making him out to be a bonjwa, just the second best player in the world at minimum.

Oh and his TvP is still 61%. Just saying.


yea, bring out more excuses fanboy, aLive would probably, trash him 3-0 if he didnt wear that mask, but he gave him some mercy because he was in such an horrible unplayable condition ))
Mvp Moon Squirtle
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
March 09 2012 17:03 GMT
#2544
On March 10 2012 02:01 GodOfWar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 01:58 Femari wrote:
On March 10 2012 01:54 GodOfWar wrote:
PuMa shocks, when he is not supposed to win, at the same time MMA blows, when hes the huge favorite with like 90%+ votes.

Bottom line, MMA is the best TvZ, but not more.

He lost to aLive, PuMa and most of the times Polt, means his TvT is just Top 5, while against Protoss he still has a lot of work to do.

Not the Bonjwa people make him, but certainly a great player nonetheless.

Sick during aLive series. Poor choices vs PuMa. Last time he played Polt was ages ago and that doesn't speak much to how he plays now. Still top 3 TvT at worst tbh.

And no one is making him out to be a bonjwa, just the second best player in the world at minimum.

Oh and his TvP is still 61%. Just saying.


yea, bring out more excuses fanboy, aLive would probably, trash him 3-0 if he didnt wear that mask, but he gave him some mercy because he was in such an horrible unplayable condition ))

I'll wait for a proper response. If name calling is all that you can give me then I accept your concession.
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
firemansam
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia29 Posts
March 09 2012 17:03 GMT
#2545
imagine.... nothing would change vthree you would have 2 koreans playing in the finals. 1 foreigner in the round of 8 and that is only because he had a by and was in a group with the least koreans. meh i guess im the only 1 with this opinion ill just cry to myself
gfy
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
March 09 2012 17:04 GMT
#2546
Obviously, Feast lost his match on purpose to face MMA.
firemansam
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia29 Posts
March 09 2012 17:07 GMT
#2547
heavenly.. see them names u mentioned they've all trained in korea well im not sure about stephano as im not a fan but huk naniwa have trained for ages in korea and honestly i dont believe they would dominate the comps. but yeah im racist ill admit it if that makes u happy.
gfy
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
March 09 2012 17:07 GMT
#2548
Feast made ro 4 and he got a bye to ro8 because he WON his group... And I think foreigner only tournaments are even more predictable since Stephano will probably win half of them...
GodOfWar
Profile Joined December 2011
870 Posts
March 09 2012 17:07 GMT
#2549
On March 10 2012 02:03 Femari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 02:01 GodOfWar wrote:
On March 10 2012 01:58 Femari wrote:
On March 10 2012 01:54 GodOfWar wrote:
PuMa shocks, when he is not supposed to win, at the same time MMA blows, when hes the huge favorite with like 90%+ votes.

Bottom line, MMA is the best TvZ, but not more.

He lost to aLive, PuMa and most of the times Polt, means his TvT is just Top 5, while against Protoss he still has a lot of work to do.

Not the Bonjwa people make him, but certainly a great player nonetheless.

Sick during aLive series. Poor choices vs PuMa. Last time he played Polt was ages ago and that doesn't speak much to how he plays now. Still top 3 TvT at worst tbh.

And no one is making him out to be a bonjwa, just the second best player in the world at minimum.

Oh and his TvP is still 61%. Just saying.


yea, bring out more excuses fanboy, aLive would probably, trash him 3-0 if he didnt wear that mask, but he gave him some mercy because he was in such an horrible unplayable condition ))

I'll wait for a proper response. If name calling is all that you can give me then I accept your concession.


nothing to discuss, aLive is the best TvT Mech player in the world, and Polt the best TvT Bio player in the world.
Mvp Moon Squirtle
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 17:10:45
March 09 2012 17:09 GMT
#2550
On March 10 2012 02:07 firemansam wrote:
heavenly.. see them names u mentioned they've all trained in korea well im not sure about stephano as im not a fan but huk naniwa have trained for ages in korea and honestly i dont believe they would dominate the comps. but yeah im racist ill admit it if that makes u happy.


I'm just going to assume you're a troll, in which case good one.

