EPTLone Star Clash - $10,000 Invitational in Texas - Page 181
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
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Ryps
Romania2740 Posts
 I feel bad for him. | ||
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Denzil
United Kingdom4193 Posts
On March 18 2012 08:40 MavivaM wrote: Oh man why do tournaments keep inviting guys like these... a lot of proplayers and they invite ladder warriors. NesTea MVP MC and 90% of Code S were busy for this event | ||
Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On March 18 2012 08:41 Desiato wrote: Are all the tournament games for Lone Star Clash finished for the day? No. After the college game, it's Polt/Violet and White-Ra/Stephano. THEN a fun FFA or something between the pros. Tomorrow is the rest of LB/Winner Final/Grand Final. | ||
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r4pture
United States397 Posts
On March 18 2012 08:39 ragnorr wrote: Destiny wins over korean destiny Haha my exact thoughts. <3 Dragon though. | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
On March 18 2012 08:42 Denzil wrote: NesTea MVP MC and 90% of Code S were busy for this event I'd still rather they invited more rising NA prospects than forever average fan favourites though. But I guess it is an easy way to increase your viewer count. | ||
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sitromit
7051 Posts
On March 18 2012 08:32 chosenkerrigan wrote: It's hard to define what really is code s-caliber. If you mean he's better than some of the bottom code s players, I agree. Sometimes luck does play an important role in qualifying for Code S. However, if by Code S caliber you mean he's tip top in Korea, it's definitely not true. He never actually played in Code S for a season or two so it's really hard to tell if he actually is that good. Stephano got high on the Korean ladder, what was it, like top 15 or so at its peak, before he quickly dropped down as people got used to his style? People use it as evidence, that he is Code S quality.. There are so many Koreans who've been very high on the ladder, who haven't even been able to make Code A so far... Life, who has been #1 numerous times, and was #1 again for quite a while just recently, bombed out in the Code A qualifiers a couple of weeks ago.. There's nothing to support that Stephano is a Code S level player. | ||
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simmeh
Canada2511 Posts
On March 18 2012 08:41 Desiato wrote: Are all the tournament games for Lone Star Clash finished for the day? there will be winners semi's after the csl games are done | ||
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ikh
United Kingdom251 Posts
On March 18 2012 08:40 MavivaM wrote: Oh man why do tournaments keep inviting guys like these... a lot of proplayers and they invite ladder warriors. well from a logical standpoint you're looking at a tournament in texas with "only" a 10k$ prize pool. you won't fly out the cream of the crop from all over the world. it's nice, but after a point koreans definitely don't want to dish out insane jet lag and expensive tickets to fly over for an uncertain first place (or even certain cash) of 5k$. e: fuck, i'm crushed  | ||
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Nourek
Germany188 Posts
On March 18 2012 08:43 Asha` wrote: I'd still rather they invited more rising NA prospects than forever average fan favourites though. But I guess it is an easy way to increase your viewer count. I don't think every tournament has to be the best of the best. We already have a lot of these. | ||
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On March 18 2012 08:44 ikh wrote: well from a logical standpoint you're looking at a tournament in texas with "only" a 10k$ prize pool. you won't fly out the cream of the crop from all over the world. it's nice, but after a point koreans definitely don't want to dish out insane jet lag and expensive tickets to fly over for an uncertain first place (or even certain cash) of 5k$. ![[image loading]](http://files.g4tv.com/ImageDb3/268998_S/major-league-gaming-announces-complete-pro-circuit-line-up-mlg-columbus-passes-on-sale-now.jpg) | ||
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Denzil
United Kingdom4193 Posts
On March 18 2012 08:43 Asha` wrote: I'd still rather they invited more rising NA prospects than forever average fan favourites though. But I guess it is an easy way to increase your viewer count. wat are you suggesting that steven is average? | ||
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MavivaM
1535 Posts
On March 18 2012 08:41 Koshi wrote: I like that they invited Tyler, iNcontroL and Destiny. Good to see those guys once again. Exactly! It had been a lot of time since we'd been able to see them invited to a tournament where they wouldn't, most likely, be in if there was a qualification instead. Edit: and by a lot I mean "every tournament they are not invited, since otherwise they don't go elsewhere..." Sorry for the clarification | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
On March 18 2012 08:45 Nourek wrote: I don't think every tournament has to be the best of the best. We already have a lot of these. That's what I'm saying. They invited a couple of lesser known NA based players like Heavens etc, I'd rather see a few more guys like that get a chance than guys you know are likely to exit early but who are just there because they are popular. On March 18 2012 08:46 Denzil wrote: wat are you suggesting that steven is average? yes? | ||
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Denzil
United Kingdom4193 Posts
On March 18 2012 08:46 Asha` wrote: That's what I'm saying. They invited some nice lesser known NA players like Heavens etc, I'd rather see a few more guys like that get a chance than guys you know are likely to exit early but who are just there because they are popular. but those players are worse than the latter im pretty fucking sure steven is better than some of these half assed na players you're talking about | ||
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
On March 18 2012 08:44 sitromit wrote: Stephano got high on the Korean ladder, what was it, like top 15 or so at its peak, before he quickly dropped down as people got used to his style? People use it as evidence, that he is Code S quality.. There are so many Koreans who've been very high on the ladder, who haven't even been able to make Code A so far... Life, who has been #1 numerous times, and was #1 again for quite a while just recently, bombed out in the Code A qualifiers a couple of weeks ago.. There's nothing to support that Stephano is a Code S level player. The bolded part is pure conjecture/imagination, invented as an explanation for why his winrate went down from ~70% to ~60%. He also never made "Top 15 on ladder" - I don't think he ever made it into GM. Realistically, his winrate dropped mostly because he started facing decent players rather than lower Masters/Diamonds. His style is really only "blind counter"-able in TvZ. In ZvZ... well, it's ZvZ. In PvZ, his style is fairly standard, just with slightly more Roaches and a big Infestor/BL switch later on, which maybe has a timing window when Hive is morphing. | ||
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
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mememolly
4765 Posts
On March 18 2012 08:46 Asha` wrote: That's what I'm saying. They invited a couple of lesser known NA based players like Heavens etc, I'd rather see a few more guys like that get a chance than guys you know are likely to exit early but who are just there because they are popular. yes? but those unknown na players you are talking about are worse than destiny | ||
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Ryps
Romania2740 Posts
On March 18 2012 08:46 MavivaM wrote: Exactly! It had been a lot of time since we'd been able to see them invited to a tournament where they wouldn't, most likely, be in if there was a qualification instead. Im just pissed they didnt invite Machine, who is good american zerg from EG and looks like a friendly guy. Machine never gets any love | ||
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Zeborg
107 Posts
On March 18 2012 08:48 SeaSwift wrote: The bolded part is pure conjecture/imagination, invented as an explanation for why his winrate went down from ~70% to ~60%. He also never made "Top 15 on ladder" - I don't think he ever made it into GM. Realistically, his winrate dropped mostly because he started facing decent players rather than lower Masters/Diamonds. His style is really only "blind counter"-able in TvZ. In ZvZ... well, it's ZvZ. In PvZ, his style is fairly standard, just with slightly more Roaches and a big Infestor/BL switch later on, which maybe has a timing window when Hive is morphing. Wrong. He made it to top 20 Korean GM with one of the highest zerg win rates on Korean GM ladder. | ||
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