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Can't go to lunch without coming back to 20+ reports. This makes me upset. Stop the bullshit or get ready to hammered. Thanks --Pholon
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
December 13 2011 16:40 GMT
#5721
Have to love Wolf saying he would find apropiate 110% a 6 months ban for Naniwa, elitism to the max, lost quite some respect really, people in a position of power shouldnt say such things.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 13 2011 16:42 GMT
#5722
Why does naniwa Eco- cheese every game?
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
December 13 2011 16:48 GMT
#5723
Naniwa is a complete joke after that.

- You just switched teams due to not getting the money you deserve (in your opinion)
- You then proceed to not only lose every game right afterwards, but just give up against one of the most heralded SC2 players in the world

How many people get to say they got to play a game against Nestea? How many fans were so excited to see the rematch regardless of whether it mattered or not? How many players are putting in countless hours a day in SC2 that will NEVER reach the level Naniwa is at or get to play in the GSL? Even IdrA wouldn't do that, and he's supposed to be the BM king (if you listen to his anti-fans).

I'm so, so disgusted.
I love crazymoving
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44868 Posts
December 13 2011 16:55 GMT
#5724
Poor Nestea x.x Congratulations to Leenock and Polt though! MMA was an easy shoe-in.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
solidONE
Profile Joined August 2010
United States160 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 17:02:52
December 13 2011 16:58 GMT
#5725
How can people be literally "disgusted". Are you really sitting their in your chair feeling ill over this? Grow up, you're not disgusted. Every game he played that actually mattered was a beautiful display of talent with minor mistakes that cost him the game, not to mention the "disgusting wretched raunchy rotten" all-ins that he faced the entire time.

He got cheesed every game and he does a rush after nothing matters and you're all crying. That's ironic.

And how about the fact that on the producer side, it's a game that means nothing. If you wanted a true rematch between nestea and naniwa, you weren't going to get it from that when nothing is on the line after suffering such a mental loss after that. Koreans are saying that he's not even a pro-gamer when every single one of them on the planet would be pushed to the brink taking him in a straight-up game.

All these posts remind me of those kids that pretend that they're mad over stupid shit. "FUUUUUUUUUUUUU im raging so hard right now!!!! omfg so mad!!" when you're sitting in your chair stone-faced and slightly irritated. If you're truly "disgusted" by this then I'm at a loss for words.
Flowjo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States928 Posts
December 13 2011 17:04 GMT
#5726
On December 14 2011 01:58 solidONE wrote:
How can people be literally "disgusted". Are you really sitting their in your chair feeling ill over this? Grow up, you're not disgusted. Every game he played that actually mattered was a beautiful display of talent with minor mistakes that cost him the game, not to mention the "disgusting wretched raunchy rotten" all-ins that he faced the entire time.

He got cheesed every game and he does a rush after nothing matters and you're all crying. That's ironic.

And how about the fact that on the producer side, it's a game that means nothing. If you wanted a true rematch between nestea and naniwa, you weren't going to get it from that when nothing is on the line after suffering such a mental loss after that. Koreans are saying that he's not even a pro-gamer when every single one of them on the planet would be pushed to the brink taking him in a straight-up game.

All these posts remind me of those kids that pretend that they're mad over stupid shit. "FUUUUUUUUUUUUU im raging so hard right now!!!! omfg so mad!!" when you're sitting in your chair stone-faced and slightly irritated. If you're trying "disgusted" by this then I'm at a loss for words.


Trust me, I'm disgusted. It's a difference of culture that Naniwa didn't account for and it created a shitstorm. I truly believe he should have played that game out and that was my most anticpated game of the day.... even if it meant "nothing". It's obvious though that Naniwa plays solely for money and doesn't care about his team, the GSL itself, or his opponent.
IMNestea's biggest fan.
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
December 13 2011 17:04 GMT
#5727
So sad about nestea not making it through!!


Love this guy and he could take every single championship for all i care! :D
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
EKnaus
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
126 Posts
December 13 2011 17:06 GMT
#5728
I remember from a Dignitas video at MLG Dallas that Naniwa was more psyched about the trophy that had "Starcraft 2 Champion" engraved on it than the money he won. He was so happy with that trophy and when I saw that, I was a fan instantly. What happened?
chosenkerrigan
Profile Joined May 2011
858 Posts
December 13 2011 17:08 GMT
#5729
On December 13 2011 21:09 johanreidel wrote:
hahaha, love it. Giving the proverbial middle finger to the format.

To be honest I dont really see the difference between a 7 probe rush and the other cheese we have seen today so I don't get why people are flipping tables all around?


Other cheeses win the game, 7 probe rush lose the game.
And if you really honestly don't see the difference, you are in denial.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 17:09:45
December 13 2011 17:09 GMT
#5730
About Polt making it
About Nestea not making it.

Lol@ everybody who expected Polt to go 0-4

Poor Nani, will have to watch the Vods. Overall good day
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Cythe
Profile Joined May 2010
United States47 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 17:13:24
December 13 2011 17:12 GMT
#5731
Personally, I think Naniwa is a great player who just has some "mental bumps" that are part of his personality. This sort of thing has happened before, but it seems that because its either:
a. Such a prestigious tournament
b. Nestea's birthday
c. In Korea, therefore there are certain cultural changes
d. A game people were hoping to watch
.. that this turned into a shitstorm..

