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Can't go to lunch without coming back to 20+ reports. This makes me upset. Stop the bullshit or get ready to hammered. Thanks --Pholon
dolvlo
Profile Joined December 2010
United States99 Posts
December 13 2011 17:26 GMT
#5741
On December 14 2011 01:40 Usagi wrote:
Have to love Wolf saying he would find apropiate 110% a 6 months ban for Naniwa, elitism to the max, lost quite some respect really, people in a position of power shouldnt say such things.


Did he really say this? What a joke. Wolf, you're full of shit. If anything, Naniwa did GOM and blizzard a favor: attitude gets attention, and people love the entertainment.
Terrestrialrage
Profile Joined February 2011
United States122 Posts
December 13 2011 17:28 GMT
#5742
On December 14 2011 02:14 solidONE wrote:
Athletes are always regarded to have their pride over everything else, when the behind the scenes in any sport obviously tells you otherwise. All they give a damn about is their money and contract opportunities. You always see worse play when nothing is the line no matter what it is.


That's all fine and good, people can play for whatever reason they want, but there are many teams in the NFL that won't make the playoffs this year. Do they go out there and give half-ass performances? Rams put on a show last night (until the 4th quarter) and they're 2-11. The difference is, professionals play even when they have nothing to gain because they have a reputation to uphold, sponsors to play for, and fans to play for. Naniwa slapped Gom, his fans, and Nestea in the face by not playing this game. I'm not a fan of any of the players involved or an anti-fan, but the blatant disregard that Naniwa had for all other aspects of his decision-making shows how completely immature and not-ready he is to be a professional ANYTHING, let alone a professional on a world-wide level.
We need more Lemon Pledge....
FortyOzs
Profile Joined February 2011
189 Posts
December 13 2011 17:28 GMT
#5743
Glad we could get done with Naniwa vs Nestea and go on to the real games
Gara
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada435 Posts
December 13 2011 17:33 GMT
#5744
So... can we all agree that Naniwa is the new Idra? It's always disappointing to see a very good player tilt dramatically and suffer for it.

I don't think a ban of any sort is in order... Naniwa certainly played by the letter of the law, if not the spirit of the law. If any sanctions or punishment comes down, it should be from his team, not GOM.
MrCash
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1504 Posts
December 13 2011 17:33 GMT
#5745
On December 14 2011 02:26 dolvlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 01:40 Usagi wrote:
Have to love Wolf saying he would find apropiate 110% a 6 months ban for Naniwa, elitism to the max, lost quite some respect really, people in a position of power shouldnt say such things.


Did he really say this? What a joke. Wolf, you're full of shit. If anything, Naniwa did GOM and blizzard a favor: attitude gets attention, and people love the entertainment.


Professional organizations need to also watch their reputation.
If all they are doing is catering to spoiled brats, it speaks to the maturity and professionalism of the league.
They need to explain why people shouldn't be ashamed to have their product represented by this league.

Showmanship and entertainment is one thing, compromising the integrity of the game is whole other thing.
I don't like how people are DOWN playing this.

What is the difference between this and match fixing?
Yes, nothing was on the line, but he is still getting paid almost as much as a Runner Up of Code A.
And Naniwa couldn't come anywhere close to getting that, since it's also hard as hell to get.

A lot of the arguments are very objective, including mine, the bottom line should be (repeat):
How is this different from match fixing?
Coca got pulled for GSL completely. Player in the past had much worse consequences.
There isn't any betting or money changing hands this time, but standards of professionalism need to be set and enforced for the sport to be taken seriously and not turn into a sideshow or joke.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
December 13 2011 17:34 GMT
#5746
Congrats to Leenock and Polt going through. MMA looking beast mode as always. Nestea has fallen soo far, what has happened to him?
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 13 2011 17:39 GMT
#5747
Why do people say that naniwa is getting cheesed every single game? When he is the one who ALWAYS Eco cheeses and is getting punished. Most of the Koreans are going early pressure but since naniwa plays so greedy, they look like all ins because they are doing so much damage to him.