MC v Puma most likely going to be a better finals than anything foreigners could have brought out. Last time I checked you don't see people's nationalities when they play Starcraft, you just see them controlling their units.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
hackertitan
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore105 Posts
March 09 2012 17:09 GMT
#2551
Feast and MMA will be one hell of a match :D
Working hard to be a game designer !!!!!
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
March 09 2012 17:10 GMT
#2552
On March 10 2012 02:07 vthree wrote:
Feast made ro 4 and he got a bye to ro8 because he WON his group... And I think foreigner only tournaments are even more predictable since Stephano will probably win half of them...

yup. No koreans would just mean that Stephano wins everything instead.
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
March 09 2012 17:10 GMT
#2553
haizz, MC obviously has more chance against MMA than Puma. MC just can't beat Puma. Never.
firemansam
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia29 Posts
March 09 2012 17:11 GMT
#2554
im not a troll im seriousely over it no point watching i know what the result will be but meh your all still in love with watching it so fuck it no point complaining any more
gfy
firemansam
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia29 Posts
March 09 2012 17:12 GMT
#2555
really how many comps has stephano been the top foreinger placed?
gfy
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
March 09 2012 17:13 GMT
#2556
On March 10 2012 02:07 GodOfWar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 02:03 Femari wrote:
On March 10 2012 02:01 GodOfWar wrote:
On March 10 2012 01:58 Femari wrote:
On March 10 2012 01:54 GodOfWar wrote:
PuMa shocks, when he is not supposed to win, at the same time MMA blows, when hes the huge favorite with like 90%+ votes.

Bottom line, MMA is the best TvZ, but not more.

He lost to aLive, PuMa and most of the times Polt, means his TvT is just Top 5, while against Protoss he still has a lot of work to do.

Not the Bonjwa people make him, but certainly a great player nonetheless.

Sick during aLive series. Poor choices vs PuMa. Last time he played Polt was ages ago and that doesn't speak much to how he plays now. Still top 3 TvT at worst tbh.

And no one is making him out to be a bonjwa, just the second best player in the world at minimum.

Oh and his TvP is still 61%. Just saying.


yea, bring out more excuses fanboy, aLive would probably, trash him 3-0 if he didnt wear that mask, but he gave him some mercy because he was in such an horrible unplayable condition ))

I'll wait for a proper response. If name calling is all that you can give me then I accept your concession.


nothing to discuss, aLive is the best TvT Mech player in the world, and Polt the best TvT Bio player in the world.

I'd like to hear your basis for both of those.
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
zerker2strong
Profile Joined May 2011
775 Posts
March 09 2012 17:14 GMT
#2557
On March 10 2012 01:59 arQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 01:54 GodOfWar wrote:
PuMa shocks, when he is not supposed to win, at the same time MMA blows, when hes the huge favorite with like 90%+ votes.

Bottom line, MMA is the best TvZ, but not more.

He lost to aLive, PuMa and most of the times Polt, means his TvT is just Top 5, while against Protoss he still has a lot of work to do.

Not the Bonjwa people make him, but certainly a great player nonetheless.


Why anyone would say that MMA is a bonjwa is beyond me.


tvz bonjwa
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 17:14:52
March 09 2012 17:14 GMT
#2558
On March 10 2012 02:11 firemansam wrote:
im not a troll im seriousely over it no point watching i know what the result will be but meh your all still in love with watching it so fuck it no point complaining any more


What's the result going to be in that case? Since Puma and MC are pretty evenly matched, I'm curious what divine clairvoyance you have, Fireman Sam. I trust you so I might put some money on it.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 17:17:48
March 09 2012 17:16 GMT
#2559
On March 10 2012 02:10 tuho12345 wrote:
haizz, MC obviously has more chance against MMA than Puma. MC just can't beat Puma. Never.

mc won at mlg orlando against puma.
On March 10 2012 02:13 Femari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 02:07 GodOfWar wrote:
On March 10 2012 02:03 Femari wrote:
On March 10 2012 02:01 GodOfWar wrote:
On March 10 2012 01:58 Femari wrote:
On March 10 2012 01:54 GodOfWar wrote:
PuMa shocks, when he is not supposed to win, at the same time MMA blows, when hes the huge favorite with like 90%+ votes.

Bottom line, MMA is the best TvZ, but not more.

He lost to aLive, PuMa and most of the times Polt, means his TvT is just Top 5, while against Protoss he still has a lot of work to do.

Not the Bonjwa people make him, but certainly a great player nonetheless.

Sick during aLive series. Poor choices vs PuMa. Last time he played Polt was ages ago and that doesn't speak much to how he plays now. Still top 3 TvT at worst tbh.

And no one is making him out to be a bonjwa, just the second best player in the world at minimum.

Oh and his TvP is still 61%. Just saying.


yea, bring out more excuses fanboy, aLive would probably, trash him 3-0 if he didnt wear that mask, but he gave him some mercy because he was in such an horrible unplayable condition ))

I'll wait for a proper response. If name calling is all that you can give me then I accept your concession.


nothing to discuss, aLive is the best TvT Mech player in the world, and Polt the best TvT Bio player in the world.

I'd like to hear your basis for both of those.


alvie best mech: last GSL
polt best bio: since forever
TL+ Member
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 17:17:40
March 09 2012 17:17 GMT
#2560
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