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FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
February 23 2012 12:09 GMT
#2821
On February 23 2012 20:58 Logo2010 wrote:
I feel Gumiho is the better player but DRG has more experience in the crunch matches. Gumiho absolutely destroyed DRG in the first two games. Then nerves got him and he didn't defend properly against zergling run bys. The game sense by DRG to go for early pressure was smart and Gumiho if he had the gamesense to prepare for that would of easily won the match. For Gumiho to force DRG to go for early pressure indicates the pressure DRG was feeling that he couldn't win a macro game against Gumiho. That is a sign of quality right there.

I think Gumiho is definitely GSL champion material. The multidrop multitasking was amazing to see. With more experience in tournament finals he will get the much needed game sense to win these important matches.


It wasn't nerve. He was on tilt IMO.To leave your natural unguarded is one of the most basic mistake you should not make.It even happen a couple of time and it cost him the game.

DRG have done a lot of all-ins and DRG can win macro games.Did you even watch Game 3?
Terran these days like take a quick 3rd CC.DRG just read that nicely and counter it with roach bane all-in.DRG could have won Game 2 had he not miscontrol his baneling.
Play your best
ChaosTerran
Profile Joined August 2011
Austria844 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 12:10:04
February 23 2012 12:09 GMT
#2822
On February 23 2012 21:03 KingPaddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 21:02 ChaosTerran wrote:
I'm kind of glad both terrans lost. Otherwise people would find away to complain about terran again and obviously blame imbalance.

Terran wins = Terran imba
Terran loses = NO WORD about balance by anyone, everyone is just quiet, no complaints. It's like you are not allowed to win games as terran or your race is automatically OP, even if you massively outplay your opponent. The starcraft community in general is kind of crazy with this.

I assume you weren't in the LR yesterday?


Yes I was? There were still enough people who complained about Terran. It's making me so sick, it's like people are harrassing terrans so much on forums that most of us don't even bother to post anymore. Then blizzard reads the forums and sees what biased zergs and protosses have to qq about and patch the game accordingly. Makes me absolutely sick and there is nothing you can do about it, because terran bashing is just accepted by mods and the community in general. But god forbid a terran ever complains about anything, pitchforks and torches!
Reasonable
Profile Joined September 2010
Ukraine1432 Posts
February 23 2012 12:10 GMT
#2823
On February 23 2012 21:07 dormer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 21:05 bouhko wrote:
That interview translation was bad :-D


It's done on the spot by people that aren't professional translators. If you know enough Korean to criticize it, then please post a better translation of it here, that'd actually be useful and appreciated ^^


John would be useful and appreciated.

But I guess they were optimizing labor cost expenses at GOM inc.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
February 23 2012 12:10 GMT
#2824
On February 23 2012 21:07 Medrea wrote:
Man I wish MLG used places that had stairs.

My knees were killing me at Providence.

Wondering why everyone left so quickly? Like 5 to 1 standing to sitting ratio the whole event.



CHAIRS omg, I meant to say CHAIRS.

Too fucking late lol. Stairs.... yeah we totally needed more of that at MLG.

Fuck my life.
twitch.tv/medrea
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
February 23 2012 12:11 GMT
#2825
I think this is appropriate right now :D

NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 12:12:07
February 23 2012 12:11 GMT
#2826
On February 23 2012 20:58 Logo2010 wrote:
I feel Gumiho is the better player but DRG has more experience in the crunch matches. Gumiho absolutely destroyed DRG in the first two games. Then nerves got him and he didn't defend properly against zergling run bys. The game sense by DRG to go for early pressure was smart and Gumiho if he had the gamesense to prepare for that would of easily won the match. For Gumiho to force DRG to go for early pressure indicates the pressure DRG was feeling that he couldn't win a macro game against Gumiho. That is a sign of quality right there.

I think Gumiho is definitely GSL champion material. The multidrop multitasking was amazing to see. With more experience in tournament finals he will get the much needed game sense to win these important matches.


Seems like first 2 games were very very well thought out plans for Gumiho. He knew exactly how to fend off zerg, and push from 3 bases, while constantly dropping. However, when DRG began to change Gumiho's plans, things went differently. DRG got it, that if he played safe, he wouldnt achieve anything, cause Gumiho was prepared everytime. DRG needed to throw off Gumiho's game plans, and he did it.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
February 23 2012 12:11 GMT
#2827
On February 23 2012 21:02 ChaosTerran wrote:
I'm kind of glad both terrans lost. Otherwise people would find away to complain about terran again and obviously blame imbalance.

