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On February 25 2012 20:51 Fionn wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 20:50 sc2superfan101 wrote:
I think Hero is gonna take this!
His PvT, from what I've seen, is bomb (very good). Don't know much about Polt's TvP. Polt's like 6-1 in the last month against Hero.
Polt has a very real shot at taking out Hero, and taking this whole tournament. But I would not be surprised at either result.
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Lucky vs Mana is up next. I think that could be an awesome series and both players can take it imo.
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On February 25 2012 20:49 HolyArrow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 20:47 Dalavita wrote:
Four koreans in the quarters. Not bad performance from the foreigners. Not sure if you noticed, but all the Koreans took each other out this round >_> Well, except for ReaL, but he's not a Korean in the same sense that Polt, Taeja, HerO, and JYP are (with the Korean practice environment, etc.)
Yeah, but they took, eachother out, because a few of them were not able to win their groups, because they lost to foreigners. I would say the foreign performance is pretty good, Cloud, Bratok, Diestar, Strelok, Bling and Stephano managed to take series of koreans and syz/seiplo were near to eliminate SeleCT as well.
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On February 25 2012 20:51 Otolia wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 20:44 Teoita wrote:On February 25 2012 20:38 Otolia wrote:On February 25 2012 20:29 Devolved wrote:
Yeah, it's definitely difficult to judge. The main reason being that they don't compete vs. the same player pool. Is 60% win-rate vs. top Korean Protoss better than 100% win-rate vs. foreign Toss? It's really impossible to say and the only way to say for sure would be if Stephano moved to Korea, which I don't see happening. And that's because Stephano isn't suited for the GSL format. Problem is the moron on TL consider the GSL to be the be-all end-all of SC2. It is not. It is the be-all end-all of careful match preparation, planned mind games. That's only a part of the game and certainly not the measuring stick. No, the GSL is actually where the absolutely best players in the world compete, period, like it or not. 5 persons saying the same thing and noone to realize that it is irrelevant to the point I made. Best players overall ? Yes. Best players in each category ? Yes. But it's not because of the competition, it's because of the infrastructure there. Cause and consequence are difficult concepts to handle, I know.
You really need to take a step back and gather your thoughts and come again because you are going off the deep end here
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On February 25 2012 20:51 namste wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 20:49 Fionn wrote:On February 25 2012 20:47 SarkON wrote:
Does anyone else thinks that the host guy is totally unprofessional??? Especially when you have 2 guys such as TotalBiscuit and dApollo... Jesus, couldn't they hire someone who actually knows how to do stuff on stage?
So far, the weakest part of the entire tournament for me... The translator is nervous, there is no crowd to hype up, etc. He's doing a fine job. It sucks being the MC of a tournament when there is no crowd to actually play off. At MLG, you would get cheering or laughing when Puma said he already knew he won before playing the series. Here, no crowd reaction at all. Well we finns don't exactly like to give out any reaction at all, you see. We come to a events/concerts or whatever to see the show and not actually be part of it ourselves. Also if it's a concert and the band doesn't play just like on the album, the concert will be a disappointment.
Oh you guys...
More SAP than even Swedes? I don't believe it...
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On February 25 2012 19:59 Elroi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 19:49 Canucklehead wrote:On February 25 2012 19:46 MCDayC wrote:
29 games boys. Fuck me. I keep going on about it, but it's just sooo insane. Ok, I just looked at his tlpd and he hasn't played great opponents. 9 of those wins are against grubby and no offense to grubby, but he's not close to top tier yet. He also has 2 wins against rotterdam. The 29 wins looks impressive until you look at the opponent list. Could you show me a comparable win streak against comparable opponents by any other player? I'm asking because I don't follow SC2 closely enough to know myself, but I've sort of noticed how a lot of people here doesn't acknowledge how incredibly good Stephano is.
A lot of people here are american Idra fans so Stephano is not well liked because he's so much better
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On February 25 2012 20:48 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 20:47 HolyArrow wrote:Interestingly enough, I wouldn't be surprised to see all Toss out by the Semifinals. I feel that Lucky and Stephano are favored, as is Polt, if HerO's fairly recent showmatch against Polt is any indication of things. We'll see though  Interestingly Protoss is doing much better in Korea in 2012, but in the foreign scene things are mostly the same. I guess they figured something out that the foreign players have not yet.
I would definitely agree, for awhile it seemed like (too me at least) that foreigner Toss and Korean Toss were the closest, out of the three races, when MC was slumping in Korea, for example, MC lost 3-0 to Puma, but for some reason Mana managed to beat him. But now, with MC resurgent, Parting, Genius destroying everyone, the gap is huge again.
