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On March 10 2012 01:05 Seraphone wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 01:04 betaV1.25 wrote:On March 10 2012 00:51 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On March 10 2012 00:47 Kazang wrote:Vote Feast for sick nerd baller! Really? MC is much more of a nerdballer than Feast. In the grandfinals, cannon rushing, best control and execution, etc. Do you honestly think creating 2 min games with map abuse should be rewarded? It takes pretty big fucking balls to cannon rush with so much on the line. Foreigners could learn a lot from the value of cheese.
It doesn't take balls to do this on Daybreak. MC knew he could exploit the map and win on Daybreak he said it in the interview.
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On March 10 2012 00:57 Zealot Orgy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 00:52 Bagration wrote:On March 10 2012 00:39 Femari wrote:On March 10 2012 00:37 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 10 2012 00:34 Bagration wrote: I just realized how well Puma has done in these foreign tournaments (2nd Dreamhack, 1st NASL, 3rd Assembly, 1st or 2nd at IEM WC). He really deserves a Code S seed in my opinion. hey dont sell Puma short, 1st in both seasons of NASL and 1st in IEM Cologne. But yeah, he has posted some amazing results, pretty remarkable actually. I would love to see him get the seed. I think it's more likely that Polt and Stephano get it to be honest. I've been thinking about it, and especially after today, I think Puma deserves that seed more than Polt. He's won both seasons of NASL, an IEM and is in the finals of the WC, got second at Dreamhack and 3rd at Assembly. It doesn't matter, the seed is given for good results between one season of codeS and another. What does Puma's both NASL wins of months and months ago have to do with this season's codeS? Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 00:52 Bagration wrote:On March 10 2012 00:39 Femari wrote:On March 10 2012 00:37 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 10 2012 00:34 Bagration wrote: I just realized how well Puma has done in these foreign tournaments (2nd Dreamhack, 1st NASL, 3rd Assembly, 1st or 2nd at IEM WC). He really deserves a Code S seed in my opinion. hey dont sell Puma short, 1st in both seasons of NASL and 1st in IEM Cologne. But yeah, he has posted some amazing results, pretty remarkable actually. I would love to see him get the seed. I think it's more likely that Polt and Stephano get it to be honest. Puma is a guy who unfortunately has never participated in the GSL yet Unfortunately? He got kicked out of the codeA qualifier 5 times in a row. That's hardly being "unfortunate"...
5 times in a row? Can you please tell me which GSL's he tried to qualify for?
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On March 10 2012 01:05 FlyingDike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 00:54 johnny123 wrote:On March 10 2012 00:44 Sakray wrote: Yeah, I also remember the NASL S1 final, where Puma won a game that he didn't deserved to, and some other final against MC where it was a 1/1/1 fest. Iirc most of Puma's matches against MC were just 1/1/1, so, I hope this time he's gonna play standard (but I want MC to win) this is a joke, i watched them all and this is not true -NASL season 1 puma beat MC with absolutely no 1/1/1, he beat him all games in macro fashion using marines/marauders/medicvacs and ghosts. His game style was marine heavy, Artosis always talks about this when hes talking about puma vs toss and how puma is really reliant on ghosts emp because hes so marine heavy. -The next time Puma and MC meet was in final of IEM right after season 1 of nasl. Puma beat MC in rather dominating fashion. Only the very last game on Xel Naga caverns did puma do 1/1/1 to win the final game of the tournament, All the other games did not involve any 1/1/1. They have meet twice, And in about 8 or 9 games they played puma has 1/1/1 against MC 1 single game. Yet people like you just come here saying all he can do is 1/1/1 and sucks. What a joke. No, Puma actually used 1/1/1 two out of the three games against MC at the last IEM finals. Get your fact straight. it was more like 1.5. The one game it was a 1/1/1, but it kinda wasn't. I can't remember it exactly, but it wasnt a straight up 1/1/1, something was different.
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On March 10 2012 01:05 Seraphone wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 01:04 betaV1.25 wrote:On March 10 2012 00:51 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On March 10 2012 00:47 Kazang wrote:Vote Feast for sick nerd baller! Really? MC is much more of a nerdballer than Feast. In the grandfinals, cannon rushing, best control and execution, etc. Do you honestly think creating 2 min games with map abuse should be rewarded? It takes pretty big fucking balls to cannon rush with so much on the line. Foreigners could learn a lot from the value of cheese. I completly dissagree that it takes big fucking balls. He was one game up and obv. knew how broken that mineral line was when doing such a rush (said so in the interview). Furthermore, i dont skip work to watch 2min games that are abusive. As i said a win is a win, but i hate such games and i think him recieving a point in the bo5 is enough, he shoudnt be rewarded or praised for it in any other way.
