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On December 15 2011 18:50 JJH777 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 18:49 klaxen wrote: Those early pushes are far more entertaining to me then seeing a protoss bleed to death stuck on 3 bases against mutas with no hope of winning. Protoss doesn't lose every game where a zerg makes mutas. Stop acting like they do please yea but it's quite saddening most of the time to see p defend against muta
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You guys know that burrow doesn't mean shit there right? MC has enough units to have enough DPS to put any unburrowed units into burrow quickly. Then he just walks up the ramp and forcefields.
Burrow is meaningless. If DRG stops doing damage and starts burrowing then MC retains more units and his push up the ramp happens and DRG auto loses. He did the only thing he could which was to use all his damage, a tiny bit of burrow, and try to break the push.
He did nothing wrong.
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United Kingdom568 Posts
On December 15 2011 18:50 Omer wrote: the build came out later then usual, this is probably why DRG thought that MC had an obs and was reluctent to burrow This is probably true
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everyone who says drg mis use burrow is foolish, he had 300 apm, he can burrow them and micro, he just obviously thought mc had a obs, and no burrow movment, why would u burrow and let them die for free, he out thought himself on that, simple as that
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On December 15 2011 18:50 Omer wrote: the build came out later then usual, this is probably why DRG thought that MC had an obs and was reluctent to burrow
no, that's a normal timing. drg also scouted and didn't see a robo. he just straight up choked.
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On December 15 2011 18:48 enemy2010 wrote:Yeah, at least you gonna try that out one time and see, if the toss attacks yopur bnurrowed units.... o.O But he never really did that, at least not at the start He could've known by MC not attacking creep tumors.
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mutas just lol at cannons and we cant repair them-- if they hit the right timing they can be infuriating
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On December 15 2011 18:49 Sc2Null wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 18:47 JonnyLaw wrote:On December 15 2011 18:46 theBALLS wrote:MC  why all in. sigh If you do not want to deal with 70 drone, 3 base roach/ling/muta you allin on two bases with 44 workers. Okay..seriously..This cannot be the excuse on every single map. MC doesnt all in every game. And even if he does theres nothing wrong as long as it works.
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DRG played reactively and safely, so no fault in DRG's part. MC just micro'ed better.
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On December 15 2011 18:50 KiNGxXx wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 18:49 Seeker wrote: That was such a sick timing attack from MC Oo Which should have failed because DRG countered it with the early burrow...but...I don't know...
Burrow alone doesnt counter that. If you burrow the roaches and i sprint to your natural i can isolate it by FF both ramps kill it and no more roaches then go into main do same thing and just win the game.
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On December 15 2011 18:49 spacemonkeyy wrote: Why build the roach warren there anyway?
dunno, i found it pretty insulting, remove DRG from code S?
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On December 15 2011 18:51 wats0n wrote: You guys know that burrow doesn't mean shit there right? MC has enough units to have enough DPS to put any unburrowed units into burrow quickly. Then he just walks up the ramp and forcefields.
Burrow is meaningless. If DRG stops doing damage and starts burrowing then MC retains more units and his push up the ramp happens and DRG auto loses. He did the only thing he could which was to use all his damage, a tiny bit of burrow, and try to break the push.
He did nothing wrong. i agree with you
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On December 15 2011 18:49 Inflicted_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 18:47 Designakrobat wrote: dunno....i feel like drg threw that game away DRG has only been good at Mutaling in ZvP because it's used the exact same way as ZvT except it's even harder for Protoss to heal with Mutas. Protoss sure have a hard time to heal with mutas. First and foremost, since Dark Archons don't exist in SC2, it's impossible for Toss to mind control a muta to begin with. Secondly, even if that would be possible, as in a teamgame with shared unit-control, mutas unfortunaly arent medics, and can't heal other than their slow regen, but that's not what I would call "heal with mutas" but rather just "mutas healing". "Heal with mutas" would more likely indicate that they had some sort of ability to heal other units, that in this case only Protoss could use. So yeah, I agree with that quote.
+ Show Spoiler +That was what you meant, right? 
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On December 15 2011 18:51 deathzz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 18:50 JJH777 wrote:On December 15 2011 18:49 klaxen wrote: Those early pushes are far more entertaining to me then seeing a protoss bleed to death stuck on 3 bases against mutas with no hope of winning. Protoss doesn't lose every game where a zerg makes mutas. Stop acting like they do please yea but it's quite saddening most of the time to see p defend against muta As a muta/ling Zerg player I get all wiggly inside.
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I really hope this comes down to a crossfire game, looks like it might. If it does i hope that MC does a double stargate play or something to shut down muta hard. Muta are so strong on that map.
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On December 15 2011 18:51 rushian wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 18:50 Omer wrote: the build came out later then usual, this is probably why DRG thought that MC had an obs and was reluctent to burrow This is probably true
I dont think so he saw every inch of MCs base with the changeling.
Plus you can see cloaked units
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Norway25712 Posts
Anyone else getting noise from the stream?
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Also remember he didnt see all 7 gates, he saw 5 which is why he thought it was pressure and perhaps made too many drones.
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On December 15 2011 18:51 MaestrO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 18:50 s3183529 wrote: Twitch stream isn't working for me? Anyone else has the same problem? Yep, twitch appears to be down again, this happened to me earlier.
Might be GOM trying to bait users over to their own stream tech.
Only static on there though, so maybe not :D
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On December 15 2011 18:52 KristofferAG wrote: Anyone else getting noise from the stream?
Ya all staticy for me.
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