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On February 25 2012 20:49 TheAntZ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 20:48 BLinD-RawR wrote:On February 25 2012 20:45 TheAntZ wrote:On February 25 2012 20:42 Otolia wrote:On February 25 2012 20:41 SeaSwift wrote:On February 25 2012 20:40 Otolia wrote:On February 25 2012 20:34 Dodgin wrote:On February 25 2012 20:32 Otolia wrote:On February 25 2012 20:26 Dodgin wrote:On February 25 2012 20:25 Otolia wrote:
I am wondering which player Stephano-haters consider to be the best ZvPer if not Stephano. Leenock ? DRG ? Lucky ? Curious ? Nestea ?
I don't think so, up until last season, Korean protoss were struggling so it's difficult to judge anyway. I'm sorry but just because you don't agree that a foreigner, untested in the GSL is the best Zv anything worldwide does not make you a hater of said player. Said the guy with "Liquid`Hero #1" in his signature. I'm not really sure what to make of this. Obviously the signature means I am a fan, not that I think he is actually the #1 Protoss, that title belongs to Genius. Please continue to sidestep actual arguments though, it just makes you look like a fool. Genius ? Mister 2base all-in ? Holy crap you are ignorant. Remind me why people are arguing with this guy now? Because you are so ignorant you can't help yourself and try to argue all the time to prove something to your little ego. Rofl. What a cute lil fanboy. just because other people dont have stephanos dick 6 inches down their throat like you do, doesnt mean they dont like him and think hes good. Doesnt mean they are 'hating'. But they are also realistic, whereas you ignore common sense and just say OMG STEPHANO #1 AT ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING antz...buddy, just let it go man, don't fight with fanboys man. But...someone on the internet is wrong! I cant stand for this!
What if that person is you ? Would you be able to realize it ?
PS : I'm not a Stephano fanboy, I'm more a Stephano-hater annoyance. 
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Hope Mana, think Lucky
Hope Polt, think Polt
Hope Stepahno, think Stephano
Hope Select, think Puma
Then Stephano will beat Puma in an epic series, while Lucky wins vs Polt 
Final Stephano 4-0 or 4-1 Lucky
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On February 25 2012 20:51 Otolia wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 20:44 Teoita wrote:On February 25 2012 20:38 Otolia wrote:On February 25 2012 20:29 Devolved wrote:
Yeah, it's definitely difficult to judge. The main reason being that they don't compete vs. the same player pool. Is 60% win-rate vs. top Korean Protoss better than 100% win-rate vs. foreign Toss? It's really impossible to say and the only way to say for sure would be if Stephano moved to Korea, which I don't see happening. And that's because Stephano isn't suited for the GSL format. Problem is the moron on TL consider the GSL to be the be-all end-all of SC2. It is not. It is the be-all end-all of careful match preparation, planned mind games. That's only a part of the game and certainly not the measuring stick. No, the GSL is actually where the absolutely best players in the world compete, period, like it or not. 5 persons saying the same thing and noone to realize that it is irrelevant to the point I made. Best players overall ? Yes. Best players in each category ? Yes. But it's not because of the competition, it's because of the infrastructure there. Cause and consequence are difficult concepts to handle, I know.
You realize that this doesn't help your argument at all, right? It doesn't matter how they are better, just that they are. And until Stephano proves his ZvP against Koreans consistently, you can't claim he has the best ZvP in the world.
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On February 25 2012 20:52 XiGua wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 20:51 namste wrote:On February 25 2012 20:49 Fionn wrote:On February 25 2012 20:47 SarkON wrote:
Does anyone else thinks that the host guy is totally unprofessional??? Especially when you have 2 guys such as TotalBiscuit and dApollo... Jesus, couldn't they hire someone who actually knows how to do stuff on stage?
So far, the weakest part of the entire tournament for me... The translator is nervous, there is no crowd to hype up, etc. He's doing a fine job. It sucks being the MC of a tournament when there is no crowd to actually play off. At MLG, you would get cheering or laughing when Puma said he already knew he won before playing the series. Here, no crowd reaction at all. Well we finns don't exactly like to give out any reaction at all, you see. We come to a events/concerts or whatever to see the show and not actually be part of it ourselves. Also if it's a concert and the band doesn't play just like on the album, the concert will be a disappointment. Oh you guys... More SAP than even Swedes? I don't believe it...
Trust me, it's like a night and day if you compare Swedes to us Finns. You guys are so freaking happy and cheery in these things that it makes us sick.
