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WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
March 09 2012 15:49 GMT
#2461
MMA lost?? What am I reading.
Rassy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2308 Posts
March 09 2012 15:49 GMT
#2462
Mc should get snb award, hes the biggest snb by far
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
March 09 2012 15:50 GMT
#2463
You can't downplay Puma's victory at NASL, he played straight up all games and came out on top. MC lost at Cologne more than Puma won it, he was so hungry for revenge you could see it in his play, he was rushed, sloppy and he tilted heavily. There is no doubt in my mind that Puma was the decisive factor that sent MC into his slump, but that shouldn't take away from how amazing Puma's victory was.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Zealot Orgy
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom537 Posts
March 09 2012 15:50 GMT
#2464
On March 10 2012 00:39 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 00:39 Femari wrote:
On March 10 2012 00:37 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 10 2012 00:34 Bagration wrote:
I just realized how well Puma has done in these foreign tournaments (2nd Dreamhack, 1st NASL, 3rd Assembly, 1st or 2nd at IEM WC). He really deserves a Code S seed in my opinion.

hey dont sell Puma short, 1st in both seasons of NASL and 1st in IEM Cologne. But yeah, he has posted some amazing results, pretty remarkable actually. I would love to see him get the seed.

I think it's more likely that Polt and Stephano get it to be honest.

I dont think Stephano wants to go back to Korea.


He will go back to Korea but not to play the GSL.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45437 Posts
March 09 2012 15:51 GMT
#2465
On March 10 2012 00:47 Kazang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 00:45 morbvs wrote:
Sick Nerd Baller Voting is up!


Vote Feast for sick nerd baller!


Really?

MC is much more of a nerdballer than Feast. In the grandfinals, cannon rushing, best control and execution, etc.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
altered
Profile Joined March 2008
Switzerland646 Posts
March 09 2012 15:51 GMT
#2466
Whats all the hate on puma because he did 111 a couple times? I mean MC isnt a saint either when it comes to abusive/cheesy strategys. And this is part of the game its not like he cheated.
Does Flash dream of electric Romeo?
ThatGuy89
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1968 Posts
March 09 2012 15:51 GMT
#2467
wow surprised JYP took it to game 5 against puma, surprised that Puma took out MMA
so glad that MC put feast in his place. All these people saying feast best PvP can gtfo now thanks

gonna be an awesome final, gogo puma gogo MC
BlackGosu
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1046 Posts
March 09 2012 15:52 GMT
#2468
people who complain about cheese need to pursue a different game. anything goes in sc2
Jar Jar Binks
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
March 09 2012 15:52 GMT
#2469
On March 10 2012 00:47 Kazang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 00:45 morbvs wrote:
Sick Nerd Baller Voting is up!


Vote Feast for sick nerd baller!


Yeah, I would vote for MC, but he already got the award earlier in some IEM, it'd be boring if he took it every time he attends, so I have to go with Feast.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 15:53:40
March 09 2012 15:52 GMT
#2470
On March 10 2012 00:39 Femari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 00:37 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 10 2012 00:34 Bagration wrote:
I just realized how well Puma has done in these foreign tournaments (2nd Dreamhack, 1st NASL, 3rd Assembly, 1st or 2nd at IEM WC). He really deserves a Code S seed in my opinion.

hey dont sell Puma short, 1st in both seasons of NASL and 1st in IEM Cologne. But yeah, he has posted some amazing results, pretty remarkable actually. I would love to see him get the seed.

I think it's more likely that Polt and Stephano get it to be honest.


