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On February 25 2012 20:45 hns wrote:
I don't watch too much SC2, but everytime I see a Terran dominating with MMM like PuMa just did, I'm seriously annoyed by it. I guess it's not considered broken/"imba", but man is this stuff dumb to watch.
you know, force fields are pretty good and prevent that. Bischu lost that game before the stutter step even started.
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On February 25 2012 20:47 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 20:47 Ketch wrote:Hmm.. not a lot of crowd yet... but will be more during the day I guess!  half of them left as soon as the game ended, didn't stay for interview.
And not like it's a super big event or anything. Also there is a surprisingly good amount of viewers online
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On February 25 2012 20:45 hns wrote:
I don't watch too much SC2, but everytime I see a Terran dominating with MMM like PuMa just did, I'm seriously annoyed by it. I guess it's not considered broken/"imba", but man is this stuff dumb to watch.
You should probably watch when the two competitors are evenly matched. Bischu made a lot of sloppy mistakes. But yeah watching mech TvP like BW would be much better regardless imo.
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On February 25 2012 20:47 SarkON wrote:
Does anyone else thinks that the host guy is totally unprofessional??? Especially when you have 2 guys such as TotalBiscuit and dApollo... Jesus, couldn't they hire someone who actually knows how to do stuff on stage?
So far, the weakest part of the entire tournament for me...
The translator is nervous, there is no crowd to hype up, etc. He's doing a fine job.
It sucks being the MC of a tournament when there is no crowd to actually play off. At MLG, you would get cheering or laughing when Puma said he already knew he won before playing the series. Here, no crowd reaction at all.
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On February 25 2012 20:47 Dalavita wrote:
Four koreans in the quarters. Not bad performance from the foreigners.
Not sure if you noticed, but all the Koreans took each other out this round >_> Well, except for ReaL, but he's not a Korean in the same sense that Polt, Taeja, HerO, and JYP are (with the Korean practice environment, etc.)
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On February 25 2012 20:48 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 20:45 hns wrote:
I don't watch too much SC2, but everytime I see a Terran dominating with MMM like PuMa just did, I'm seriously annoyed by it. I guess it's not considered broken/"imba", but man is this stuff dumb to watch. you know, force fields are pretty good and prevent that. Bischu lost that game before the stutter step even started.
Also, losing 5 stalkers to nothing early game and proceed to lose the game by suiciding 4 sentries doing 0 forcefields is also bad...
The second game was just unfortunate imo, had some bad engagements and donated some stalkers here and there.
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On February 25 2012 20:48 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 20:45 TheAntZ wrote:On February 25 2012 20:42 Otolia wrote:On February 25 2012 20:41 SeaSwift wrote:On February 25 2012 20:40 Otolia wrote:On February 25 2012 20:34 Dodgin wrote:On February 25 2012 20:32 Otolia wrote:On February 25 2012 20:26 Dodgin wrote:On February 25 2012 20:25 Otolia wrote:
I am wondering which player Stephano-haters consider to be the best ZvPer if not Stephano. Leenock ? DRG ? Lucky ? Curious ? Nestea ?
I don't think so, up until last season, Korean protoss were struggling so it's difficult to judge anyway. I'm sorry but just because you don't agree that a foreigner, untested in the GSL is the best Zv anything worldwide does not make you a hater of said player. Said the guy with "Liquid`Hero #1" in his signature. I'm not really sure what to make of this. Obviously the signature means I am a fan, not that I think he is actually the #1 Protoss, that title belongs to Genius. Please continue to sidestep actual arguments though, it just makes you look like a fool. Genius ? Mister 2base all-in ? Holy crap you are ignorant. Remind me why people are arguing with this guy now? Because you are so ignorant you can't help yourself and try to argue all the time to prove something to your little ego. Rofl. What a cute lil fanboy. just because other people dont have stephanos dick 6 inches down their throat like you do, doesnt mean they dont like him and think hes good. Doesnt mean they are 'hating'. But they are also realistic, whereas you ignore common sense and just say OMG STEPHANO #1 AT ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING antz...buddy, just let it go man, don't fight with fanboys man.