Terran wins = Terran imba
Terran loses = NO WORD about balance by anyone, everyone is just quiet, no complaints. It's like you are not allowed to win games as terran or your race is automatically OP, even if you massively outplay your opponent. The starcraft community in general is kind of crazy with this.

Ho but, they were imba posts after the first 2 games =)

Anyway, I would have prefered a TvZ finals. Genius isn't your basic 2 bases 12 gates blinks allin protoss so it could be a good PvZ, but l have my doubts.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
February 23 2012 12:11 GMT
#2828
On February 23 2012 21:10 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 21:07 Medrea wrote:
Man I wish MLG used places that had stairs.

My knees were killing me at Providence.

Wondering why everyone left so quickly? Like 5 to 1 standing to sitting ratio the whole event.



CHAIRS omg, I meant to say CHAIRS.

Too fucking late lol. Stairs.... yeah we totally needed more of that at MLG.

Fuck my life.


I was reading it, and was thinking you wanted more stairs so you can sit on it... as it would fit more!
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
February 23 2012 12:11 GMT
#2829
Hah, the templar curse worked!
DRG+GENIUS :D

so this is the finals location

[IMAGE]

looks nice

Yeah! :D
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
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Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
February 23 2012 12:12 GMT
#2830
These two put the ghost busters theme in my head for some reason.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
February 23 2012 12:12 GMT
#2831
I actually thought DRG wasn't playing as well as he could in some of the first few games. GuMiHo would drop and then DRG would just have zerglings sent in single-file, unable to do anything. With some better management in those cases the drops would be less overwhelming.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 12:13:44
February 23 2012 12:12 GMT
#2832
team MVP <3
zergling vs zealot
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 12:13:53
February 23 2012 12:12 GMT
#2833
On February 23 2012 21:09 Kharnage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 20:50 Typhon wrote:
On February 23 2012 20:47 Buff345 wrote:
On February 23 2012 20:46 Breach_hu wrote:
so DRG needs all-in everytime?

Thats what I got out of this series. He reminds me of MC. Wins games, but not my favorite player to watch


Seems like the smart response to Gumiho's fast 3rd CC. His build has enough hellions that Zerg can't take fast 4th in response, and Zerg at best playing catchup if you let Terrran get his third up that much faster than you. This was never a case of "DRG needing' to all-in" everytime as much as "you beat a macro opening by smashing his face in"


I LOVE any player that loses 2 games and can say "ok, this is what is going wrong, this is what i can do about it"



Erm, what?

Games 4 and 5 were games where GuMiho was going for a Hellion / Marauder timing / all in and had it scouted both times so had to transition out of it.

DRG saw he was trying to build a third CC and switch tech back to marine / tank in game 5 so just went and crushed him, if DRG hadn't punished a player for taking massive risks it would have been awful, awful play. And DRG is not an awful player.
@followMVT
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3822 Posts
February 23 2012 12:13 GMT
#2834
On February 23 2012 21:12 mango_destroyer wrote:
team MVP <3 zergling vs zealot


BRILLIANT
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
how2TL
Profile Joined August 2010
1197 Posts
February 23 2012 12:14 GMT
#2835
Bad players don't come back from 0-2.

You have to respect DRG's mentalality if anything, especially compared to certain other Zergs.
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
February 23 2012 12:14 GMT
#2836
On February 23 2012 21:11 MrCon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 21:02 ChaosTerran wrote:
I'm kind of glad both terrans lost. Otherwise people would find away to complain about terran again and obviously blame imbalance.

Terran wins = Terran imba
Terran loses = NO WORD about balance by anyone, everyone is just quiet, no complaints. It's like you are not allowed to win games as terran or your race is automatically OP, even if you massively outplay your opponent. The starcraft community in general is kind of crazy with this.

Ho but, they were imba posts after the first 2 games =)

Anyway, I would have prefered a TvZ finals. Genius isn't your basic 2 bases 12 gates blinks allin protoss so it could be a good PvZ, but l have my doubts.