If the problem is with him getting cheese, couldn't he just play more conservative and come out ahead each time?
dolvlo
Profile Joined December 2010
United States99 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 17:46:46
December 13 2011 17:45 GMT
#5748
On December 14 2011 01:40 MrCash wrote:
How is this different from match fixing?



This is different from match fixing because the outcome of this match is 100% irrelevant to the tournament, or the players involved. There is no difference between this match and a televised practice match. Remember when Huk played Boxer in BW at IPL3 and talked major shit and preemptively GG'd? It's the same as that. Period.
Kdog3wa
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden40 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 18:07:59
December 13 2011 17:49 GMT
#5749
Thorzain, MMA, Moon & Nerchio. Also, I hate protoss.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
December 13 2011 17:51 GMT
#5750
On December 14 2011 02:49 Kdog3wa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 21:06 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
No respect to viewers, producers, casters and anyone else involved in making this tournament a success.

If there were betting lines out of these matches it's absolutely unacceptable regarding that as well. I doubt Naniwa researched that so it's morally the same decision.


Well, there aren't "betting lines" in these matches so the game is TOTALLY pointless, why don't you step out of your sphere of believing that this world is all good and why don't you stop crying at every little thing, ok?

Also, where were your thoughts on all of idras premature rage quits? all of his bm? Where were you then Nazgul. Seriously, fuck off, baby.

LOL... 40 posts... mindless rant... you're way out of line man.
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
December 13 2011 17:51 GMT
#5751
On December 14 2011 02:49 Kdog3wa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 21:06 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
No respect to viewers, producers, casters and anyone else involved in making this tournament a success.

If there were betting lines out of these matches it's absolutely unacceptable regarding that as well. I doubt Naniwa researched that so it's morally the same decision.


Well, there aren't "betting lines" in these matches so the game is TOTALLY pointless, why don't you step out of your sphere of believing that this world is all good and why don't you stop crying at every little thing, ok?

Also, where were your thought on all of idras premature rage quits? all of his bm? Where were you then Nazgul. Seriously, fuck off, baby.

I'm pretty sure Nazgul, and everyone else on TL planet has voiced their opinions, good and bad, on Idra's premature rage quits and bm. That has nothing to do with the situation at hand.

Enjoy your ban, btw.
I love crazymoving
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
December 13 2011 17:52 GMT
#5752
so I didnt expect anything from naniwa, but totally did not expect this

like I said before, naniwa is nothing compared to nestea, and I am interested to see how he lives with this decision he made, and everyone else sees him for what he is, an elitist prick
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
iamahydralisk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States813 Posts
December 13 2011 17:52 GMT
#5753
On December 13 2011 21:13 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 21:09 ambrosiaa wrote:
On December 13 2011 21:07 Yaki wrote:
I am gonna fucking complain to GOMTV about that, I paid for that shit.

dont be so spoilt. that was just 1 match which didnt even matter.

it did matter. we wanted to see naniwa vs nestea rematch. a 7 pool by nestea would've been a legit strategy for example, however what naniwa did cannot work.

I realize I'm quoting an old post (just woke up and reading through the thread), but you do realize that a worker rush hardcounters a 7 pool, right? It's ironic that your supposed "legit" strategy for Nestea would've been beaten by Nani's strat that supposedly "cannot work."
"well if youre looking for long term, go safe, if you expect it to end either way, go risky. wow. just like sc2" - friend of mine when I asked him which girl to pick
Sub Zero
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland117 Posts
December 13 2011 17:56 GMT
#5754
On December 14 2011 02:49 Kdog3wa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 21:06 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
No respect to viewers, producers, casters and anyone else involved in making this tournament a success.

If there were betting lines out of these matches it's absolutely unacceptable regarding that as well. I doubt Naniwa researched that so it's morally the same decision.


Well, there aren't "betting lines" in these matches so the game is TOTALLY pointless, why don't you step out of your sphere of believing that this world is all good and why don't you stop crying at every little thing, ok?