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On February 25 2012 20:52 Mycl wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 20:51 Otolia wrote:On February 25 2012 20:44 Teoita wrote:On February 25 2012 20:38 Otolia wrote:On February 25 2012 20:29 Devolved wrote:
Yeah, it's definitely difficult to judge. The main reason being that they don't compete vs. the same player pool. Is 60% win-rate vs. top Korean Protoss better than 100% win-rate vs. foreign Toss? It's really impossible to say and the only way to say for sure would be if Stephano moved to Korea, which I don't see happening. And that's because Stephano isn't suited for the GSL format. Problem is the moron on TL consider the GSL to be the be-all end-all of SC2. It is not. It is the be-all end-all of careful match preparation, planned mind games. That's only a part of the game and certainly not the measuring stick. No, the GSL is actually where the absolutely best players in the world compete, period, like it or not. 5 persons saying the same thing and noone to realize that it is irrelevant to the point I made. Best players overall ? Yes. Best players in each category ? Yes. But it's not because of the competition, it's because of the infrastructure there. Cause and consequence are difficult concepts to handle, I know. You really need to take a step back and gather your thoughts and come again because you are going off the deep end here
You are right, I'll get out before I start risking something. That's because I need not to be banned to update the LP. But don't worry, trolling you is a delight.
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On February 25 2012 20:49 Angelbelow wrote:PuMa's definitely got a bit of cockiness to him forsure.
As he should. Dude made over $100,000 in prize money last year alone.
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On February 25 2012 20:53 KiNGxXx wrote:Hope Mana, think Lucky Hope Polt, think Polt Hope Stepahno, think Stephano Hope Select, think Puma Then Stephano will beat Puma in an epic series, while Lucky wins vs Polt Final Stephano 4-0 or 4-1 Lucky
Polt recently 2-0'ed Lucky in some online tournament. Lucky's worst match-up by far is his ZvT, so Polt has a good chance to make the final if he gets pass Hero.
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Are there actually anyone that uses handheld/mini pc like Asus thinks?? 
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On February 25 2012 20:53 Otolia wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 20:49 TheAntZ wrote:On February 25 2012 20:48 BLinD-RawR wrote:On February 25 2012 20:45 TheAntZ wrote:On February 25 2012 20:42 Otolia wrote:On February 25 2012 20:41 SeaSwift wrote:On February 25 2012 20:40 Otolia wrote:On February 25 2012 20:34 Dodgin wrote:On February 25 2012 20:32 Otolia wrote:On February 25 2012 20:26 Dodgin wrote:
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I'm sorry but just because you don't agree that a foreigner, untested in the GSL is the best Zv anything worldwide does not make you a hater of said player.
Said the guy with "Liquid`Hero #1" in his signature. I'm not really sure what to make of this. Obviously the signature means I am a fan, not that I think he is actually the #1 Protoss, that title belongs to Genius. Please continue to sidestep actual arguments though, it just makes you look like a fool. Genius ? Mister 2base all-in ? Holy crap you are ignorant. Remind me why people are arguing with this guy now? Because you are so ignorant you can't help yourself and try to argue all the time to prove something to your little ego. Rofl. What a cute lil fanboy. just because other people dont have stephanos dick 6 inches down their throat like you do, doesnt mean they dont like him and think hes good. Doesnt mean they are 'hating'. But they are also realistic, whereas you ignore common sense and just say OMG STEPHANO #1 AT ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING antz...buddy, just let it go man, don't fight with fanboys man. But...someone on the internet is wrong! I cant stand for this! What if that person is you ? Would you be able to realize it ? PS : I'm not a Stephano fanboy, I'm more a Stephano-hater annoyance.
hes not a hater I'll tell you that, also hes not really wrong either.
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MaNa vs Stephano finals would be nice :D
...I know it's not gonna happen
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If Polt is gonna 2 rax two times vs HerO then i'll be surprised as i was the one mentioning that he didn't want to show his best openings in the group stage.
Gogo Polt anyway Though i won't be upset if HerO wins!
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ANYONE know the current music? Awesome!
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On February 25 2012 20:53 namste wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 20:52 XiGua wrote:On February 25 2012 20:51 namste wrote:On February 25 2012 20:49 Fionn wrote:On February 25 2012 20:47 SarkON wrote:
Does anyone else thinks that the host guy is totally unprofessional??? Especially when you have 2 guys such as TotalBiscuit and dApollo... Jesus, couldn't they hire someone who actually knows how to do stuff on stage?
So far, the weakest part of the entire tournament for me... The translator is nervous, there is no crowd to hype up, etc. He's doing a fine job. It sucks being the MC of a tournament when there is no crowd to actually play off. At MLG, you would get cheering or laughing when Puma said he already knew he won before playing the series. Here, no crowd reaction at all. Well we finns don't exactly like to give out any reaction at all, you see. We come to a events/concerts or whatever to see the show and not actually be part of it ourselves. Also if it's a concert and the band doesn't play just like on the album, the concert will be a disappointment. Oh you guys... More SAP than even Swedes? I don't believe it... Trust me, it's like a night and day if you compare Swedes to us Finns. You guys are so freaking happy and cheery in these things that it makes us sick.
I can agree that we are loud when we have people behind us, i.e concerts and events like DH. But when we are alone...
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