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On March 10 2012 01:07 Sein wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 00:57 Zealot Orgy wrote:On March 10 2012 00:52 Bagration wrote:On March 10 2012 00:39 Femari wrote:On March 10 2012 00:37 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 10 2012 00:34 Bagration wrote: I just realized how well Puma has done in these foreign tournaments (2nd Dreamhack, 1st NASL, 3rd Assembly, 1st or 2nd at IEM WC). He really deserves a Code S seed in my opinion. hey dont sell Puma short, 1st in both seasons of NASL and 1st in IEM Cologne. But yeah, he has posted some amazing results, pretty remarkable actually. I would love to see him get the seed. I think it's more likely that Polt and Stephano get it to be honest. I've been thinking about it, and especially after today, I think Puma deserves that seed more than Polt. He's won both seasons of NASL, an IEM and is in the finals of the WC, got second at Dreamhack and 3rd at Assembly. It doesn't matter, the seed is given for good results between one season of codeS and another. What does Puma's both NASL wins of months and months ago have to do with this season's codeS? On March 10 2012 00:52 Bagration wrote:On March 10 2012 00:39 Femari wrote:On March 10 2012 00:37 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 10 2012 00:34 Bagration wrote: I just realized how well Puma has done in these foreign tournaments (2nd Dreamhack, 1st NASL, 3rd Assembly, 1st or 2nd at IEM WC). He really deserves a Code S seed in my opinion. hey dont sell Puma short, 1st in both seasons of NASL and 1st in IEM Cologne. But yeah, he has posted some amazing results, pretty remarkable actually. I would love to see him get the seed. I think it's more likely that Polt and Stephano get it to be honest. Puma is a guy who unfortunately has never participated in the GSL yet Unfortunately? He got kicked out of the codeA qualifier 5 times in a row. That's hardly being "unfortunate"... 5 times in a row? Can you please tell me which GSL's he tried to qualify for? I am 95% sure he has only tried twice since joining EG and I know he did try at least once with TSL. He has missed the qualifiers since joining EG due to foreign tournaments. He's gonna miss the ones for this season actually too.
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On March 10 2012 01:07 FlyingDike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 00:58 Seraphone wrote:On March 10 2012 00:53 Zealot Orgy wrote:On March 10 2012 00:47 Bagration wrote:On March 10 2012 00:44 Sakray wrote: Yeah, I also remember the NASL S1 final, where Puma won a game that he didn't deserved to, and some other final against MC where it was a 1/1/1 fest. Iirc most of Puma's matches against MC were just 1/1/1, so, I hope this time he's gonna play standard (but I want MC to win) You might be thinking about IEM Cologne. NASL S1 finals were some of the most impressive games of TvP I had seen. Puma and MC both played amazingly. Yes, but it was still the GOMTvT era, where all you needed to do to get seeded in next season's codeS was to go 1W-2L in the RO32, which lead to tons of crappy players (asd, Virus, Ensare was the trinity of disgrace in particular) to stay in codeS for ages just by cheesing P and Z players, which lead to the developement of various different builds ( (1/1/1, 2port banshee, bitbybit) very hard to stop if you aren't in a mirror. Now that the 1/1/1 era is over he probably won't be able to lay hands on MC. So many ridiculous things in one post. Virus and Asd are both good and not particularly cheesy player. Virus almost beat Nestea when Nestea was at his peak in a macro series. You are absolutely clueless and have been shitting on Puma all week with your inane and barely coherant (how can English be your first language?) ramblings. Meanwhile Puma is busy not giving the slightest crap what you think and beating everyone he's played, going 5-0 in the hardest group in the tournament and taking out MMA, the best Terran in the world, in a best of five. Now he's helped himself to $15,000 and come tomorrow afternoon it might be more. You do not win $119,000 from Starcraft 2 if you're a bad player. Puma is overrated.
