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Anyone who continues this absolutely terrible off topic time of play debate from page 11 and onward will be banned. The same goes for the regular crowd of: -Balance whiners -Stream whiners -Event and caster bashers -HoN vs LoL vs Dota debaters Stick to the games and enjoy your free event. | ||
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Hagg
Sweden27 Posts
You do have the option to get VODs for a mere $10, and an event in CA WILL be at an awkward time for europe (and probably even east-coast US). If they were to take Europe into consideration they would have no live audience whatsoever, people aren't generally excited about asc2 final before breakfast. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On December 05 2011 04:21 Logros wrote: It's not really my problem, I will just watch MLG and Dreamhack and GSL etc.. It is the NASL's problem though, they're not even breaking 50k viewers. And wwhen mlg is in Anaheim again you will be screwed. Expecting a tournament on the west coast of the united states to work for people in Europe is unrealistic | ||
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MVTaylor
United Kingdom2893 Posts
On December 05 2011 04:26 A Wet Shamwow wrote: The arguement makes even more sense when you consider the GLOBAL starcraft 2 league being hard to watch in most of the world. Actually the GSL is fine to watch in everywhere that's not the americas... Oh shit i forgot by most of the world you mean USA USA USA USA USA User was warned for this post | ||
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Marke
Sweden279 Posts
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mememolly
4765 Posts
On December 05 2011 04:23 jmbthirteen wrote: I think they could have started about 2 hours sooner, but that's still shit times for europe. would still be watchable though, Euros aren't asking for it to be scheduled exactly for them, just something reasonable for everyone so that the audience is at the highest it can be, why a business wouldn't want this I dont know but then again its not the first questionable decision NASL have made | ||
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Slike
Greece127 Posts
On December 05 2011 04:26 A Wet Shamwow wrote: The arguement makes even more sense when you consider the GLOBAL starcraft 2 league being hard to watch in most of the world. I was actually making fun of the fact that the regional name means shit , everyone wants every fan they can get. I can assure you GSL would alter their times if they thought more fans could follow. I mean I dont ask for something extreme but make it a bit earlier... Late is fine , I stay up every time US tournaments are off but this is at 7-8 am for me and 5-6 am for rest of europe... | ||
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McFeser
United States2458 Posts
On December 05 2011 04:26 superjoppe wrote: Why would more fans be american? It's just the freaking name of the tournament. What time should the NASL air out of curiousity for it to be comfortable for you? I think I missed the first two groups of Dreamhack where I live (Same timezone as California) so I would have prefered it to air about 2 hours later. It wasn't a big deal for me, but I don't see any reason that NASL shouldn't air at a time friendlier for you guys. It's good business. Edit: some guys said two hours earlier would be better for. I'd be perfectly fine with that (In fact I'd like it better). Waking up to Starcraft 2 is awesome, as is watching it with a warm cup of coffee. Also to keep in mind, Championship Sunday for MLG start at 9 oclock (Whereas NASL is starting at 12 oclock on the west coast). | ||
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Grettin
42394 Posts
On December 05 2011 04:28 mvtaylor wrote: Actually the GSL is fine to watch in everywhere that's not the americas... Oh shit i forgot by most of the world you mean USA USA USA USA USA I don't know about that, Some might have trouble watching it if you live in Europe. School, work.. | ||
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mememolly
4765 Posts
On December 05 2011 04:27 Hagg wrote: If they were to take Europe into consideration they would have no live audience whatsoever, people aren't generally excited about asc2 final before breakfast. 2 hours earlier wouldn't make that much difference | ||
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Sea_Food
Finland1612 Posts
On December 05 2011 04:27 Hagg wrote: Jesus christ, stop whining about the time being bad allready. You do have the option to get VODs for a mere $10, and an event in CA WILL be at an awkward time for europe (and probably even east-coast US). If they were to take Europe into consideration they would have no live audience whatsoever, people aren't generally excited about asc2 final before breakfast. Last season the hall was packed when the final game started 6 hours earlier. | ||
