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Korelle
Profile Joined December 2011
143 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-14 15:24:12
January 14 2012 15:23 GMT
#881
On January 15 2012 00:16 cyclone25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 00:12 TheBB wrote:
On January 15 2012 00:09 cyclone25 wrote:
On January 15 2012 00:04 Spectorials wrote:
This is one of the worst games I've ever seen in my life

But of course you must play better than them.

You're allowed to criticise players even if you can't beat them yourself. Not saying he's right, but this is ridiculous (and overused).


He didn't criticized them. He said the game was bad, but didn't explained why. I'd like him to explain how DarkForce and NightEnD should have played that game.


It's pretty obvious to say how NightEnD should have played that game:

1. Don't get your Mothership neuraled TWICE, that's inexcusable after the range nerf
2. Don't wait until you have 4-5 bases up before making a Templar Archives/Dark Shrine, how do you expect to beat an Infestor/Brood Lord deathball without a single Archon? That was just plain dumb.
3. He just left that mind controlled Mothership up to cloak all the zerglings that were slaughtering him, if he sniped his Mothership with the stalkers right away he would have still won that engagement. Or better yet, just have an observer with his army, not sure why that is an issue in late game.

NightEnD should have won that game 15 minutes earlier with an ordinary Archon Toilet were it not for his seeming refusal to make Archons and his terrible Mothership control, especially considering how poor DarkForce's Brood Lord positioning was. Dumb Dumb Dumb.
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-14 15:25:17
January 14 2012 15:23 GMT
#882
On January 15 2012 00:21 Thrombozyt wrote:
Damn it.. just came home from shopping and only caught the tail end.. can someone describe the incredible play of DarkForce involving the mothership? It's supposed to be amazing, but I missed it

DarkForce neural parasited a mothership and used a vortex against NightEnds Colossus and other units.

edit: I didn't see it the second time
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zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-14 15:29:28
January 14 2012 15:28 GMT
#883
On January 15 2012 00:22 DamageControL wrote:
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On January 15 2012 00:16 zul wrote:
the neuraled Mommaship was fun, but otherwise the game was kinda boring.

props to TB for giving Darkforce the extra 100 bucks

I thought DF was gonna lose for sure though. It was an interesting comeback. And neuraling motherships is about to become a thing....

yeah the comeback surprised me too, but think of the whole game and it wasn`t too much cool stuff happening. If one player tried to deliver, it was darkforce with his nydus-harras, which sadly was easily denied time after time, cuz nydus is made of paper. Nightend on the other hand was spamming mass cannons and a-move his deathball to position a, to b, to c, back to a and so on.
keep it deep! @zulison
Thrombozyt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1269 Posts
January 14 2012 15:29 GMT
#884
On January 15 2012 00:23 DamageControL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2012 00:21 Thrombozyt wrote:
Damn it.. just came home from shopping and only caught the tail end.. can someone describe the incredible play of DarkForce involving the mothership? It's supposed to be amazing, but I missed it

DarkForce neural parasited a mothership and used a vortex against NightEnds Colossus and other units.

edit: I didn't see it the second time


And what is it with the infested terrans?
Kahlgar
Profile Joined June 2011
411 Posts
January 14 2012 15:32 GMT
#885
<3 intros
Demonaz
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1219 Posts
January 14 2012 15:33 GMT
#886
Its lagging badly just the video. Audio is perfect.
Anomandas
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1 Post
Last Edited: 2012-01-14 15:34:17
January 14 2012 15:33 GMT
#887
Had to break lurker status to commend TB, Apollo and all the players so far on a really entertaining morning / afternoon!
KinQuh
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland810 Posts
January 14 2012 15:38 GMT
#888
NightEnd wow.
Holy check.
talENTsc
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States36 Posts
January 14 2012 15:38 GMT
#889
Nice control by nightend there.
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
January 14 2012 15:38 GMT
#890
2 spines between all the expos and stephano can drone as he just did and hold the attack. well blinked by nightend though.
keep it deep! @zulison
Leetley
Profile Joined October 2010
1796 Posts
January 14 2012 15:39 GMT
#891
Meh, pretty boring game. Steph overdroned and NightEnd had blink micro good enough to pull the win.
Dougalis
Profile Joined June 2011
Great Britain59 Posts
January 14 2012 15:39 GMT
#892
stephano lost that cos of that brutal supply block
Demonaz
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1219 Posts
January 14 2012 15:39 GMT
#893
I've lost like that many times on ladder...just keep droning without thinking. If he'd stopped at 50 he could have held that.
EdouarKiLL
Profile Joined October 2011
Russian Federation112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-14 15:50:45
January 14 2012 15:40 GMT
#894
that was the exact same ZvP than MC vs Stephano. and the exact same mistake from stephano: 3 gazes instead of 4.he was 800 minerals and 0 vespen at the end of the game. And a very bad supply block at the worst moment from stephano too

edit: a lot of supply blocks in that second game too from stephano =(
Trololo
Tenbo
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany4 Posts
January 14 2012 15:43 GMT
#895
WipeOut Soundtrack PS1 - I'm lovin' it
I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered. - George Best
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-14 15:44:34
January 14 2012 15:43 GMT
#896
On January 15 2012 00:39 Demonaz wrote:
I've lost like that many times on ladder...just keep droning without thinking. If he'd stopped at 50 he could have held that.

the problem is zerg never knows if the the attack is imminent or if the toss is further teching up. when the zerg stops droning early and builds up an army, he is behind, cuz at this stage of the game you cant to anything with ling/roach. the toss warps in sentrys, forcefields the ramp and laughs. stephanos build is really save against almost everything, but little mistakes (no spines/supplyblock) cost him the game.
keep it deep! @zulison
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-14 15:46:33
January 14 2012 15:46 GMT
#897
airport security still as stupid as ever. poor naama
Jtom
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland1044 Posts
January 14 2012 15:50 GMT
#898
Stephano is playing horribly
"Daddy, how did the Protossaurs go extinct?" "A giant EMP hit the earth" - Fionn
Korelle
Profile Joined December 2011
143 Posts
January 14 2012 15:56 GMT
#899
NightEnD seems allergic to Templar tech, and it's costing him.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
January 14 2012 15:57 GMT
#900
Free Colossi for you
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