i dont really like the guy. but he did just beat MMA
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On March 10 2012 00:54 johnny123 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2012 00:44 Sakray wrote: Yeah, I also remember the NASL S1 final, where Puma won a game that he didn't deserved to, and some other final against MC where it was a 1/1/1 fest. Iirc most of Puma's matches against MC were just 1/1/1, so, I hope this time he's gonna play standard (but I want MC to win) this is a joke, i watched them all and this is not true -NASL season 1 puma beat MC with absolutely no 1/1/1, he beat him all games in macro fashion using marines/marauders/medicvacs and ghosts. His game style was marine heavy, Artosis always talks about this when hes talking about puma vs toss and how puma is really reliant on ghosts emp because hes so marine heavy. -The next time Puma and MC meet was in final of IEM right after season 1 of nasl. Puma beat MC in rather dominating fashion. Only the very last game on Xel Naga caverns did puma do 1/1/1 to win the final game of the tournament, All the other games did not involve any 1/1/1. They have meet twice, And in about 8 or 9 games they played puma has 1/1/1 against MC 1 single game. Yet people like you just come here saying all he can do is 1/1/1 and sucks. What a joke.
Most of you seem to forget, in their last Match MC has beaten PuMa in MLG Orlando... 2-1 which led eventually to the overall 2nd place. You could see that this win was really important to MC since he was celebrating more than he did as he received his trophy... I think nevertheless this is a really close call and definitely some worthy Grand Finals. Going with MC 3-2 for him. MC Fighting!
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On March 10 2012 01:05 phiRa wrote: It seems like PuMa is held to a much higher standard or a lot of people don't like him... just weeks ago when he didn't win ASUS ROG but still managed to get third, the repeated claims of PuMa getting worse for joining EG sprung up again. I pretty much see it everytime he doesn't get first or second in a tournament...
He also beat Hero in dreamhack finals without using 1/1/1. It's time to drop his 1/1/1 only reputation. PuMa has shown he is very versatile and has brilliant mechanics and tactical play...
oops correction, I mean NASL2 vs Hero
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Huge congratz to Feast for is awesome tournament run!! So good to see new blood break in the ranks of the "established" players. Well done.
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too bad its notbo7 for the finals, kinda approprate for a 20k moneyjump but its going to be good nevertheless
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Can anyone tell me where I can get that sick nerd baller shirt?
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This is the third time Mc Puma final and it is also the first time those two meet and the map pool does not heavily farvor terran. Let us find out what happen tomorrow. Hope for good games.
Personally I kind of wish DRG was in this tournamet. After watching him crushing HEro, it seems Mc has become the last hope for toss to stop that DRG.
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On March 10 2012 01:19 Legion710 wrote: Can anyone tell me where I can get that sick nerd baller shirt?
Only way is to qualify for an IEM, and play your ass off. There's only one printed per event, and they're all a little bit different, making each one unique.
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honestly what a joke every competition you invite Koreans to is just a free win for them not even entertaining to watch its obvious 2 koreans will fight out the finals just got to wait and see which 2.. im over it
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Interesting. If MC wins, he will take back his #1 earnings title from MVP. If Puma wins, he will move to 4th behind the big three MVP, MC and Nestea. And 5th behind MMA if he loses just ahead of Polt and MKP.
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Holy shit is MMA losing his touch? He (along with Mvp) is letting people with less skill beat him... oh wait, PuMa lives with him and knows his play style. PuMa would have lost if they lived seperately. Oh well, hopefully the finals between Min-chul and PuMa will be as epic as the first NASL with the long ass drawn out games. Hopefully it won't be PuMa 1-1-1 MC or MC 2 base all in PuMa type shit. Maybe one of each (MC 2 base once and PuMa 1-1-1 once) to keep things interesting. Excited to see what PuMa and MC have in store for each other.
On March 10 2012 01:33 vthree wrote: Interesting. If MC wins, he will take back his #1 earnings title from MVP. If Puma wins, he will move to 4th behind the big three MVP, MC and Nestea. And 5th behind MMA if he loses just ahead of Polt and MKP.
When did MC pass NesTea? And where do you get these statistics?
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On March 10 2012 01:33 firemansam wrote: honestly what a joke every competition you invite Koreans to is just a free win for them not even entertaining to watch its obvious 2 koreans will fight out the finals just got to wait and see which 2.. im over it
No one was invited to this event. Everybody qualified. >.<
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Well, it IS the world championship. It would be a farce if they did not invite Koreans.
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WOW Puma was the one who took down MMA? He's one of the last people I would've thought to be the one to pull it off. Here's to hoping MC vs Puma part 3 is an epic one, but if Puma only barely beat JYP and no 1-1-1 to fall back on I don't think he stands a chance against MC this time around.
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