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Can't go to lunch without coming back to 20+ reports. This makes me upset. Stop the bullshit or get ready to hammered. Thanks --Pholon | ||
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ElephantBaby
United States1365 Posts
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leo23
United States3075 Posts
On December 13 2011 11:14 LighT. wrote: I love making predictions so Ill give the unlikely scenario 1. Polt 2-2 2 MMA 2-2 3. Leenock 2-2 4. Nestea 2-1 DQ 5. NaNiWa 1-2 DQ In the final match up featuring Nestea and Naniwa, Naniwa randomly pauses the game promptly as he has sound problems. Nestea, reacts to it in the game (paused) with "...", prompting Naniwa to go "relax there, sound problem" Nestea overreacts and he gets up from his gamer cube and walks to Naniwa personally to confront him, overreacting to it stating "You want fight?" naniwa, doesnt back down and gets up and confronts him, giving each other small shoves, causing the players to come aboard and have them break up including the coach of IM and GomTV personnel NesTea, and Naniwa is redeemed DQ'ed by Mr. Chae for manner and Polt/Leenock/MMA advances, causing servers to crash on TL over the discussio and bearing the first scar of SC2 ... >_>....most likely not happen but I want Naniwa and NEstea to have one hell of a bo1 match :D Damn I remember reading this yesterday... It was kinda close! | ||
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Kdog3wa
Sweden40 Posts
User was banned for this post. | ||
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renaissanceMAN
United States1840 Posts
On December 14 2011 03:06 Kdog3wa wrote: Nazgul is fucking stupid as shit. And thanks, I will enjoy my ban. rofl you're just making yourself look as childish as naniwa GG | ||
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fush
Canada563 Posts
On December 14 2011 03:06 Kdog3wa wrote: Nazgul is fucking stupid as shit. And thanks, I will enjoy my ban. ahhh, the priceless response of someone who realizes he has nothing else to say in a lost argument. | ||
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On December 14 2011 03:06 Kdog3wa wrote: Nazgul is fucking stupid as shit. And thanks, I will enjoy my ban. hahahahah wtf is going on here... just stop | ||
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renaissanceMAN
United States1840 Posts
On December 14 2011 03:06 Kdog3wa wrote: BANN ME NAOW!!! :D:D:D User was banned for this post. this post just has so much win p.s. thank you to admins | ||
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dolvlo
United States99 Posts
On December 14 2011 03:04 renaissanceMAN wrote: its not who he was mad at, its the fact that he spends all this time acting like a big shot, telling his rival to chill out, and then he goes and acts like a child I don't think it was childish. I don't want to spend 20+ minutes watching a game that's meaningless, a game with no incentive to win, making me waste that time when I could be watching games that actually matter (i.e. Leenock, Polt, and MMA duking it out). Why do you argue that he's acting like a child? | ||
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Soma.bokforlag
Sweden448 Posts
On December 13 2011 21:06 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: No respect to viewers, producers, casters and anyone else involved in making this tournament a success. If there were betting lines out of these matches it's absolutely unacceptable regarding that as well. I doubt Naniwa researched that so it's morally the same decision. i work for a betting company and we take these things into consideration. you will likely find that fulham with something to play for will be favourites against manchester united with nothing to play for. were not stupid | ||
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renaissanceMAN
United States1840 Posts
On December 14 2011 03:13 dolvlo wrote: I don't think it was childish. I don't want to spend 20+ minutes watching a game that's meaningless, a game with no incentive to win, making me waste that time when I could be watching games that actually matter (i.e. Leenock, Polt, and MMA duking it out). Why do you argue that he's acting like a child? meaningless or not, you have to realize that as a pro gamer, in a televised tournament, you have expectations to meet,not only for you and your fans, but for your sponsor and your team; and the fact of the matter is that naniwa didn't meet those expectations, he just gave up and threw a temper tantrum. that is why I'm arguing he's acting like a child. | ||
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ElephantBaby
United States1365 Posts
On December 14 2011 03:17 Soma.bokforlag wrote: i work for a betting company and we take these things into consideration. you will likely find that fulham with something to play for will be favourites against manchester united with nothing to play for. were not stupid Sure, but Machester united won't just throw the towel and leave. You won't get 100% effort from them, but you were expecting 50% effort. If you get 0% effort, ofc it is not right. | ||
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
On December 13 2011 06:43 1Eris1 wrote: Polt 4-0 Nestea 2-2 MMA 2-2 Leenock 2-2 Naniwa 0-4 Sup? Wow, I actually feel pretty good now =) | ||
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regiment
Germany51 Posts
