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RotterdaM
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands684 Posts
March 09 2012 15:56 GMT
#2481
Hope you guys enjoyed today, we all did our best! I'm getting really tired so sorry for being a bit confused from time to time and mumbling/stuttering some ( more than usual ^^ ), however tryed my best and think we had a pretty awesome day of Sc2, cheers to ya'll~
Commentatorwww.instagram.com/RotterdaM08 for pictures of cute puppies.
Zealot Orgy
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom537 Posts
March 09 2012 15:57 GMT
#2482
On March 10 2012 00:52 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 00:39 Femari wrote:
On March 10 2012 00:37 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 10 2012 00:34 Bagration wrote:
I just realized how well Puma has done in these foreign tournaments (2nd Dreamhack, 1st NASL, 3rd Assembly, 1st or 2nd at IEM WC). He really deserves a Code S seed in my opinion.

hey dont sell Puma short, 1st in both seasons of NASL and 1st in IEM Cologne. But yeah, he has posted some amazing results, pretty remarkable actually. I would love to see him get the seed.

I think it's more likely that Polt and Stephano get it to be honest.


I've been thinking about it, and especially after today, I think Puma deserves that seed more than Polt. He's won both seasons of NASL, an IEM and is in the finals of the WC, got second at Dreamhack and 3rd at Assembly.


It doesn't matter, the seed is given for good results between one season of codeS and another.

What does Puma's both NASL wins of months and months ago have to do with this season's codeS?



On March 10 2012 00:52 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 00:39 Femari wrote:
On March 10 2012 00:37 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 10 2012 00:34 Bagration wrote:
I just realized how well Puma has done in these foreign tournaments (2nd Dreamhack, 1st NASL, 3rd Assembly, 1st or 2nd at IEM WC). He really deserves a Code S seed in my opinion.

hey dont sell Puma short, 1st in both seasons of NASL and 1st in IEM Cologne. But yeah, he has posted some amazing results, pretty remarkable actually. I would love to see him get the seed.

I think it's more likely that Polt and Stephano get it to be honest.


Puma is a guy who unfortunately has never participated in the GSL yet


Unfortunately?

He got kicked out of the codeA qualifier 5 times in a row.

That's hardly being "unfortunate"...
Vekalisk
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Australia137 Posts
March 09 2012 15:58 GMT
#2483
Even if PuMa does 1/1/1 a lot, he's still WAY better than anyone else at it. So many small changes each game. He has like 12 1/1/1 variations. I love the mindgames he can employ when playing. It's really smart play.
Twitter: @Vekalisk
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
March 09 2012 15:58 GMT
#2484
I just had to vote for Elfi. Resistance was futile.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Delicious Insanity
Profile Joined November 2011
Belgium841 Posts
March 09 2012 15:58 GMT
#2485
On March 10 2012 00:56 RotterdaM wrote:
Hope you guys enjoyed today, we all did our best! I'm getting really tired so sorry for being a bit confused from time to time and mumbling/stuttering some ( more than usual ^^ ), however tryed my best and think we had a pretty awesome day of Sc2, cheers to ya'll~



Thanks for all the hard work! And please, do give Feast a hug from all of us!
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
March 09 2012 15:58 GMT
#2486
On March 10 2012 00:53 Zealot Orgy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 00:47 Bagration wrote:
On March 10 2012 00:44 Sakray wrote:
Yeah, I also remember the NASL S1 final, where Puma won a game that he didn't deserved to, and some other final against MC where it was a 1/1/1 fest. Iirc most of Puma's matches against MC were just 1/1/1, so, I hope this time he's gonna play standard (but I want MC to win)


You might be thinking about IEM Cologne. NASL S1 finals were some of the most impressive games of TvP I had seen. Puma and MC both played amazingly.


Yes, but it was still the GOMTvT era, where all you needed to do to get seeded in next season's codeS was to go 1W-2L in the RO32, which lead to tons of crappy players (asd, Virus, Ensare was the trinity of disgrace in particular) to stay in codeS for ages just by cheesing P and Z players, which lead to the developement of various different builds ( (1/1/1, 2port banshee, bitbybit) very hard to stop if you aren't in a mirror.


Now that the 1/1/1 era is over he probably won't be able to lay hands on MC.


So many ridiculous things in one post.

