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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
On February 05 2012 12:19 Kommander wrote: Why the fuck does Hero have doubters and haters here? He's a nice guy who cares for his fans and who is actually a top class Protoss, what has he ever done to you guys? -__- I guess the fans are the problem, he could be considered overhyped. | ||
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Wroshe
Netherlands1051 Posts
On February 05 2012 12:25 Talin wrote: The players aren't using it as an excuse anyway, it's just random forum people who dislike the outcome of the match. I was mainly aiming that at disgruntled forum fanbois. Not that it would have had any influence on them but trying doesn't hurt. | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On February 05 2012 12:25 Yamulo wrote: Funny because I have never seen anyone become forgotten after they take a gold and a silver in the same week You realize if HerO was on oGs and not Liquid, he wouldn't have been at either of those events right? That's what he's getting at. | ||
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kochujang
Germany1226 Posts
On February 05 2012 12:19 Kommander wrote: Why the fuck does Hero have doubters and haters here? He's a nice guy who cares for his fans and who is actually a top class Protoss, what has he ever done to you guys? -__- It comes with popularity. If you don't have any haters, you are not that hot, and HerO is extremely hot XD | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On February 05 2012 12:28 Bagi wrote: I guess the fans are the problem, he could be considered overhyped. He's regularly being "hyped" by various progamers both in Korea and the foreign scene. You know, people who actually know what they're talking about and don't have to look into TLPDs for arguments. | ||
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Redmark
Canada2129 Posts
On February 05 2012 12:23 Wroshe wrote: Even though the series was sort of scrappy it was still entertaining. The excuses people make are sort of hilarious though. If anything this proves even more the current volatility of the scene. Personally I feel that Jjakji is a bit overhyped even though he has a GSL Code S title. I agree, the finals were very good but his way to the final was not very convincing. In the group stages he lost to Killer and then rebounded with wins over SuperNova and Virus. His secound group stage involved getting stomped by MVP and then getting the walk-over over CoCa into a TvT win over the mediocre Gumiho(TvT Speaking). After that he beat Puzzle, Oz and Leenock to grab the title, those three are of high calibre. Still he had quite an easy path to the finals. Eh. Just because you win a GSL doesn't mean you'll win every match, and I would consider Hero to be a top player. I don't think this result means the game is volatile at all. People have been spoiled by Flash and Jaedong's dominance imo. It's like golf. People got used to Woods winning everything, and now it seems like you read about a different person winning majors every time. When forGG won an MSL and then became solidly mediocre no one thought it meant anything about BW. In most fields of competition you simply don't see win rates much above ~60%. | ||
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Romulox
United States125 Posts
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Whatson
United States5356 Posts
On February 05 2012 12:30 Talin wrote: He's regularly being "hyped" by various progamers both in Korea and the foreign scene. You know, people who actually know what they're talking about and don't have to look into TLPDs for arguments. Uhh Tastosis hype doesn't count. LOL jk jk | ||
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etrensce
Australia337 Posts
Honestly fans will hype the shit out of their players, while antis will try to cut them down. IMO beating someone in a online show match cannot be compared to facing them in a major tournement. Perhaps in time Hero will truly stand in my top players book. | ||
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naux
Canada738 Posts
On February 05 2012 11:56 dragonborn wrote: 10k people watching this match and they are playing for fame,money isnt everything. money isnt everything? lol you make me laugh.. fame = money so how can you say money isnt everything .. more famous they get more tournaments they get invited to .. what you think most of these sc2 players switch over to get peanuts? no there main objective was to earn MONEY | ||
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kheldorin
Singapore539 Posts
Hero had better multi-tasking and better response than Jiajiki. Jiajiki is just throwing every build he knows against Hero in the hope that one of the build would pinpoint Hero's weakness but Hero adapted everytime. This is why Jiajiki scouts very late. He doesn't care about what strategy Hero employs. He's a flowchart Terran that just knows a lot of builds. There's nothing outstanding about his macro/micro or his multi-tasking. | ||
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dragonborn
4781 Posts
On February 05 2012 12:33 naux wrote: money isnt everything? lol you make me laugh.. fame = money so how can you say money isnt everything .. more famous they get more tournaments they get invited to .. what you think most of these sc2 players switch over to get peanuts? no there main objective was to earn MONEY when you get fame,money instantly comes to you. but first: fame. | ||
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
On February 05 2012 12:30 Talin wrote: He's regularly being "hyped" by various progamers both in Korea and the foreign scene. You know, people who actually know what they're talking about and don't have to look into TLPDs for arguments. If you say so. | ||
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Baffels
United States1486 Posts
On February 05 2012 12:26 tree.hugger wrote: Haha, I can't tell exactly how I'm being made fun of, but I'm pretty sure it's happening. I'll just quote all the people in the first few pages though, everyone who watches HerO knows that he beats Jjakji like a rented mule on ladder. Not making fun. The bold is the fun part haha. Why I love this game, every match up is within 50% win rate of each other.  | ||
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ItsMeDomLee
Canada2732 Posts
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Wroshe
Netherlands1051 Posts
On February 05 2012 12:26 dragonborn wrote: Are you serious? Beating Puzzle and Oz to quite easy path to the finals??????? Puzzle and Oz probably #1 #2 Toss players in this scene both have fantastic PvT,and leenock best ZvT along with DongRaeGu. Jjakji's path to finals was quite tought. Yes, I am absolutely serious. He had a very weak first group set (in which he even lost to Killer) and in the second he relied on a walk over to get a second chance against a (definatly at the time) very weak TvTer. Sure Puzzle and Oz are both great players but compare that path against some other paths in that same GSL. Groupstage 1 Group 2 RO8 RO4 Finals Out of those paths (some are imaginary) definatly Leenock's, MMA's and sC's are harder. Depending on how you look you can also make cases for some of the others. | ||
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Whatson
United States5356 Posts
On February 05 2012 12:40 ItsMeDomLee wrote: Well played by Hero. Still waiting for him to qualify for Code S though. If only he could get over the 'nerves'... | ||
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ArchDC
Malaysia1996 Posts
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dragonborn
4781 Posts
On February 05 2012 12:43 Wroshe wrote: Yes, I am absolutely serious. He had a very weak first group set (in which he even lost to Killer) and in the second he relied on a walk over to get a second chance against a (definatly at the time) very weak TvTer. Sure Puzzle and Oz are both great players but compare that path against some other paths in that same GSL. Groupstage 1 Group 2 RO8 RO4 Finals Out of those paths (some are imaginary) definatly Leenock's, MMA's and sC's are harder. Depending on how you look you can also make cases for some of the others. very weak TvTer is GuMiHo? Didnt he crush IMMvp in Code S,how can he have weak TvT? o_O.Losing SangHo doesnt mean anything since you won the whole tournament. whatever,just look at NesTea's GSL July path to finals;Ro32 July,Ro16 Ensnare, Ro8 CoCa,Ro4 HongUn,Final LosirA. still im saying jjakji's path to final is one of the toughest. Also jjakji won in new format,which is 10x harder than older formats. | ||
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NuclearJudas
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