But...someone on the internet is wrong! I cant stand for this!
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On February 25 2012 20:46 XiGua wrote:
LOL, what a snarky comment from Puma.
PuMa's definitely got a bit of cockiness to him forsure.
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the sight of the crowd makes me sad 
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On February 25 2012 20:46 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 20:42 Otolia wrote:On February 25 2012 20:41 SeaSwift wrote:On February 25 2012 20:40 Otolia wrote:On February 25 2012 20:34 Dodgin wrote:On February 25 2012 20:32 Otolia wrote:On February 25 2012 20:26 Dodgin wrote:On February 25 2012 20:25 Otolia wrote:
I am wondering which player Stephano-haters consider to be the best ZvPer if not Stephano. Leenock ? DRG ? Lucky ? Curious ? Nestea ?
I don't think so, up until last season, Korean protoss were struggling so it's difficult to judge anyway. I'm sorry but just because you don't agree that a foreigner, untested in the GSL is the best Zv anything worldwide does not make you a hater of said player. Said the guy with "Liquid`Hero #1" in his signature. I'm not really sure what to make of this. Obviously the signature means I am a fan, not that I think he is actually the #1 Protoss, that title belongs to Genius. Please continue to sidestep actual arguments though, it just makes you look like a fool. Genius ? Mister 2base all-in ? Holy crap you are ignorant. Remind me why people are arguing with this guy now? Because you are so ignorant you can't help yourself and try to argue all the time to prove something to your little ego. Just because they said he needs to prove his ZvP against Koreans (which he does) doesnt make them haters. All people need to do is see that you are from France. You are incredibly bias.
What i dont get in all your discussion is that even Stephano never called himself the best player of the world or anthg like that ... So why are you trying to depreciate his performances ? They are not the best but they are very good and i personnally love to watch his games o:
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On February 25 2012 20:44 Keltanokka wrote:
May I suggest that someone put spoiler tags on the players from the quarter finals on wards since it will spoil the results for people who will want to watch the VODs later.
I feel like spoilers around the matches past RO16 would make the LR less readable. I can change it depending on the general opinion.
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On February 25 2012 20:47 FakeDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 20:45 hns wrote:
I don't watch too much SC2, but everytime I see a Terran dominating with MMM like PuMa just did, I'm seriously annoyed by it. I guess it's not considered broken/"imba", but man is this stuff dumb to watch. Its not MMM is dumb to watch. Bischu is just much weaker than Puma.Thats why Puma dominated .
Protoss have to deal with MMM by using AoE units. In this game Bischu lost several Colossi that were out of position, and I've also seen HTs on the front line. Normally the Protoss would try to FF-box the bio, forcing the Terran to actively micro the Medivacs or lose everything.
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i think Hero is gonna take this!
his PvT, from what I've seen, is bomb (very good). don't know much about Polt's TvP.
**knocks on wood.
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On February 25 2012 20:44 Teoita wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 20:38 Otolia wrote:On February 25 2012 20:29 Devolved wrote:
Yeah, it's definitely difficult to judge. The main reason being that they don't compete vs. the same player pool. Is 60% win-rate vs. top Korean Protoss better than 100% win-rate vs. foreign Toss? It's really impossible to say and the only way to say for sure would be if Stephano moved to Korea, which I don't see happening. And that's because Stephano isn't suited for the GSL format. Problem is the moron on TL consider the GSL to be the be-all end-all of SC2. It is not. It is the be-all end-all of careful match preparation, planned mind games. That's only a part of the game and certainly not the measuring stick. No, the GSL is actually where the absolutely best players in the world compete, period, like it or not.
5 persons saying the same thing and noone to realize that it is irrelevant to the point I made. Best players overall ? Yes. Best players in each category ? Yes. But it's not because of the competition, it's because of the infrastructure there.
Cause and consequence are difficult concepts to handle, I know.