I agreed with you.A TvZ finals is definitely more exciting but Genius vs DRG cant be bad right?
Play your best
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
February 23 2012 12:15 GMT
#2837
On February 23 2012 21:13 Grovbolle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 21:12 mango_destroyer wrote:
team MVP <3 zergling vs zealot


BRILLIANT


They do it also earlier in the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSZtPleTxD4#t=43s
@followMVT
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
February 23 2012 12:15 GMT
#2838
On February 23 2012 21:10 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 21:07 Medrea wrote:
Man I wish MLG used places that had stairs.

My knees were killing me at Providence.

Wondering why everyone left so quickly? Like 5 to 1 standing to sitting ratio the whole event.



CHAIRS omg, I meant to say CHAIRS.

Too fucking late lol. Stairs.... yeah we totally needed more of that at MLG.

Fuck my life.


Your failure has been noted in the Matrix. More stairs shall be added to your perception of reality.
Thank you for your comments and criticisms regarding this matter.
♞Nerdrage is the cause of global warming♞
Rampoon
Profile Joined May 2009
United Kingdom166 Posts
February 23 2012 12:16 GMT
#2839
On February 23 2012 21:09 ChaosTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 21:03 KingPaddy wrote:
On February 23 2012 21:02 ChaosTerran wrote:
I'm kind of glad both terrans lost. Otherwise people would find away to complain about terran again and obviously blame imbalance.

Terran wins = Terran imba
Terran loses = NO WORD about balance by anyone, everyone is just quiet, no complaints. It's like you are not allowed to win games as terran or your race is automatically OP, even if you massively outplay your opponent. The starcraft community in general is kind of crazy with this.

I assume you weren't in the LR yesterday?


Yes I was? There were still enough people who complained about Terran. It's making me so sick, it's like people are harrassing terrans so much on forums that most of us don't even bother to post anymore. Then blizzard reads the forums and sees what biased zergs and protosses have to qq about and patch the game accordingly. Makes me absolutely sick and there is nothing you can do about it, because terran bashing is just accepted by mods and the community in general. But god forbid a terran ever complains about anything, pitchforks and torches!


Welcome to...i dunno...the sc community? TL LR threads?

Wonder if you can call it racism lol. Either way personally i'm incredibly bored with it.

I don't mind who wins as long as it's a good game (baring favourites ofc).

Being excited cause your fav player/race is doing well is fine, what we get in these threads is ridiculous, and whats more ridiculous is they don't even realise they are doing it.

And the answer before about not coming to LR threads?! What kind of response is that? So it's okay that zergs can moan and abuse Terrans/terran race to the point where those of us who enjoy T just shouldnt' go to these threads?

What's next? Well have our own section in buses? Maybe i shouldnt go online and play since i dont want zergs moaning about my race? Stupid.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
February 23 2012 12:18 GMT
#2840
On February 23 2012 21:09 ChaosTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 21:03 KingPaddy wrote:
On February 23 2012 21:02 ChaosTerran wrote:
I'm kind of glad both terrans lost. Otherwise people would find away to complain about terran again and obviously blame imbalance.

Terran wins = Terran imba
Terran loses = NO WORD about balance by anyone, everyone is just quiet, no complaints. It's like you are not allowed to win games as terran or your race is automatically OP, even if you massively outplay your opponent. The starcraft community in general is kind of crazy with this.

I assume you weren't in the LR yesterday?


Yes I was? There were still enough people who complained about Terran. It's making me so sick, it's like people are harrassing terrans so much on forums that most of us don't even bother to post anymore. Then blizzard reads the forums and sees what biased zergs and protosses have to qq about and patch the game accordingly. Makes me absolutely sick and there is nothing you can do about it, because terran bashing is just accepted by mods and the community in general. But god forbid a terran ever complains about anything, pitchforks and torches!


Maybe because people are sick of seeing Terrans whine after being by and far the most successful race in Korea last year, no contest(at the height of Protoss whining last year, for example, we had 5 Toss left in Code S with only 1 Toss in the Ro16 and 0 Toss by the Ro8. Meanwhile, we have Terrans whining while there were 2 Ts in the semifinals... seriously people, perspective.) It's time for a change, and no Terran in the finals is very refreshing. Though, I can tell you're clearly upset and are thus exaggerating things.
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