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Mawi
Sweden4365 Posts
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shabby
Norway6402 Posts
On January 17 2012 19:13 rothsbury wrote: If you don't kill the expo you're basically going to lose since your own 3rd will be really late. That case the all-in succeeded. I thought Toss could play 2base vs 3base PvZ. It's funny how you can't attack someone without teching/expanding at the same time (making the attack less forceful), or it's an all-in. It's not like zerg can tech and expand while you're attacking him either. | ||
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On January 17 2012 19:18 aebriol wrote: To be honest, the game was over at that point. When he killed the third, and escaped with his army, it was done. Unless Genius really messed up. Muta's can force mistakes out of players that don't have a lot of patience though, so i think the idea was good. There wasn't really anything else he could have done. Either crawl back into the game with Muta's, or play from behind with standard roach/infestor/corruptor. I think DRG has faith in his muta control :p | ||
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rothsbury
Australia1654 Posts
On January 17 2012 19:15 Sabu113 wrote: What happens in the alternative scenario? Mutas pop up that much faster before blink is in play and you can't get your third due to a risk of roach ling shennanigans*. Very strong 2 base pushes make a ton of sense. Ofc so much has changed since I watched a lot << How come we never credit Genius for being a former CJ proish player? Sangho used to get all sorts of hype despite never ever looking quite... well good in Sc2 I wasn't saying it was a bad idea from genius, simply that it was an all-in. People seem to be hearing things I never said. Sometimes all-ins are very good strategies. That said I don't buy the idea that 2 base all-in is the only thing a Protoss can do. Take your own third and macro up. If the zerg is going for mutas, just stay on 3base with stalkers in your base, get blink, max out, throw down lots of cannons to deny base-race then push out. Your army will be much stronger than the zerg's. | ||
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DMKraft
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Maghetti
United States2429 Posts
No he won. DRG beat Sc 3-2. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/leagues/1534_2011_LG_3D_Special_League/bracket | ||
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Obelisco
Peru1962 Posts
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DrOmni
United States128 Posts
Edit: well that is awkward. | ||
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JJH777
United States4418 Posts
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cyclone25
Romania3344 Posts
On January 17 2012 19:15 Medrea wrote: Thats what we call "aggression." You really think its smart for a Protoss to challenge a zerg economically? Aggression? I guess you meant pressure, but that is when you build probes behind it and intend to take a 3rd base. Genius didn't do that while he was attacking, so it's an all in. | ||
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On January 17 2012 19:20 JJH777 wrote: Oh my bad not sure why I thought he lost. Well it was a really close series and it was a long time ago, so no biggy :p | ||
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Lorizean
Germany1330 Posts
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d6Mesh
Netherlands445 Posts
On January 17 2012 19:19 rothsbury wrote: I wasn't saying it was a bad idea from genius, simply that it was an all-in. People seem to be hearing things I never said. Sometimes all-ins are very good strategies. That said I don't buy the idea that 2 base all-in is the only thing a Protoss can do. Take your own third and macro up. If the zerg is going for mutas, just stay on 3base with stalkers in your base, get blink, max out, throw down lots of cannons to deny base-race then push out. Your army will be much stronger than the zerg's. To summarise: you want protoss to 3base all-in instead of 2base all-in. | ||
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Sabu113
United States11086 Posts
6 gate to pump the units for the third or put on pressure for the kill. Add Citadel for blink and +2.... Perfect time to eal with a Muta zerg? Roachling counter poke inc. | ||
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dani`
Netherlands2402 Posts
On January 17 2012 19:21 cyclone25 wrote: Aggression? I guess you meant pressure, but that is when you build probes behind it and intend to take a 3rd base. Genius didn't do that while he was attacking, so it's an all in. It's black or white isn't it? There apparently is no aggression which is neither pressure nor an all-in to you. Then I can see how you classify this as an all-in. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On January 17 2012 19:21 d6Mesh wrote: To summarise: you want protoss to 3base all-in instead of 2base all-in. Protoss doing anything ever is allin. :< | ||
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TheBB
Switzerland5133 Posts
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L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
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