Virus and Asd are both good and not particularly cheesy player. Virus almost beat Nestea when Nestea was at his peak in a macro series.

You are absolutely clueless and have been shitting on Puma all week with your inane and barely coherant (how can English be your first language?) ramblings.

Meanwhile Puma is busy not giving the slightest crap what you think and beating everyone he's played, going 5-0 in the hardest group in the tournament and taking out MMA, the best Terran in the world, in a best of five.

Now he's helped himself to $15,000 and come tomorrow afternoon it might be more.

You do not win $119,000 from Starcraft 2 if you're a bad player.
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
March 09 2012 15:59 GMT
#2487
On March 10 2012 00:54 jmbthirteen wrote:
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On March 10 2012 00:51 altered wrote:
Whats all the hate on puma because he did 111 a couple times? I mean MC isnt a saint either when it comes to abusive/cheesy strategys. And this is part of the game its not like he cheated.

haha so true. Is there a player who all ins more than MC? And its not bad either. You need to have diverse play. MVP will do whatever he wants against you and has put up the most dominating streak of sc2 to date.

yeah, MVP sometimes even builds a combat unit before his 4th CC... isn't that a cheeser? ;-)

just kidding, I get your point, just had to throw this out.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
March 09 2012 16:01 GMT
#2488
On March 10 2012 00:59 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 00:54 jmbthirteen wrote:
On March 10 2012 00:51 altered wrote:
Whats all the hate on puma because he did 111 a couple times? I mean MC isnt a saint either when it comes to abusive/cheesy strategys. And this is part of the game its not like he cheated.

haha so true. Is there a player who all ins more than MC? And its not bad either. You need to have diverse play. MVP will do whatever he wants against you and has put up the most dominating streak of sc2 to date.

yeah, MVP sometimes even builds a combat unit before his 4th CC... isn't that a cheeser? ;-)

just kidding, I get your point, just had to throw this out.

Its only cheese against Zerg
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sonkaliniz
Profile Joined January 2012
United States178 Posts
March 09 2012 16:02 GMT
#2489
So when does the rerun start? I missed MC vs Violet
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 16:03:15
March 09 2012 16:02 GMT
#2490
MMA or MC for sick nerd baller. It may go to Feast solely because he is a foreigner when he really did very little besides be a foreigner that won games, but it is a majority rules poll so oh well.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
Derity
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2952 Posts
March 09 2012 16:04 GMT
#2491
On March 10 2012 01:02 Meovin- wrote:
So when does the rerun start? I missed MC vs Violet

should be in 90 minutes from now.
betaV1.25
Profile Joined April 2010
425 Posts
March 09 2012 16:04 GMT
#2492
On March 10 2012 00:51 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 00:47 Kazang wrote:
On March 10 2012 00:45 morbvs wrote:
Sick Nerd Baller Voting is up!


Vote Feast for sick nerd baller!


Really?

MC is much more of a nerdballer than Feast. In the grandfinals, cannon rushing, best control and execution, etc.


Do you honestly think creating 2 min games with map abuse should be rewarded?
chuky500
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
France473 Posts
March 09 2012 16:05 GMT
#2493
After the canon rush by MC against Feast on Daybreak, Protoss may have to learn the probe drill if this maps gets to the ladder.
FlyingDike
Profile Joined December 2011
United States221 Posts
March 09 2012 16:05 GMT
#2494
On March 10 2012 00:54 johnny123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 00:44 Sakray wrote:
Yeah, I also remember the NASL S1 final, where Puma won a game that he didn't deserved to, and some other final against MC where it was a 1/1/1 fest. Iirc most of Puma's matches against MC were just 1/1/1, so, I hope this time he's gonna play standard (but I want MC to win)


this is a joke, i watched them all and this is not true

-NASL season 1 puma beat MC with absolutely no 1/1/1, he beat him all games in macro fashion using marines/marauders/medicvacs and ghosts. His game style was marine heavy, Artosis always talks about this when hes talking about puma vs toss and how puma is really reliant on ghosts emp because hes so marine heavy.

-The next time Puma and MC meet was in final of IEM right after season 1 of nasl. Puma beat MC in rather dominating fashion. Only the very last game on Xel Naga caverns did puma do 1/1/1 to win the final game of the tournament, All the other games did not involve any 1/1/1.

