• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:05
CEST 09:05
KST 16:05
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 213ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon315.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes36Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch5[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)99
StarCraft 2
General
Server Blocker 5.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon
Tourneys
Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 HomeStory Cup 29 Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All
Brood War
General
Farewell Beloved Starcraft (Youtube Videos) BW General Discussion FlaShFTW vs A.Alm Grudge Match Event BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Summer Games Done Quick 2026! ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Men's Fashion Thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Listen To The Coaches!
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 19910 users

[GSL] 2012 Season 1 Code A Ro48 D1 - Page 153

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 151 152 153 154 155 164 Next
Fawkes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1935 Posts
January 31 2012 14:26 GMT
#3041
Wow clide...damnit.
Taeyeon ~ Jennie ~ Seulgi ~ Irene @Fawkes711
tnud
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden2233 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 14:29:55
January 31 2012 14:27 GMT
#3042
On January 31 2012 23:25 nvs. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 23:22 Mycl wrote:
Where is all this Idra hype some people keep eluding to in this thread. The way people are throwing the words overrated and over hyped around you would swear nothing else but Idra gets spoken about. Over on reddit Idra is getting ripped apart by the younger starcraft audience and he got some good backlash here in this thread as well. Im a common reader and poster in Idra's fanclub thread and even there we don't spout on how he is gonna roll through Code S and win. So where the heck is all this hype because so far I don't come across to many positive comments about the bloke


All the people who say he is the "best foreigner Zerg" and how he has the "best mechanics of ANY Zerg" are statements from Idra fans on a daily basis. You can't go onto any thread about him without reading these things.

Sorry for double post. >.>

Every player has fans that says this, the problem is that Idra has a god damn horde of them all spewing out stuff like that. That's why so many people find the Idra hype to be so annoying, cause there's a lot of it.

I personally don't think Idra has earned that hype in a long time which makes me hate it even more.
- ಠ_ಠ - | disinfect wrote: AHAHHAHAHA 2DG FUCK ME ALREADY.
ma70
Profile Joined October 2010
253 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 14:28:27
January 31 2012 14:27 GMT
#3043
On January 31 2012 23:21 Sareth wrote:
^ this

You're so right, everytime, when a foreigner wins anything, or even beats 1-2 jetlagged koreans, then he is instantly the best player in the world and would CRUSH his way through Code S.

I really think there are a few foreigners, who would have a shot at Code A, maybe even Code S, just to throw some names into the room: Nerchio, Stephano, Kas, Thorzain, but even if they would play there, there is no need to cheer just for them, because there foreigners.
Who cares if player XY comes from Europe, North America, Korea, or anywhere else?
Why judge on Nationality and not on skill?


Thanks for agreeing. :D

Back in WC3, all of the general semi-pros that I hung out with (along with the casuals too of course) always wanted the favorite player to win, and not the "foreigner vs korean" thing. Nobody cared that european teams were filled with "korean/chinese mercenaries", or anything like that. People just wanted the player to win. For me, even in SC2, I'll always root for the former members of WeRRa, Team Prime, and any old WC3 "foreigners" because I happen to be huge fans of WC3 players in general. But, I've come to like a lot of Starcraft/Starcraft 2 "specific" players, but because of their nationality, but because of their playstyle. Watching aggressive/timing attack based players is always fun...and yes, this pretty much describes MC. I may be partly an MC fanboy, but honestly, people underestimate him at times because of that image he got during his slump when he had no time to practice. He's winning games now at high levels again, and still barely gets recognition. He can obviously macro and micro, but people probably dislike his 2-base centric playstyle, cause they believe that all SC2 games should be 2 hours long with the whole map taken. :/

Cliff notes: Player Skill/Personality > Player Nationality.
ArhK
Profile Joined July 2007
France287 Posts
January 31 2012 14:29 GMT
#3044
On January 31 2012 23:21 Sareth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 23:07 ma70 wrote:
On January 31 2012 23:05 cyclone25 wrote:
On January 31 2012 22:57 hstq wrote:
I think this Code A is really overrated .... A lot of foreigners would win both matches easy 2-0. Idra and Huk just played really bad, especially Idra. There was absolutely nothing special about those two koreans ... Losira played really bad too. It is all because of Idra and Huk are not at their best at all. There are many way better guys in EU and NA.


I agree with you. Here are Huk's latest stats vs European players in bo3 or bo5 matches:

1-2 Kas
2-3 HasuObs
0-2 Seiplo
2-1 Orly
2-1 Seala
1-2 Titan
0-2 Dimaga
1-3 Elfi
1-2 BratOk
0-2 DarkForce
0-2 Stephano

These are his results vs European players since October. 10 - 22 map score = 31% win rate.

I wish people would stop calling foreigners bad just because IdrA and Huk are doing poorly vs Koreans.


Foreigners aren't bad....but they're being super hyped up. This isn't really a bad thing as it's nice to cheer for your favorite players, but if they lose, why do people insist on saying that GSL doesn't mean anything? It's sort of dumb.