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Usagi
Spain1647 Posts
NASL wants to kill me right? not enough monster stored  | ||
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MVTaylor
United Kingdom2893 Posts
On December 05 2011 04:30 Grettin wrote: I don't know about that, Some might have trouble watching it if you live in Europe. School, work.. We are talking about the FINALS I don't think the majority of people work or go to school at 9am on a Saturday | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On December 05 2011 04:19 aviator116 wrote: LOL all these euro boys and girls complaining about the times...welcome to the world kids, where nothing is fair, and things don't have to go your way all the time. seriously, GSL starts at 4am, do you see any NA people complaining? no. so shut the fuck up and deal with it The GSL has also been going for months and months and people have gotten used to it. Add to that the guaranteed (relative) quality of the GSL... I'm rather impressed with what NASL has put together for this weekend, actually, but scheduling the finals like this is a mistake or an intentional move to alienate their european watchers. | ||
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A Wet Shamwow
United States1590 Posts
On December 05 2011 04:29 Slike wrote: I was actually making fun of the fact that the regional name means shit , everyone wants every fan they can get. I can assure you GSL would alter their times if they thought more fans could follow. I mean I dont ask for something extreme but make it a bit earlier... Late is fine , I stay up every time US tournaments are off but this is at 7-8 am for me and 5-6 am for rest of europe... Oh no i think that the GSL's times are fine, i was saying the argument that leagues should be timed according to their names wasnt true. I have a problem with NASL because they are making it hard for at least half of their viewership to watch their finals. | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On December 05 2011 04:26 Logros wrote: MLG manages fine, their finals usually start around 1-2 am which is something I will stay up for. They don't have to change their entire schedule just to accomodate 1 time zone but some small changes would give them a lot more EU viewers. And MLG was usually held in EST, 3 hours ahead of where NASL is. When mlg was in anaheim, similar problems arose. | ||
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Grettin
42394 Posts
On December 05 2011 04:31 mvtaylor wrote: We are talking about the FINALS I don't think the majority of people work or go to school at 9am on a Saturday Oh, my bad. Didn't read that carefully! You are absolutely right. | ||
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extropy
United States37 Posts
On December 05 2011 04:26 Logros wrote: MLG manages fine, their finals usually start around 1-2 am which is something I will stay up for. They don't have to change their entire schedule just to accomodate 1 time zone but some small changes would give them a lot more EU viewers. In fairness, most MLG events aren't on the west coast. MLG Anaheim was on the west coast and its grand finals started only 45 minutes earlier. | ||
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mitthrawn
Germany443 Posts
On December 05 2011 04:19 aviator116 wrote: LOL all these euro boys and girls complaining about the times...welcome to the world kids, where nothing is fair, and things don't have to go your way all the time. seriously, GSL starts at 4am, do you see any NA people complaining? no. so shut the fuck up and deal with it GSL is not NASL. GSL starts for the EU at around 11:00am (CET), so unless you are a student or have no job, you can't watch it. But GSL is a polished product and many people happily paying 10$ bucks for the VODs. NASL is medicore at best, you would be dump to pay for VODs. So instead of getting more people to watch the finals live, making money from ads and maybe getting people hooked to a flawed product, they are pissing off a good bunch of people (read: all of EU). Do you still believe the complains from the EU fans are unreasonable when even for the East Coast guys the finals start at 10:00pm? | ||
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ellirc
Sweden3286 Posts
On December 05 2011 04:27 Hagg wrote: Jesus christ, stop whining about the time being bad allready. You do have the option to get VODs for a mere $10, and an event in CA WILL be at an awkward time for europe (and probably even east-coast US). If they were to take Europe into consideration they would have no live audience whatsoever, people aren't generally excited about asc2 final before breakfast. Agreed. Fucking whiners/haters, FUCK YOU. ____________________ I look forward to everything today  Can't wait for Bitterdam to cast Thorzain :D :D :D | ||
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