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Anyone who continues this absolutely terrible off topic time of play debate from page 11 and onward will be banned. The same goes for the regular crowd of: -Balance whiners -Stream whiners -Event and caster bashers -HoN vs LoL vs Dota debaters Stick to the games and enjoy your free event. | ||
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On December 05 2011 04:14 Andrew2658 wrote: 10:45 PM isn't that late for east coast viewers. I have to wake up at 7 AM, and don't mind having to wait for a Bo7 to finish at around 1 or so. You are still under the asumption E-sport events start on time ? let alone finish at time ? haha come on, even for eastcoast these times are not for every one. | ||
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Turntablez
Sweden73 Posts
GSL is a monthly event, they have started the same time every single season past 5 months at least, people are aware of it. And thats the way GSL have choosen to scheulde their events. NASL is on their second season, their groupstages takes months to clear up, so this is more or less a "one time event" or "event on rare occansions" like Homestory Cup etc. If they want to make the maximal benifits they should have taken EU under consideration aswell when it comes to scheulde. But again, peoples "overall" feeling about NASL is far from good, so its not like a suprise they scheulde the grand final on such a stupid time. | ||
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Valikyr
Sweden2653 Posts
On December 05 2011 04:10 trias_e wrote: Now the Europeans know how Americans feel about GSL. Why do you have to start at the worst time imaginable!? That said, NASL up to this point has catered to Europeans, with their rebroadcasts and otherwise good start times. This time isn't even optimal for Americans as others have said. This is a bad decision by NASL and they are going to lose a big chunk of viewers for their grand final for little reason. Well when do u think it's on in EU? U still can't have school or a job to watch it live over here. I wonder if they could've chosen a worse time for the finals. It's not even a good time for all american timezones on a sunday. | ||
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aviator116
United States820 Posts
seriously, GSL starts at 4am, do you see any NA people complaining? no. so shut the fuck up and deal with it User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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A Wet Shamwow
United States1590 Posts
On December 05 2011 04:14 Andrew2658 wrote: 10:45 PM isn't that late for east coast viewers. I have to wake up at 7 AM, and don't mind having to wait for a Bo7 to finish at around 1 or so. That is great, but i can't see a majority of people feeling the same way. 11:45 plus any delays plus a bo7 is really late for anybody to stay up that has to get up early in the morning for work/school. | ||
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aviator116
United States820 Posts
On December 05 2011 04:19 Valikyr wrote: Well when do u think it's on in EU? U still can't have school or a job to watch it live over here. I wonder if they could've chosen a worse time for the finals. It's not even good for all american timezones on a sunday. LOL yes it is...perfect time for NA actually.which is why its called the NORTH AMERICAN starleague. go make your own euro star league if you can't handle it. | ||
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Logros
Netherlands9913 Posts
On December 05 2011 04:19 aviator116 wrote: LOL all these euro boys and girls complaining about the times...welcome to the world kids, where nothing is fair, and things don't have to go your way all the time. seriously, GSL starts at 4am, do you see any NA people complaining? no. so shut the fuck up and deal with it It's not really my problem, I will just watch MLG and Dreamhack and GSL etc.. It is the NASL's problem though, they're not even breaking 50k viewers. | ||
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ooozer
Germany231 Posts
On December 05 2011 04:10 trias_e wrote: Now the Europeans know how Americans feel about GSL. Why do you have to start at the worst time imaginable!? That said, NASL up to this point has catered to Europeans, with their rebroadcasts and otherwise good start times. This time isn't even optimal for Americans as others have said. This is a bad decision by NASL and they are going to lose a big chunk of viewers for their grand final for little reason. German here. GSL starts at 10 or 11 am in Germany (speaking of Code S, group stages) and lasts until 2 pm at worst. Watched the Nasl Ro8 and Semi-1 yesterday, started 9 or 10 pm i believe, first semi final ended around 4:30 am, maybe earlier. That's bs, considering it's weekend ( well i had nothing to do this weekend so np). Can't watch the grandfinals. This tourney is simply unwatchable for the majority of the fans i believe. Could've been better, but they didn't learn a thing from last season.. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On December 05 2011 04:09 TheSubtleArt wrote: Sure, but you can't deny taking other regions into account would be better for them overall.... They should, but not as priority. First comes the players, live crowd, and staff. Then comes the other timezones. PST will make it difficult for Europe no matter what. Its just how the world works. I think they could have started about 2 hours sooner, but that's still shit times for europe. | ||