They have meet twice, And in about 8 or 9 games they played puma has 1/1/1 against MC 1 single game. Yet people like you just come here saying all he can do is 1/1/1 and sucks. What a joke.

No, Puma actually used 1/1/1 two out of the three games against MC at the last IEM finals. Get your fact straight.
phiRa
Profile Joined March 2012
United States35 Posts
March 09 2012 16:05 GMT
#2495
It seems like PuMa is held to a much higher standard or a lot of people don't like him... just weeks ago when he didn't win ASUS ROG but still managed to get third, the repeated claims of PuMa getting worse for joining EG sprung up again. I pretty much see it everytime he doesn't get first or second in a tournament...

He also beat Hero in dreamhack finals without using 1/1/1. It's time to drop his 1/1/1 only reputation. PuMa has shown he is very versatile and has brilliant mechanics and tactical play...
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
March 09 2012 16:05 GMT
#2496
On March 10 2012 01:04 betaV1.25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 00:51 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On March 10 2012 00:47 Kazang wrote:
On March 10 2012 00:45 morbvs wrote:
Sick Nerd Baller Voting is up!


Vote Feast for sick nerd baller!


Really?

MC is much more of a nerdballer than Feast. In the grandfinals, cannon rushing, best control and execution, etc.


Do you honestly think creating 2 min games with map abuse should be rewarded?


It takes pretty big fucking balls to cannon rush with so much on the line. Foreigners could learn a lot from the value of cheese.
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
March 09 2012 16:06 GMT
#2497
will puma win vs mc again or will mc take his revenge. exciting finals tmr
double620
Profile Joined July 2011
China804 Posts
March 09 2012 16:06 GMT
#2498
On March 10 2012 00:46 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 00:44 Sakray wrote:
Yeah, I also remember the NASL S1 final, where Puma won a game that he didn't deserved to, and some other final against MC where it was a 1/1/1 fest. Iirc most of Puma's matches against MC were just 1/1/1, so, I hope this time he's gonna play standard (but I want MC to win)

what game in NASL did puma not deserve to win? Puma played straight up that whole series. And IEM Cologne Puma won 2 games with the 1/1/1 against MC and a straight up game.


You can say Puma deserved to win ofc. But if you looked at the map pool in the last two finals he played against Mc and also considered at the time the tvp winrate in Korea, Mc was at a huge disadvantage.
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
March 09 2012 16:06 GMT
#2499
Apparantly Feast really wanted a rematch vs MMA bad, seeing as he decided to lose to MC
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
FlyingDike
Profile Joined December 2011
United States221 Posts
March 09 2012 16:07 GMT
#2500
On March 10 2012 00:58 Seraphone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 00:53 Zealot Orgy wrote:
On March 10 2012 00:47 Bagration wrote:
On March 10 2012 00:44 Sakray wrote:
Yeah, I also remember the NASL S1 final, where Puma won a game that he didn't deserved to, and some other final against MC where it was a 1/1/1 fest. Iirc most of Puma's matches against MC were just 1/1/1, so, I hope this time he's gonna play standard (but I want MC to win)


You might be thinking about IEM Cologne. NASL S1 finals were some of the most impressive games of TvP I had seen. Puma and MC both played amazingly.


Yes, but it was still the GOMTvT era, where all you needed to do to get seeded in next season's codeS was to go 1W-2L in the RO32, which lead to tons of crappy players (asd, Virus, Ensare was the trinity of disgrace in particular) to stay in codeS for ages just by cheesing P and Z players, which lead to the developement of various different builds ( (1/1/1, 2port banshee, bitbybit) very hard to stop if you aren't in a mirror.


Now that the 1/1/1 era is over he probably won't be able to lay hands on MC.


So many ridiculous things in one post.

Virus and Asd are both good and not particularly cheesy player. Virus almost beat Nestea when Nestea was at his peak in a macro series.

You are absolutely clueless and have been shitting on Puma all week with your inane and barely coherant (how can English be your first language?) ramblings.

Meanwhile Puma is busy not giving the slightest crap what you think and beating everyone he's played, going 5-0 in the hardest group in the tournament and taking out MMA, the best Terran in the world, in a best of five.

Now he's helped himself to $15,000 and come tomorrow afternoon it might be more.

You do not win $119,000 from Starcraft 2 if you're a bad player.

Puma is overrated.

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