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On February 25 2012 20:49 Fionn wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 20:47 SarkON wrote:
Does anyone else thinks that the host guy is totally unprofessional??? Especially when you have 2 guys such as TotalBiscuit and dApollo... Jesus, couldn't they hire someone who actually knows how to do stuff on stage?
So far, the weakest part of the entire tournament for me... The translator is nervous, there is no crowd to hype up, etc. He's doing a fine job. It sucks being the MC of a tournament when there is no crowd to actually play off. At MLG, you would get cheering or laughing when Puma said he already knew he won before playing the series. Here, no crowd reaction at all.
Well we finns don't exactly like to give out any reaction at all, you see. We come to a events/concerts or whatever to see the show and not actually be part of it ourselves. Also if it's a concert and the band doesn't play just like on the album, the concert will be a disappointment.
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I actually love Bio play, because its very high risk, but high reward. It does have a great deal of mobility and good firepower, but if you don't constantly baby sit it, and control it well, you'll lose it all. If anything you should admire a player that manages to use bio to its top form, dodging storms, spreading vs colossus, doing relentless hit and runs.
Of course it only works if the enemy lets you.
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On February 25 2012 20:50 sc2superfan101 wrote:
I think Hero is gonna take this!
His PvT, from what I've seen, is bomb (very good). Don't know much about Polt's TvP.
Polt's like 6-1 in the last month against Hero.
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On February 25 2012 20:49 Fionn wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 20:47 SarkON wrote:
Does anyone else thinks that the host guy is totally unprofessional??? Especially when you have 2 guys such as TotalBiscuit and dApollo... Jesus, couldn't they hire someone who actually knows how to do stuff on stage?
So far, the weakest part of the entire tournament for me... The translator is nervous, there is no crowd to hype up, etc. He's doing a fine job. It sucks being the MC of a tournament when there is no crowd to actually play off. At MLG, you would get cheering or laughing when Puma said he already knew he won before playing the series. Here, no crowd reaction at all.
I find the MC to be hilarious. Dude is a total bro. Quite the change from what we are used to.
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On February 25 2012 20:49 TheAntZ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 20:48 BLinD-RawR wrote:
antz...buddy, just let it go man, don't fight with fanboys man. But...someone on the internet is wrong! I cant stand for this!
hahaha, still no one likes being told that hey are wrong.
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On February 25 2012 20:50 Sea_aeS wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 20:46 jmbthirteen wrote:On February 25 2012 20:42 Otolia wrote:On February 25 2012 20:41 SeaSwift wrote:On February 25 2012 20:40 Otolia wrote:On February 25 2012 20:34 Dodgin wrote:On February 25 2012 20:32 Otolia wrote:On February 25 2012 20:26 Dodgin wrote:On February 25 2012 20:25 Otolia wrote:
I am wondering which player Stephano-haters consider to be the best ZvPer if not Stephano. Leenock ? DRG ? Lucky ? Curious ? Nestea ?
I don't think so, up until last season, Korean protoss were struggling so it's difficult to judge anyway. I'm sorry but just because you don't agree that a foreigner, untested in the GSL is the best Zv anything worldwide does not make you a hater of said player. Said the guy with "Liquid`Hero #1" in his signature. I'm not really sure what to make of this. Obviously the signature means I am a fan, not that I think he is actually the #1 Protoss, that title belongs to Genius. Please continue to sidestep actual arguments though, it just makes you look like a fool. Genius ? Mister 2base all-in ? Holy crap you are ignorant. Remind me why people are arguing with this guy now? Because you are so ignorant you can't help yourself and try to argue all the time to prove something to your little ego. Just because they said he needs to prove his ZvP against Koreans (which he does) doesnt make them haters. All people need to do is see that you are from France. You are incredibly bias. What i dont get in all your discussion is that even Stephano never called himself the best player of the world or anthg like that ... So why are you trying to depreciate his performances ? They are not the best but they are very good and i personnally love to watch his games o:
No one is trying to depreciate his performances. His record against fellow international players is, frankly, ridiculously impressive. It's just when Stephano fanboys start calling him the best in the world when he's untested against Koreans that people start objecting.
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