^ this

You're so right, everytime, when a foreigner wins anything, or even beats 1-2 jetlagged koreans, then he is instantly the best player in the world and would CRUSH his way through Code S.

I really think there are a few foreigners, who would have a shot at Code A, maybe even Code S, just to throw some names into the room: Nerchio, Stephano, Kas, Thorzain, but even if they would play there, there is no need to cheer just for them, because there foreigners.
Who cares if player XY comes from Europe, North America, Korea, or anywhere else?
Why judge on Nationality and not on skill?


This, thank you good sir. Nothing more to add, I don't give a flying fuck if someone is from X or Y, I just judge the overall skill level and decision making. I really don't understand this whole hype thing about foreigners...
s3183529
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia707 Posts
January 31 2012 14:29 GMT
#3045
Code is so overrated that foreigners keep getting knocked out of code A, and knocked out by code A or not even code A korean players in foreign tournaments like Sound, Violet, blah, blah blah. Stop being so fucking biased.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
January 31 2012 14:30 GMT
#3046
On January 31 2012 23:21 Sareth wrote:

Who cares if player XY comes from Europe, North America, Korea, or anywhere else?
Why judge on Nationality and not on skill?

Because this game would be nothing without emotional investment, and the players personality and nationality is a big part of that for many people. Its the same for any sport imaginable.
double620
Profile Joined July 2011
China804 Posts
January 31 2012 14:30 GMT
#3047
On January 31 2012 23:02 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 22:52 FakeDeath wrote:
On January 31 2012 22:44 ma70 wrote:
Nice. I like the results. Terran's getting knocked out is always a great thing. Not really sad about the foreigners since I didn't think they would win anyway. Also, good for Sen moving on. He's the only foreigner I thought that had a chance at advancing. Also, I wish corePrime advanced cause I want the Prime team to do well

Finally, about the whole Naniwa/Huk/MC thing, I really think that's a joke. MC is obviously better than these two....and I think that people are really still stuck on MC's whole image during his slump. Huk is going on a "slump" too because he's doing the same thing that MC did....flying everywhere to play in tournaments and not enough quality practice time. Finally, Naniwa is good, and I may be interpreting what is being said wrong, but for him to say that Huk/himself are better than MC is a joke as well. He can't even break through Code A :/


Naniwa record was 0-6 during in Code A if i rerember correctly LOL.

and MCs Code A record is... wait. he didnt make it to round 2... lol



Why don't you try to compare their codeS record?
oh wait....
Nani never played in CodeS... Right and you can not compare.

Mc was dominating Leenock while Nani can not even hold off a cheese from Leenock.

Mc was the best gsl toss in 2011 and was called the best toss by top korean players like Parting and Oz. Why did you even try to compare? It is not even close.

-stOpSKY-
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada498 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 14:32:16
January 31 2012 14:32 GMT
#3048
On January 31 2012 23:15 nvs. wrote:
Looks like Idra and Huk have some more practicing to do. ^__^


Even if IdrA and HuK won there is ALWAYS more practicing to do.

I wish people in here would stop criticizing and saying these players are awful. I mean when you are in gold and trying to tell someone who is above the top 1% of players how to play or what they should do I think you need to sit and think about what you are saying.
Ghrimnar
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany260 Posts
January 31 2012 14:33 GMT
#3049
I'm not hating Idra, he is just not a good player :D. Mediocre US player nothing more. He is just entertaining,
oGsMC // NSHS_Sage // IMMvp // IMNesTea
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
January 31 2012 14:33 GMT
#3050
On January 31 2012 23:32 -stOpSKY- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 23:15 nvs. wrote:
Looks like Idra and Huk have some more practicing to do. ^__^


Even if IdrA and HuK won there is ALWAYS more practicing to do.

I wish people in here would stop criticizing and saying these players are awful. I mean when you are in gold and trying to tell someone who is above the top 1% of players how to play or what they should do I think you need to sit and think about what you are saying.


Well in HuKs case he admitted to barely practicing at all in the last month and tried to grind out a ton of practice right before his match.
jj33
Profile Joined April 2011
802 Posts
January 31 2012 14:35 GMT
#3051
On January 31 2012 21:59 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 21:58 Sareth wrote:
On January 31 2012 21:49 mango_destroyer wrote:
Never bet on foreigners.

Sen disapproves.
And Im happy for Fin and July :D
Huk - meh :-/
And i dont like Idra at all... so i'm kinda happy he dropped out
The GSL should not care about the Nationality.
They should simply invite the best players, no matter if foreign or not.


Sadly all the best players are at Korea.



What's sad about that?