I mean Idra said it best and in true and awesome gracken fashion:
idrajit Greg Fields
dont have meaningless matches if you want players to take them seriously.
I don't think anyone should be surprised nor completely appalled by Naniwa's actions, of course it was "a little bit" blunt in how he played out that game, but when something like that happens, I'm sure it is difficult for players with that mentality and personality to think any other way.

Also, so happy for Polt showing those that doubted him, that he's still kickin.
Overall great matches, cant wait for Ro6 and Ro4!
Jaedong ^-^ MvP ^-^ Tastosis ^-^ SeleCT ^-^ EG ^-^ MKP ^-^ fbh ^-^
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
December 13 2011 17:13 GMT
#5732
Ugh Nestea is continuing to look relatively weak with those results. Polt showed he somewhat deserved the spot though, even though he will now get destroyed by MVP. I'm just glad MMA got first in his group. :D
vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
December 13 2011 17:13 GMT
#5733
Poor Polt. If he played vs MMA on any other map than Crossfire, he would've wiped the floor with MMA again. Crossfire gave MMA such an easy time turtling and Polt still made a game out of it. Now he has to play vs MVP
Marines > everything
pak150
Profile Joined September 2010
United States531 Posts
December 13 2011 17:14 GMT
#5734
On December 14 2011 01:40 Usagi wrote:
Have to love Wolf saying he would find apropiate 110% a 6 months ban for Naniwa, elitism to the max, lost quite some respect really, people in a position of power shouldnt say such things.

Where'd Wolf say this? I'd like to read it. Thanks
solidONE
Profile Joined August 2010
United States160 Posts
December 13 2011 17:14 GMT
#5735
On December 14 2011 02:04 Flowjo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 01:58 solidONE wrote:
How can people be literally "disgusted". Are you really sitting their in your chair feeling ill over this? Grow up, you're not disgusted. Every game he played that actually mattered was a beautiful display of talent with minor mistakes that cost him the game, not to mention the "disgusting wretched raunchy rotten" all-ins that he faced the entire time.

He got cheesed every game and he does a rush after nothing matters and you're all crying. That's ironic.

And how about the fact that on the producer side, it's a game that means nothing. If you wanted a true rematch between nestea and naniwa, you weren't going to get it from that when nothing is on the line after suffering such a mental loss after that. Koreans are saying that he's not even a pro-gamer when every single one of them on the planet would be pushed to the brink taking him in a straight-up game.

All these posts remind me of those kids that pretend that they're mad over stupid shit. "FUUUUUUUUUUUUU im raging so hard right now!!!! omfg so mad!!" when you're sitting in your chair stone-faced and slightly irritated. If you're trying "disgusted" by this then I'm at a loss for words.


Trust me, I'm disgusted. It's a difference of culture that Naniwa didn't account for and it created a shitstorm. I truly believe he should have played that game out and that was my most anticpated game of the day.... even if it meant "nothing". It's obvious though that Naniwa plays solely for money and doesn't care about his team, the GSL itself, or his opponent.



It's not that I don't understand the fact that this would be the most anticipated game for a lot of people. I really do understand that. But I mean it's frustrating to watch him get cheesed for his last 10 professional games, and still have the perserverance to show the amazing games through that. I really like Naniwa, and I want him to show me the best Starcraft he can whenever yet I'm more disappointed by the circumstances that he has to struggle through every time instead of how he reacts to it. Suffering through stupid play and then finally saying "fuck it" when it doesn't matter really doesn't surprise me. Athletes are always regarded to have their pride over everything else, when the behind the scenes in any sport obviously tells you otherwise. All they give a damn about is their money and contract opportunities. You always see worse play when nothing is the line no matter what it is. If he did some shitty, stupid all in to get it over with like a 4 gate would that make it better?

The shroud of professionalism and realism can be so thin sometimes. He didn't rage out publicly, talk shit to people, refuse to play the game which has happened at others events with other plays that didn't mean anything. He went in, made it short and just disregarded it as his personal drive wasn't there, and Naniwa has more of that than anyone.

As for the koreans saying he's no a pro-gamer soley off ethics, I understand that's a cultural thing and I can respect that. It's just really not that big of a deal in a fluff match. Tyler said it best. You see that type of behavior all the time from pros just playing a shitty game and tossing it real quick when it means nothing, he just didn't beat around the bush with it. I'm glad that he saved my time for the next match and gave me a good laugh in the process.
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
December 13 2011 17:16 GMT
#5736
On December 14 2011 02:09 windsupernova wrote:
About Polt making it
About Nestea not making it.

Lol@ everybody who expected Polt to go 0-4

Poor Nani, will have to watch the Vods. Overall good day

". . . Expect Naniwa to macro up to three bases and push . . ." Yeah, I was wrong in more than one way. Congrats on Polt making it through, I was on of those people who thought he'd go 0-4.
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
DSDSDS
Profile Joined December 2011
Burma18 Posts
December 13 2011 17:18 GMT
#5737
well ,just change the game name to Koreancraft or Starcorean
Hunterai
Profile Joined October 2010
Thailand842 Posts
December 13 2011 17:18 GMT
#5738
Well at least we are ensured of a non-mirror finals
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
December 13 2011 17:21 GMT
#5739
On December 14 2011 02:18 Hunterai wrote:
Well at least we are ensured of a non-mirror finals

ZvT or MCvT should be quite nice indeed.
ooozer
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany231 Posts
December 13 2011 17:23 GMT
#5740
This tournament's alomost over, terrans gonna win. I don't see MC beating a high lvl Zerg, even though i wish, I neither see MVP lose an BOX against somebody else besides MMA
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