Also, where were your thoughts on all of idras premature rage quits? all of his bm? Where were you then Nazgul. Seriously, fuck off, baby.



Are there not? Doesn't pinnacle sports offer betting on this tournament?
Jaedong <3 Boxer <3 MMA <3
pak150
Profile Joined September 2010
United States531 Posts
December 13 2011 17:57 GMT
#5755
I can't wait to hear the SotG conversation about all this drama!
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
December 13 2011 17:58 GMT
#5756
lol Nani 1-12 in TLPD. And people were calling him best toss after Providence(cough tasteless)
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
December 13 2011 17:59 GMT
#5757
On December 14 2011 02:49 Kdog3wa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 21:06 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
No respect to viewers, producers, casters and anyone else involved in making this tournament a success.

If there were betting lines out of these matches it's absolutely unacceptable regarding that as well. I doubt Naniwa researched that so it's morally the same decision.


Well, there aren't "betting lines" in these matches so the game is TOTALLY pointless, why don't you step out of your sphere of believing that this world is all good and why don't you stop crying at every little thing, ok?

Also, where were your thoughts on all of idras premature rage quits? all of his bm? Where were you then Nazgul. Seriously, fuck off, baby.


idra's premature rage quits were at least partially based on something (thinking that huk was super far ahead/mma still having the gold expo)

anyone else think it's hilarious that naniwa was telling nestea to chill out before all this, and he's the one that blows his top?
On August 15 2013 03:43 Waxangel wrote: no amount of money can replace the enjoyment of being mean to people on the internet
dolvlo
Profile Joined December 2010
United States99 Posts
December 13 2011 18:01 GMT
#5758
On December 14 2011 02:59 renaissanceMAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 02:49 Kdog3wa wrote:
On December 13 2011 21:06 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
No respect to viewers, producers, casters and anyone else involved in making this tournament a success.

If there were betting lines out of these matches it's absolutely unacceptable regarding that as well. I doubt Naniwa researched that so it's morally the same decision.


Well, there aren't "betting lines" in these matches so the game is TOTALLY pointless, why don't you step out of your sphere of believing that this world is all good and why don't you stop crying at every little thing, ok?

Also, where were your thoughts on all of idras premature rage quits? all of his bm? Where were you then Nazgul. Seriously, fuck off, baby.


anyone else think it's hilarious that naniwa was telling nestea to chill out before all this, and he's the one that blows his top?


Was he mad at anyone except his own play? I think you're projecting here...
Ivanov
Profile Joined November 2011
Turkey40 Posts
December 13 2011 18:02 GMT
#5759
On December 13 2011 21:05 GTR wrote:
what a turd


On December 13 2011 21:06 nihoh wrote:
What a retard.

User was temp banned for this post.


I am failing to see the difference here. One is banned though...
TT1 Canada. December 10 2011 : there is no sun in canada and working out requires too much energy
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
December 13 2011 18:04 GMT
#5760
On December 14 2011 03:01 dolvlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 02:59 renaissanceMAN wrote:
On December 14 2011 02:49 Kdog3wa wrote:
On December 13 2011 21:06 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
No respect to viewers, producers, casters and anyone else involved in making this tournament a success.

If there were betting lines out of these matches it's absolutely unacceptable regarding that as well. I doubt Naniwa researched that so it's morally the same decision.


Well, there aren't "betting lines" in these matches so the game is TOTALLY pointless, why don't you step out of your sphere of believing that this world is all good and why don't you stop crying at every little thing, ok?

Also, where were your thoughts on all of idras premature rage quits? all of his bm? Where were you then Nazgul. Seriously, fuck off, baby.


anyone else think it's hilarious that naniwa was telling nestea to chill out before all this, and he's the one that blows his top?


Was he mad at anyone except his own play? I think you're projecting here...


its not who he was mad at, its the fact that he spends all this time acting like a big shot, telling his rival to chill out, and then he goes and acts like a child
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