If all the best players were european, would you be saying that?
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
January 31 2012 14:36 GMT
#3052
Sen! :D

You go, boy!
Cush
Profile Joined September 2010
United States646 Posts
January 31 2012 14:38 GMT
#3053
On January 31 2012 23:33 Ghrimnar wrote:
I'm not hating Idra, he is just not a good player :D. Mediocre US player nothing more. He is just entertaining,

Is there a reson why you said mediocre US player? are you saying that most US players are mediocre?
"That's not your main base Stardust.....Stardust.....that's not your main" Sayle
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
January 31 2012 14:40 GMT
#3054
both EG members dropping out of GSL tt
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 14:42:21
January 31 2012 14:41 GMT
#3055
On January 31 2012 23:38 Cush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 23:33 Ghrimnar wrote:
I'm not hating Idra, he is just not a good player :D. Mediocre US player nothing more. He is just entertaining,

Is there a reson why you said mediocre US player? are you saying that most US players are mediocre?

eh idra hasnt done a lot of late. its fair enough if people wanna say theres better US players imo

edit: but tbh compared to koreans medicore is a compliment to most US players
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Naniwa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Sweden477 Posts
January 31 2012 14:46 GMT
#3056
On January 31 2012 22:32 Megabuster123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 22:30 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On January 31 2012 22:25 Megabuster123 wrote:
On January 31 2012 22:22 Thombur wrote:
Naniwa, Stephano or Kas would probably have better chances in the GSL than Huk or Idra.

Anyway, before the year is out Vile Illusion is going to give foreigners some hope again. That kid has sick potential.

Naniwa is sick good, but he's said several times that he thinks Huk is a better protoss than MC and presumably even himself.

Do you actually believe that Huk is better than MC?

No, but Naniwa thinks higher of huks play than his own at the moment.


dont recall saying that :D
Progamer
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
January 31 2012 14:46 GMT
#3057
On January 31 2012 23:38 Cush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 23:33 Ghrimnar wrote:
I'm not hating Idra, he is just not a good player :D. Mediocre US player nothing more. He is just entertaining,

Is there a reson why you said mediocre US player? are you saying that most US players are mediocre?
Sadly they are.
#freeshauni
Ghrimnar
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany260 Posts
January 31 2012 14:47 GMT
#3058
On January 31 2012 23:41 L3g3nd_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 23:38 Cush wrote:
On January 31 2012 23:33 Ghrimnar wrote:
I'm not hating Idra, he is just not a good player :D. Mediocre US player nothing more. He is just entertaining,

Is there a reson why you said mediocre US player? are you saying that most US players are mediocre?

eh idra hasnt done a lot of late. its fair enough if people wanna say theres better US players imo

edit: but tbh compared to koreans medicore is a compliment to most US players



Thats what i meant. US has the weakest pool of players (including US/EU/KR/CN). And even among those idra is not the cream of the crop.


oGsMC // NSHS_Sage // IMMvp // IMNesTea
Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
January 31 2012 14:49 GMT
#3059
On January 31 2012 23:46 Naniwa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 22:32 Megabuster123 wrote:
On January 31 2012 22:30 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On January 31 2012 22:25 Megabuster123 wrote:
On January 31 2012 22:22 Thombur wrote:
Naniwa, Stephano or Kas would probably have better chances in the GSL than Huk or Idra.

Anyway, before the year is out Vile Illusion is going to give foreigners some hope again. That kid has sick potential.

Naniwa is sick good, but he's said several times that he thinks Huk is a better protoss than MC and presumably even himself.

Do you actually believe that Huk is better than MC?

No, but Naniwa thinks higher of huks play than his own at the moment.


dont recall saying that :D

I thought you said something to that affect over your stream during the break
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
January 31 2012 14:50 GMT
#3060
On January 31 2012 23:46 Naniwa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 22:32 Megabuster123 wrote:
On January 31 2012 22:30 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On January 31 2012 22:25 Megabuster123 wrote:
On January 31 2012 22:22 Thombur wrote:
Naniwa, Stephano or Kas would probably have better chances in the GSL than Huk or Idra.

Anyway, before the year is out Vile Illusion is going to give foreigners some hope again. That kid has sick potential.

Naniwa is sick good, but he's said several times that he thinks Huk is a better protoss than MC and presumably even himself.

Do you actually believe that Huk is better than MC?

No, but Naniwa thinks higher of huks play than his own at the moment.


dont recall saying that :D

I'm pretty sure you said something of the sort maybe a month ago in some interview. Maybe not at he moment though?
Prev 1 151 152 153 154 155 164 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 56m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
NeuroSwarm 234
Nina 131
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 29035
Hyuk 906
Shuttle 701
actioN 262
Leta 155
ToSsGirL 70
Sacsri 38
Hm[arnc] 29
Bale 16
ajuk12(nOOB) 12
[ Show more ]
Britney 0
Dota 2
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 858
Counter-Strike
summit1g6749
Other Games
WinterStarcraft543
C9.Mang0360
Sick220
RuFF_SC265
NotJumperer5
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream132
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1930
• Stunt485
Upcoming Events
HomeStory Cup
3h 56m
Replay Cast
16h 56m
HomeStory Cup
1d 3h
OSC
1d 5h
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W1
Douyu Cup 2026
Murky Cup 2026

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
SCTL 2026 Spring
HSC XXIX
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
Escore Tournament S3: W2
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Heroes Pulsing #3
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.