I've been thinking about it, and especially after today, I think Puma deserves that seed more than Polt. He's won both seasons of NASL, an IEM and is in the finals of the WC, got second at Dreamhack and 3rd at Assembly. His performance is just as good as Polt, but he has a longer record of high performance, and he has beaten better players in these foreign tournaments (just beating MMA, beating DRG at Dreamhack, MC twice, etc). Furthermore, Puma is a guy who unfortunately has never participated in the GSL yet, whereas Polt has just fallen out. I think Puma should be ahead of Polt, because of these factors, and because I feel that he was passed over last season as well.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Zealot Orgy
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom537 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 15:54:50
March 09 2012 15:53 GMT
#2471
On March 10 2012 00:47 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 00:44 Sakray wrote:
Yeah, I also remember the NASL S1 final, where Puma won a game that he didn't deserved to, and some other final against MC where it was a 1/1/1 fest. Iirc most of Puma's matches against MC were just 1/1/1, so, I hope this time he's gonna play standard (but I want MC to win)


You might be thinking about IEM Cologne. NASL S1 finals were some of the most impressive games of TvP I had seen. Puma and MC both played amazingly.


Yes, but it was still the GOMTvT era, where all you needed to do to get seeded in next season's codeS was to go 1W-2L in the RO32, which lead to tons of crappy players (asd, Virus, Ensare was the trinity of disgrace in particular) to stay in codeS for ages just by cheesing P and Z players, which lead to the developement of various different builds ( (1/1/1, 2port banshee, bitbybit) very hard to stop if you aren't in a mirror.


Now that the 1/1/1 era is over he probably won't be able to lay hands on MC.
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
March 09 2012 15:53 GMT
#2472
Actually, people are too offended by cheese in general. Cheesing is a legitimate way to win the game, it can give you an easy win, tilt your opponent of balance or at least keep him honest and keep him guessing.

If you lose to cheese it's your own damn fault, learn to scout or interpret what you scouted better, because this isn't going a way, its part of the game.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
March 09 2012 15:54 GMT
#2473
On March 10 2012 00:51 altered wrote:
Whats all the hate on puma because he did 111 a couple times? I mean MC isnt a saint either when it comes to abusive/cheesy strategys. And this is part of the game its not like he cheated.

haha so true. Is there a player who all ins more than MC? And its not bad either. You need to have diverse play. MVP will do whatever he wants against you and has put up the most dominating streak of sc2 to date.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
johnny123
Profile Joined February 2012
521 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 15:56:18
March 09 2012 15:54 GMT
#2474
On March 10 2012 00:44 Sakray wrote:
Yeah, I also remember the NASL S1 final, where Puma won a game that he didn't deserved to, and some other final against MC where it was a 1/1/1 fest. Iirc most of Puma's matches against MC were just 1/1/1, so, I hope this time he's gonna play standard (but I want MC to win)


this is a joke, i watched them all and this is not true

-NASL season 1 puma beat MC with absolutely no 1/1/1, he beat him all games in macro fashion using marines/marauders/medicvacs and ghosts. His game style was marine heavy, Artosis always talks about this when hes talking about puma vs toss and how puma is really reliant on ghosts emp because hes so marine heavy.

-The next time Puma and MC meet was in final of IEM right after season 1 of nasl. Puma beat MC in rather dominating fashion. Only the very last game on Xel Naga caverns did puma do 1/1/1 to win the final game of the tournament, All the other games did not involve any 1/1/1.

They have meet twice, And in about 8 or 9 games they played puma has 1/1/1 against MC 1 single game. Yet people like you just come here saying all he can do is 1/1/1 and sucks. What a joke.
Favorite players,Stephano/MVP/Nestea/Gumiho/Life/Jaedong/MMA
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 15:55:37
March 09 2012 15:54 GMT
#2475
On March 10 2012 00:53 Zealot Orgy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 00:47 Bagration wrote:
On March 10 2012 00:44 Sakray wrote:
Yeah, I also remember the NASL S1 final, where Puma won a game that he didn't deserved to, and some other final against MC where it was a 1/1/1 fest. Iirc most of Puma's matches against MC were just 1/1/1, so, I hope this time he's gonna play standard (but I want MC to win)


You might be thinking about IEM Cologne. NASL S1 finals were some of the most impressive games of TvP I had seen. Puma and MC both played amazingly.


Yes, but it was still the GOMTvT era, where all you needed to do get seeded in next season's codeS was to go 1W-2L in the RO32, which lead to tons of crappy players (asd, Virus, Ensare was the trinity of disgrace in particular) to stay in codeS for ages just by cheesing (1/1/1, 2port banshee, bitbybit) P and Z players.


