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deathzz
Profile Joined September 2011
669 Posts
December 15 2011 09:51 GMT
#661
On December 15 2011 18:50 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 18:49 klaxen wrote:
Those early pushes are far more entertaining to me then seeing a protoss bleed to death stuck on 3 bases against mutas with no hope of winning.


Protoss doesn't lose every game where a zerg makes mutas. Stop acting like they do please

yea but it's quite saddening most of the time to see p defend against muta
Korean overlords
wats0n
Profile Joined July 2011
United States509 Posts
December 15 2011 09:51 GMT
#662
You guys know that burrow doesn't mean shit there right? MC has enough units to have enough DPS to put any unburrowed units into burrow quickly. Then he just walks up the ramp and forcefields.

Burrow is meaningless. If DRG stops doing damage and starts burrowing then MC retains more units and his push up the ramp happens and DRG auto loses. He did the only thing he could which was to use all his damage, a tiny bit of burrow, and try to break the push.

He did nothing wrong.
rushian
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom568 Posts
December 15 2011 09:51 GMT
#663
On December 15 2011 18:50 Omer wrote:
the build came out later then usual, this is probably why DRG thought that MC had an obs and was reluctent to burrow

This is probably true
"Love every protoss unit" - oGsMC
nt-rAven
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada405 Posts
December 15 2011 09:51 GMT
#664
everyone who says drg mis use burrow is foolish, he had 300 apm, he can burrow them and micro, he just obviously thought mc had a obs, and no burrow movment, why would u burrow and let them die for free, he out thought himself on that, simple as that
get owned
akalarry
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1978 Posts
December 15 2011 09:51 GMT
#665
On December 15 2011 18:50 Omer wrote:
the build came out later then usual, this is probably why DRG thought that MC had an obs and was reluctent to burrow


no, that's a normal timing. drg also scouted and didn't see a robo. he just straight up choked.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
December 15 2011 09:51 GMT
#666
On December 15 2011 18:48 enemy2010 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 18:47 Shikyo wrote:
Did he think MC had obs?

Yeah, at least you gonna try that out one time and see, if the toss attacks yopur bnurrowed units.... o.O
But he never really did that, at least not at the start

He could've known by MC not attacking creep tumors.
spacemonkeyy
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia477 Posts
December 15 2011 09:51 GMT
#667
mutas just lol at cannons and we cant repair them-- if they hit the right timing they can be infuriating
ambrosiaa
Profile Joined October 2011
Singapore333 Posts
December 15 2011 09:51 GMT
#668
On December 15 2011 18:49 Sc2Null wrote:
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On December 15 2011 18:47 JonnyLaw wrote:
On December 15 2011 18:46 theBALLS wrote:
MC why all in. sigh



If you do not want to deal with 70 drone, 3 base roach/ling/muta you allin on two bases with 44 workers.


Okay..seriously..This cannot be the excuse on every single map.

MC doesnt all in every game. And even if he does theres nothing wrong as long as it works.
Rorix
Profile Joined December 2010
357 Posts
December 15 2011 09:51 GMT
#669
DRG played reactively and safely, so no fault in DRG's part. MC just micro'ed better.
roflstomper
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
December 15 2011 09:51 GMT
#670
On December 15 2011 18:50 KiNGxXx wrote:
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On December 15 2011 18:49 Seeker wrote:
That was such a sick timing attack from MC Oo

Which should have failed because DRG countered it with the early burrow...but...I don't know...


Burrow alone doesnt counter that. If you burrow the roaches and i sprint to your natural i can isolate it by FF both ramps kill it and no more roaches then go into main do same thing and just win the game.
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
December 15 2011 09:51 GMT
#671
On December 15 2011 18:49 spacemonkeyy wrote:
Why build the roach warren there anyway?


dunno, i found it pretty insulting, remove DRG from code S?
Dumboprime
Profile Joined March 2011
985 Posts
December 15 2011 09:52 GMT
#672
On December 15 2011 18:51 wats0n wrote:
You guys know that burrow doesn't mean shit there right? MC has enough units to have enough DPS to put any unburrowed units into burrow quickly. Then he just walks up the ramp and forcefields.

Burrow is meaningless. If DRG stops doing damage and starts burrowing then MC retains more units and his push up the ramp happens and DRG auto loses. He did the only thing he could which was to use all his damage, a tiny bit of burrow, and try to break the push.

He did nothing wrong.

i agree with you
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
December 15 2011 09:52 GMT
#673
On December 15 2011 18:49 Inflicted_ wrote:
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On December 15 2011 18:47 Designakrobat wrote:
dunno....i feel like drg threw that game away


DRG has only been good at Mutaling in ZvP because it's used the exact same way as ZvT except it's even harder for Protoss to heal with Mutas.

Protoss sure have a hard time to heal with mutas. First and foremost, since Dark Archons don't exist in SC2, it's impossible for Toss to mind control a muta to begin with. Secondly, even if that would be possible, as in a teamgame with shared unit-control, mutas unfortunaly arent medics, and can't heal other than their slow regen, but that's not what I would call "heal with mutas" but rather just "mutas healing". "Heal with mutas" would more likely indicate that they had some sort of ability to heal other units, that in this case only Protoss could use. So yeah, I agree with that quote.

+ Show Spoiler +
That was what you meant, right?
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
December 15 2011 09:52 GMT
#674
On December 15 2011 18:51 deathzz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 18:50 JJH777 wrote:
On December 15 2011 18:49 klaxen wrote:
Those early pushes are far more entertaining to me then seeing a protoss bleed to death stuck on 3 bases against mutas with no hope of winning.


Protoss doesn't lose every game where a zerg makes mutas. Stop acting like they do please

yea but it's quite saddening most of the time to see p defend against muta
As a muta/ling Zerg player I get all wiggly inside.
#freeshauni
SolidZeal
Profile Joined October 2010
United States393 Posts
December 15 2011 09:52 GMT
#675
I really hope this comes down to a crossfire game, looks like it might. If it does i hope that MC does a double stargate play or something to shut down muta hard. Muta are so strong on that map.
In the clearing stands a boxer and a figher by his trade
Mithridates
Profile Joined June 2011
United States446 Posts
December 15 2011 09:52 GMT
#676
On December 15 2011 18:51 rushian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 18:50 Omer wrote:
the build came out later then usual, this is probably why DRG thought that MC had an obs and was reluctent to burrow

This is probably true


I dont think so he saw every inch of MCs base with the changeling.

Plus you can see cloaked units
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
December 15 2011 09:52 GMT
#677
Anyone else getting noise from the stream?
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
baoluvboa
Profile Joined December 2010
743 Posts
December 15 2011 09:52 GMT
#678
Also remember he didnt see all 7 gates, he saw 5 which is why he thought it was pressure and perhaps made too many drones.
stream
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2 Posts
December 15 2011 09:52 GMT
#679
On December 15 2011 18:51 MaestrO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 18:50 s3183529 wrote:
Twitch stream isn't working for me? Anyone else has the same problem?


Yep, twitch appears to be down again, this happened to me earlier.


Might be GOM trying to bait users over to their own stream tech.

Only static on there though, so maybe not :D
Engore
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1916 Posts
December 15 2011 09:53 GMT
#680
On December 15 2011 18:52 KristofferAG wrote:
Anyone else getting noise from the stream?


Ya all staticy for me.
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