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On December 05 2011 04:19 aviator116 wrote: LOL all these euro boys and girls complaining about the times...welcome to the world kids, where nothing is fair, and things don't have to go your way all the time. seriously, GSL starts at 4am, do you see any NA people complaining? no. so shut the fuck up and deal with it I see a guy like you planning the times of NASL, you sure got us ! | ||
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Tofugrinder
Austria899 Posts
3rd Place Match 02:15 CET (+01:00) you really want people not watching, do you? | ||
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Dispersion
Korea (South)504 Posts
On December 05 2011 04:21 ooozer wrote: German here. GSL starts at 10 or 11 am in Germany (speaking of Code S, group stages) and lasts until 2 pm at worst. Watched the Nasl Ro8 and Semi-1 yesterday, started 9 or 10 pm i believe, first semi final ended around 4:30 am, maybe earlier. That's bs, considering it's weekend ( well i had nothing to do this weekend so np). Can't watch the grandfinals. This tourney is simply unwatchable for the majority of the fans i believe. Could've been better, but they didn't learn a thing from last season.. Majority of the fans? It's the North American Star League, so I'm sure "most" of the fans are in the US watching at no more than 3 hours ahead of local time in California. | ||
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Slike
Greece127 Posts
On December 05 2011 04:20 aviator116 wrote: LOL yes it is...perfect time for NA actually.which is why its called the NORTH AMERICAN starleague. go make your own euro star league if you can't handle it. Yeah because if tournaments are named after a region they obviously dont give a fuck about other region fans , lol great argument. | ||
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TheSubtleArt
Canada2527 Posts
On December 05 2011 04:20 aviator116 wrote: LOL yes it is...perfect time for NA actually.which is why its called the NORTH AMERICAN starleague. go make your own euro star league if you can't handle it. Yea, its the NASL so they have every right to schedule it when they did... still doesn't change the fact that it was a dumb fucking decision. For a league thats barely staying afloat, alienating a significant portion of the audience on the event's final day is incredibly stupid and detrimental to the league's success overall. So yea, maybe if people complain they can fix it for next season and enjoy larger viewer numbers. Or people can stay silent and the NASL repeats the same mistake next year right? Seriously it\s not like everyone here wants the NASL to fail, but they will if they continue making blunders like this and staying silent won't help anyone. | ||
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tnud
Sweden2233 Posts
On December 05 2011 04:24 Dispersion wrote: Majority of the fans? It's the North American Star League, so I'm sure "most" of the fans are in the US watching at no more than 3 hours ahead of local time in California. So many americans left in the top 4 too right.. It's a stupid decision, you should always try to have as large an audience that you can. Always. | ||
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A Wet Shamwow
United States1590 Posts
On December 05 2011 04:24 Slike wrote: Yeah because if tournaments are named after a region they obviously dont give a fuck about other region fans , lol great argument. The arguement makes even more sense when you consider the GLOBAL starcraft 2 league being hard to watch in most of the world. | ||
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superjoppe
Sweden3682 Posts
On December 05 2011 04:24 Dispersion wrote: Majority of the fans? It's the North American Star League, so I'm sure "most" of the fans are in the US watching at no more than 3 hours ahead of local time in California. Why would more fans be american? It's just the freaking name of the tournament. | ||
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Logros
Netherlands9913 Posts
On December 05 2011 04:23 jmbthirteen wrote: They should, but not as priority. First comes the players, live crowd, and staff. Then comes the other timezones. PST will make it difficult for Europe no matter what. Its just how the world works. I think they could have started about 2 hours sooner, but that's still shit times for europe. MLG manages fine, their finals usually start around 1-2 am which is something I will stay up for. They don't have to change their entire schedule just to accomodate 1 time zone but some small changes would give them a lot more EU viewers. | ||
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Turntablez
Sweden73 Posts
On December 05 2011 04:24 Dispersion wrote: Majority of the fans? It's the North American Star League, so I'm sure "most" of the fans are in the US watching at no more than 3 hours ahead of local time in California. Yea, sorry this is the "North American Star Leauge". Thats why there is 2 American players, and 1 from Canada (HuK not counted because he lives in Korea) in the Playoffs. Out of 16 players. Edit: Typo | ||
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trias_e
United States520 Posts
On December 05 2011 04:26 superjoppe wrote: Why would more fans be american? It's just the freaking name of the tournament. Lol, seriously. I think he may have been being facetious though, but I can't tell. | ||
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