Now that the 1/1/1 era is over he probably won't be able to lay hands on MC.


Ok man, whatever you say We'll find out tomorrow.

There are also a bunch of incorrect statements there: asd was never a longtime Code S player, and bitbybit had long fallen off by that time.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 09 2012 15:55 GMT
#2476
On March 10 2012 00:44 Sakray wrote:
Yeah, I also remember the NASL S1 final, where Puma won a game that he didn't deserved to, and some other final against MC where it was a 1/1/1 fest. Iirc most of Puma's matches against MC were just 1/1/1, so, I hope this time he's gonna play standard (but I want MC to win)

NASL finals were legit. Canceling zealot charge 3 games, great drops. Those were legit macro games.
I had a good night of sleep.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
March 09 2012 15:55 GMT
#2477
On March 10 2012 00:53 Zealot Orgy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 00:47 Bagration wrote:
On March 10 2012 00:44 Sakray wrote:
Yeah, I also remember the NASL S1 final, where Puma won a game that he didn't deserved to, and some other final against MC where it was a 1/1/1 fest. Iirc most of Puma's matches against MC were just 1/1/1, so, I hope this time he's gonna play standard (but I want MC to win)


You might be thinking about IEM Cologne. NASL S1 finals were some of the most impressive games of TvP I had seen. Puma and MC both played amazingly.


Yes, but it was still the GOMTvT era, where all you needed to do to get seeded in next season's codeS was to go 1W-2L in the RO32, which lead to tons of crappy players (asd, Virus, Ensare was the trinity of disgrace in particular) to stay in codeS for ages just by cheesing P and Z players, which lead to the developement of various different builds ( (1/1/1, 2port banshee, bitbybit) very hard to stop if you aren't in a mirror.


Now that the 1/1/1 era is over he probably won't be able to lay hands on MC.

because its not like he has beaten MC in a bo7 without using the 1/1/1... oh wait, he did.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
gullberg
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden1301 Posts
March 09 2012 15:56 GMT
#2478
On March 10 2012 00:53 Zealot Orgy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 00:47 Bagration wrote:
On March 10 2012 00:44 Sakray wrote:
Yeah, I also remember the NASL S1 final, where Puma won a game that he didn't deserved to, and some other final against MC where it was a 1/1/1 fest. Iirc most of Puma's matches against MC were just 1/1/1, so, I hope this time he's gonna play standard (but I want MC to win)


You might be thinking about IEM Cologne. NASL S1 finals were some of the most impressive games of TvP I had seen. Puma and MC both played amazingly.


Yes, but it was still the GOMTvT era, where all you needed to do to get seeded in next season's codeS was to go 1W-2L in the RO32, which lead to tons of crappy players (asd, Virus, Ensare was the trinity of disgrace in particular) to stay in codeS for ages just by cheesing P and Z players, which lead to the developement of various different builds ( (1/1/1, 2port banshee, bitbybit) very hard to stop if you aren't in a mirror.


Now that the 1/1/1 era is over he probably won't be able to lay hands on MC.

Virus/asd have both played damn good games. Virus vs Nestea and asd's first run in code a in particular...
Kazang
Profile Joined August 2010
578 Posts
March 09 2012 15:56 GMT
#2479
On March 10 2012 00:51 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 00:47 Kazang wrote:
On March 10 2012 00:45 morbvs wrote:
Sick Nerd Baller Voting is up!


Vote Feast for sick nerd baller!


Really?

MC is much more of a nerdballer than Feast. In the grandfinals, cannon rushing, best control and execution, etc.


MC already won Sick Nerd Baller in another tournament. He already has permanent sick nerd baller status.

Feast put on a great show and was the only foreigner to really challenge the koreans. He deserves some glory.
LovE-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1963 Posts
March 09 2012 15:56 GMT
#2480
Wow another Puma/MC Finals.

Love it!
LovE.311 (NA) || @LovE_Sc2
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