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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
On January 07 2012 23:54 Dfgj wrote: 2 roaches cost about the same as 1 stalker, but take up 4 supply. Supply isn't indicative of army power when roaches are involved. Also, 61 > 46 drones. That's 15 supply right there not in his army, which also makes it seem small | ||
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Sea_aeS
1025 Posts
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dani`
Netherlands2402 Posts
On January 07 2012 23:55 ForTheDr3am wrote: I think Stephano overdroned and then lost too much when he went offcreep with his first wave of roaches. Nah 61 Drones is fine versus that imo. The one time he went off creep way too far really cost him much. But it's just extremely hard vs micro like that :/ | ||
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Crushinator
Netherlands2138 Posts
On January 07 2012 23:55 ForTheDr3am wrote: I think Stephano overdroned and then lost too much when he went offcreep with his first wave of roaches. He didn't overdrone. 60 is perfect for 7 gate.MC control is jhust very good. But if Stephano had burrow it would be GG | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
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WhurreOdu
Austria1739 Posts
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ceaRshaf
Romania4926 Posts
On January 07 2012 23:55 Jombozeus wrote: Thats not how starcraft works my friend. He botched it by not making enough spine crawlers because he was playing way too greedy. Fast 3rd hatch is a soft counter to 7 gate blink stalker. Stephano didn't counter anything with his 3rd. It's his standard against a FFE. Good to see it go down. Make drones till the protoss army is at your door and than make units and defend. | ||
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Gevna
France2332 Posts
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farnham
1378 Posts
On January 07 2012 23:55 Jombozeus wrote: Thats not how starcraft works my friend. He botched it by not making enough spine crawlers because he was playing way too greedy. Fast 3rd hatch is a soft counter to 7 gate blink stalker. 3 base into direct broodlord seems like a safe build to me | ||
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S-Class
Korea (North)665 Posts
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Derez
Netherlands6068 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On January 07 2012 23:57 Derez wrote: Sounds decision-making seems slightly off. it wasnt the best yesterday either. MC and MKP were grilling him | ||
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cyclone25
Romania3344 Posts
On January 07 2012 23:53 ceaRshaf wrote: This is why I don't like top zergs. They make 3 bases and 70 drones but no army. If they don't win in the 1st push.....gg You think staying on 3 bases with 50 drones will stop that? | ||
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DamageControL
United States4222 Posts
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
On January 07 2012 23:54 Dfgj wrote: 2 roaches cost about the same as 1 stalker, but take up 4 supply. Supply isn't indicative of army power when roaches are involved. 2 Roaches are also better than 1 Stalker in most situations in PvZ, but you are right about the supplies. The reason why the supplies weren't indicative was because: a) Blink greatly improves the value of Stalkers b) MC had gone for fast upgrades while Stephano had not at all c) Roaches are indeed supply inefficient d) Stephano had far more Drones (and not enough army) | ||
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R!!
Brazil938 Posts
On January 07 2012 23:56 I_Love_Bacon wrote: Fighting on creep against banelings while unsieged.... usually not gonna' go well for the terran. I love when people say that terrans got caught "unsieged", you either get caught or you take 15 minutes getting to the zerg base, I've lost count of terrans losing to a simple 1a2a3a, it's a sad thing . | ||
Kommander
Philippines4950 Posts
On January 07 2012 23:57 farnham wrote: 3 base into direct broodlord seems like a safe build to me If the Protoss just sits back and turtles, yeah certainly =)) | ||
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Badfatpanda
United States9719 Posts
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ceaRshaf
Romania4926 Posts
On January 07 2012 23:58 cyclone25 wrote: You think staying on 3 bases with 50 drones will stop that? Yeah cause that's the contrary to what I have said. | ||
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iSunrise
3302 Posts
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