I as a viewer don't want to watch meaningless games. I mean, even if my favourite player wins and it's a good match, I always have the feeling that the opponent doesn't play serious (well, why should he?). Naniwa just made it obvious and gets hated so much for it? I don't know how things like this are handled in elsewhere, but in soccer you can often see a team that has to play a meaningless match to bring their reserve team. This is equal to not giving a fuck about weither that game is lost or not. And it still is professional. Naniwa doesn't have this option, so he cheeses (even though he knows it's unwinnable). I sadly didn't see the game, but keep in mind that Naniwa could've just left instantly. Probe rushing was maybe actually done for the viewers and I read that a lot of people were amused by it. I have to agree with IdrA here: 'dont have meaningless matches if you want players to take them seriously.' And to what I read about the reactions: I can't believe what people wrote here and there. Choya for example or Nazgul... I don't think they were very respectful themselves. And that sugar-coats it strongly. At last, to all those 'this was disrespectful to those who stayed up to watch these games'-guys: I stayed up the whole weekend to watch these really, really dissapointing WCG-Finals. Still, I don't think Mvp should have played worse to make these matches interesting for the viewers. Do you? No? Then live with the fact that you can't expect good games just because you watch them. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
I can't say I agree with the guy's action, but neither do I actually view it as a particularly big deal. First of all there were NO results that the match could have influenced. Yeah he was petulant, but the people shitting on him as a person and indeed as a player are going overboard. At least here though he is due some criticism, I felt the vitriol that resulted from MLG Providence was entirely 100% ridiculous, but here yeah sure go nuts. Personally I really hate these bo1 group stages, surely there is time to extend them out til at least bo3? NASL can be criticised for many things, but as far as the actual match format went, bo5 single elimination into bo7 finals, I felt they had it entirely on the money. Bo1 is just too random a format for me to really enjoy, there are a lot of build order losses, stupid all-ins and making one mistake in one engagement can have you really struggling to qualify. | ||
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dolvlo
United States99 Posts
On December 14 2011 03:18 renaissanceMAN wrote: meaningless or not, you have to realize that as a pro gamer, in a televised tournament, you have expectations to meet,not only for you and your fans, but for your sponsor and your team; and the fact of the matter is that naniwa didn't meet those expectations, he just gave up and threw a temper tantrum. that is why I'm arguing he's acting like a child. I'm pretty sure Naniwa is living up (and surpassing) the expectations that fans have of him. He's the new bad boy of esports. Did he throw a temper tantrum? If he paused the game and demanded something, or shit talked the producers or players, I'd agree with you. He didn't, he kept his anger entirely inward, like a Real Man. Forfeiting a match that is meaningless is hardly throwing a temper tantrum. | ||
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Nagvalk
South Africa220 Posts
He signed up for a tournament to play at least 4 games. So what if it was a meaningless game? If you are a PROFESSIONAL, you play those 4 games to the best of your abilities. For a guy who is looking play GSL, this is really unimpressive. He could have lost in a hundred different ways without causing this ruckuss. And yes, when people PAY TO WATCH YOU PLAY THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXPECT YOUR BEST! | ||
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chosenkerrigan
858 Posts
On December 14 2011 03:04 renaissanceMAN wrote: its not who he was mad at, its the fact that he spends all this time acting like a big shot, telling his rival to chill out, and then he goes and acts like a child Pretty much this. Naniwa really embarrassed himself. | ||
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
On December 14 2011 03:18 renaissanceMAN wrote: meaningless or not, you have to realize that as a pro gamer, in a televised tournament, you have expectations to meet,not only for you and your fans, but for your sponsor and your team; and the fact of the matter is that naniwa didn't meet those expectations, he just gave up and threw a temper tantrum. that is why I'm arguing he's acting like a child. Who set these "expectations"? A competitor, baesline, should have to 1. Practice 2. Attempt to win NOTHING ELSE. NOTHING. Naniwa had 0% chance to win Blizzard Cup, the tourney was over for him and nestea. If there is "more" that a player is being forced to do by their team per contract, it's the teams obligation to deal with that issue, and not the "communities" job to fucking bitch and moan about it and rage at Naniwa. | ||
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Disastorm
United States922 Posts
On December 14 2011 03:55 SafeAsCheese wrote: Who set these "expectations"? A competitor, baesline, should have to 1. Practice 2. Attempt to win NOTHING ELSE. NOTHING. Naniwa had 0% chance to win Blizzard Cup, the tourney was over for him and nestea. If there is "more" that a player is being forced to do by their team per contract, it's the teams obligation to deal with that issue, and not the "communities" job to fucking bitch and moan about it and rage at Naniwa. I imagine the contracts probably do have alot more than just those 2 things. They probably do have stuff about respect and representation of the team itself. | ||
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aut0mati0n
United States97 Posts
On December 14 2011 03:06 Kdog3wa wrote: BANN ME NAOW!!! :D:D:D User was banned for this post. This is that first intelligent post I've seen in this thread. | ||
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