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On January 17 2012 19:22 Mobius_1 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 19:18 Mobius_1 wrote:
GSL Ro32 Group F
Match 2 Game 2
MVPDongRaeGu vs MVPGenius
Bel'Shir Beach Winter
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DRG spawns Z10
Genius spawns P4
Genius FFE at the natural ramp
DRG pool then hatch, takes 3rd 5:00Genius opts for stargate once again, and goes up to 6 gates once again More or less deja vu on DRG's side as well
10:00
Genius takes 3rd as DRG plants down Spire
DRG attacks past the lower bridge with roach ling but held off by Genius with very little losses, and another at the 3rd minutes later
DRG has an impressive ball of mutas but Genius once again prepared in the main with cannons and stalkers and also phoenixes
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fucking cannons man, so good. Any protoss whine about zerg air is just uncalled for, Genius style works wonders vs mutas. Mass cannons, stalkers, and phoenixes with upgrades
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On January 17 2012 19:24 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 19:23 rothsbury wrote:On January 17 2012 19:19 shabby wrote:On January 17 2012 19:13 rothsbury wrote:On January 17 2012 19:10 shabby wrote:On January 17 2012 19:09 cyclone25 wrote:
Why do protoss players still do all ins?
You might get lucky and win 1-2 early rounds, but when you get to bo5 or bo7 you get rolled by better players, because you practiced all ins instead of macro games all that time. How is forcing 2base vs 2base and then retreating to expand an all in? If you don't kill the expo you're basically going to lose since your own 3rd will be really late. That case the all-in succeeded. I thought Toss could play 2base vs 3base PvZ. It's funny how you can't attack someone without teching/expanding at the same time (making the attack less forceful), or it's an all-in. It's not like zerg can tech and expand while you're attacking him either. If the attack fails to kill the zerg's 3rd you lose. That makes it an all-in. I don't see why people have so much trouble with this concept. You'd think I'd insulted their mother or something. Except you don't lose, you're just behind. There's a big big difference.
You're really far behind though. You don't lose immediately but unless the zerg blunders you do lose. Being really far behind if it fails = all-in; otherwise 6pool isn't all-in since you can limp along for a while and drag the game out of it fails.
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Argh. How is that 4th for Toss happening?
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On January 17 2012 19:25 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 19:24 McBengt wrote:
Who is this person and what has he done to DRG? Genius defeated DRG when they met at MLG_Orlando also. Nothing too unordinary here.
It's not so much that he's losing, more that he seems totally off, losing tons of units for no real reason, missing pylons in the open, almost no creep spread etc etc.
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LOL! It's the "I give up" Hydras :p
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DRG's army is so damn weak compared to Genius's
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On January 17 2012 19:25 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 19:24 McBengt wrote:
Who is this person and what has he done to DRG? Genius defeated DRG when they met at MLG_Orlando also. Nothing too unordinary here.
I think you're thinking of Trickster at Raleigh beating DRG. DRG wasnt at orlando iirc and has Genius ever been to MLG?
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On January 17 2012 19:23 rothsbury wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 19:19 shabby wrote:On January 17 2012 19:13 rothsbury wrote:On January 17 2012 19:10 shabby wrote:On January 17 2012 19:09 cyclone25 wrote:
Why do protoss players still do all ins?
You might get lucky and win 1-2 early rounds, but when you get to bo5 or bo7 you get rolled by better players, because you practiced all ins instead of macro games all that time. How is forcing 2base vs 2base and then retreating to expand an all in? If you don't kill the expo you're basically going to lose since your own 3rd will be really late. That case the all-in succeeded. I thought Toss could play 2base vs 3base PvZ. It's funny how you can't attack someone without teching/expanding at the same time (making the attack less forceful), or it's an all-in. It's not like zerg can tech and expand while you're attacking him either. If the attack fails to kill the zerg's 3rd you lose. That makes it an all-in. I don't see why people have so much trouble with this concept. You'd think I'd insulted their mother or something.
You haven't lost. You're just 2base vs 3base. Every attack before you have 4 bases is all-in because you have to do damage and you should make probes? It is a RTS game, you should do damage with every single attack, because it costs resources.
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Not looking to good for zergs this far in this season 
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On January 17 2012 19:21 cyclone25 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 19:15 Medrea wrote:On January 17 2012 19:13 cyclone25 wrote:On January 17 2012 19:10 shabby wrote:On January 17 2012 19:09 cyclone25 wrote:
Why do protoss players still do all ins?
You might get lucky and win 1-2 early rounds, but when you get to bo5 or bo7 you get rolled by better players, because you practiced all ins instead of macro games all that time. How is forcing 2base vs 2base and then retreating to expand an all in? He had 45 probes and no tech except a stargate. It's an all in because if he doesn't do huge damage he will lose the game. Thats what we call "aggression." You really think its smart for a Protoss to challenge a zerg economically? Aggression? I guess you meant pressure, but that is when you build probes behind it and intend to take a 3rd base. Genius didn't do that while he was attacking, so it's an all in.
Jesus Christ by that definition practically everything is an all-in -.-
I give up.
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On January 17 2012 19:24 McBengt wrote:
Who is this person and what has he done to DRG?
They probably played on team practice a million times already, so he's unfazed with DRG's reputation and knows how to play him. Plus, DRG himself admitted that ZvP is his worst match up.
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On January 17 2012 19:26 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2012 19:25 Vindicare605 wrote:On January 17 2012 19:24 McBengt wrote:
Who is this person and what has he done to DRG? Genius defeated DRG when they met at MLG_Orlando also. Nothing too unordinary here. I think you're thinking of Trickster at Raleigh beating DRG. DRG wasnt at orlando iirc and has Genius ever been to MLG?
You're completely correct. I always get those two confused. Sorry.
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On January 17 2012 19:26 Sabu113 wrote:
Argh. How is that 4th for Toss happening?
It isn't . DRG is using counterattacks perfectly.
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Basetraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaade.
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I feel like static D is so under rated in pro play.
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On January 17 2012 19:26 Pipeline wrote:
fucking cannons man, so good. Any protoss whine about zerg air is just uncalled for, Genius style works wonders vs mutas. Mass cannons, stalkers, and phoenixes with upgrades
So much more to this story. Like Genius to throw a ton more cannons at his 3rd.
GIF!
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Genius has a ton of cannons, so he has a shot in this base trade.
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Why is it always a base trade scenario and not just a base trade?
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EPT
