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[NASL] S2 Grand Finals Day 3 - Page 218

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Anyone who continues this absolutely terrible off topic time of play debate from page 11 and onward will be banned.

The same goes for the regular crowd of:

-Balance whiners
-Stream whiners
-Event and caster bashers
-HoN vs LoL vs Dota debaters

Stick to the games and enjoy your free event.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 10:28:05
December 05 2011 10:21 GMT
#4341
Damn, both my favourites lost =(

Did ThorZaIN put up much of a fight?
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
December 05 2011 10:22 GMT
#4342
On December 05 2011 19:13 ICarrotU wrote:
Just got back from the finals, being a spectator at the event for both seasons, I was blown away by the production value this time around. They really listened to the criticisms of both spectators and players. I honestly feel bad for those that decided not to go because of a lack of crowd, production value, koreans etc. I'm sure those people would have been pleasantly surprised by how great the finals were. I can't wait to see what they have up their sleeve for next season and how much they improve, already ready to buy my season 3 pass.

Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 19:06 Chicane wrote:Those aren't my only comments, but I doubt this will even be read by anyone from the NASL to begin with so... oh well. I didn't see a feedback thread so I figured I would post this here. I really do hope the NASL came come forward as a reliable league in time, but they have a ways to go.


If you have any suggestions or criticism, you could always pm their account here on TL or contact them at their website here. Honestly, all this talk about the growth of e-sports and how things are hurting e-sports, but the community still seems to care less about improving the number and quality of tournaments and more about vilifying the ones starting out, it's really quite a shame. Rome wasn't built in a day, this is still year 1 for this organization.


Well I kind of agree with your last statement, and I kind of disagree.

On one hand, it really seems like many people were giving NASL a bunch of undeserved crap. Many continued to be very harsh through the event even though it was going pretty well.

On the other hand, they need to be called out for their mistakes, and it won't always be packaged so nicely when people are in the middle of watching a tournament with bad sound quality, after the last one had trouble.

And of course the last thing to consider is that there is a wide scope of different opinions. There are many loud people who make it seem like there are so many people hating on the NASL, but in the end I think most people don't hate it and are willing to support it so long as they fix their problems. However if they don't fix their problems and improve over time (which they seem to be doing slowly), many people--including myself--think they should go away. It is up to them to be a presentable and sustainable league, but all the fans have to do is support it if they like it.
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
December 05 2011 10:29 GMT
#4343
So how were the finals? Cheesefest from puma as usually?

User was temp banned for this post.
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
ICarrotU
Profile Joined February 2011
United States254 Posts
December 05 2011 10:31 GMT
#4344
On December 05 2011 19:18 ceaRshaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
If you have any suggestions or criticism, you could always pm their account here on TL or contact them at their website here. Honestly, all this talk about the growth of e-sports and how things are hurting e-sports, but the community still seems to care less about improving the number and quality of tournaments and more about vilifying the ones starting out, it's really quite a shame. Rome wasn't built in a day, this is still year 1 for this organization.


Yeah but in these days Shangai was built extremely fast after comunism because you don't need to reinvent the wheel with every city.

With so many successful tournaments out there there is no excuse for the bad ones, especially with such large budget. Sorry, but it's season 2 already and they are still bad. In times of IPL,MLG,GSL and DH I have no mercy for the bad tournaments cause i really don't have any reasons to do so.


I understand your sentiments, and if you don't want to watch it, that's cool and I respect that. I don't want to argue about the event and stuff in this thread, so all I'm gonna say is keep in mind that MLG, GSL, DH and IPL have all been running or been run by companies that have been around for 10+ years, and have either the capital or the long trial and error record compared to an organization that started out of pocket less than a full year ago. In my opinion, they're doing amazing and with constructive criticism and feedback, they'll continue to improve.
escobari
Profile Joined July 2010
Finland192 Posts
December 05 2011 10:53 GMT
#4345
I dreamed I was in kebab place waiting for my food forever, until I just left without paying. Then I get call from police named Puma (showed caller on my phone) - woke up and knew Puma had won :p
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
December 05 2011 11:02 GMT
#4346
On December 05 2011 19:21 hugman wrote:
Damn, both my favourites lost =(

Did ThorZaIN put up much of a fight?


He messed up the first game but other than that he did well. It was a really entertaining TvZ series imo.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
December 05 2011 11:06 GMT
#4347
On December 05 2011 19:29 ondik wrote:
So how were the finals? Cheesefest from puma as usually?


As usually? rofl.

I'm also interested how the games were. Grats to Puma though.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 11:11:32
December 05 2011 11:10 GMT
#4348
On December 05 2011 18:57 Titorelli wrote:
So how did the games go? Did Puma cheese once again?

Not really. Did a 2 base all in in game 4 I believe (a 2-2-2 pretty much) but it was a sick game That ended with 15 supply to 11 or something close. Other than that were 2 base fast ghost or just Bio with 2 rax pressure.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Yomi-no-Kuni
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany333 Posts
December 05 2011 11:13 GMT
#4349
wow, the rivalry between hero and puma is the best storyline in SC2 so far :D
i love it

also: go hero to bad
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
December 05 2011 11:23 GMT
#4350
On December 05 2011 20:13 Yomi-no-Kuni wrote:
wow, the rivalry between hero and puma is the best storyline in SC2 so far :D
i love it

also: go hero to bad


I don't know, I don't really feel it. I think I'm more of a HuK vs MC guy myself.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
December 05 2011 11:32 GMT
#4351
On December 05 2011 20:06 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 19:29 ondik wrote:
So how were the finals? Cheesefest from puma as usually?


As usually? rofl.

I'm also interested how the games were. Grats to Puma though.


why rofl? Is puma known for his brilliant lategame play and brilliant macro or for timing pushes and allins?
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
Radook
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden326 Posts
December 05 2011 11:35 GMT
#4352
woohoo my favorite player won another tournament! \o/
Woop Woop!
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
December 05 2011 11:42 GMT
#4353
what was the viewer count?
Hardigan
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1297 Posts
December 05 2011 11:43 GMT
#4354
On December 05 2011 20:32 ondik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 20:06 Grettin wrote:
On December 05 2011 19:29 ondik wrote:
So how were the finals? Cheesefest from puma as usually?


As usually? rofl.

I'm also interested how the games were. Grats to Puma though.


why rofl? Is puma known for his brilliant lategame play and brilliant macro or for timing pushes and allins?

well yeah he is. Puma has like the best army control at least in nasl.
And i find it funny that when a fan favorit cheese it's called "aggresive play" but when the other one sees an oppening in the beginning to punish greedy play, it is called cheese.
marknb
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada6 Posts
December 05 2011 11:45 GMT
#4355
On December 05 2011 20:42 mememolly wrote:
what was the viewer count?

A little north of 50k.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
December 05 2011 11:46 GMT
#4356
On December 05 2011 20:32 ondik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2011 20:06 Grettin wrote:
On December 05 2011 19:29 ondik wrote:
So how were the finals? Cheesefest from puma as usually?


As usually? rofl.

I'm also interested how the games were. Grats to Puma though.


why rofl? Is puma known for his brilliant lategame play and brilliant macro or for timing pushes and allins?


Have you seen his previous matches? Yes, he does 1-1-1 from time to time or use a timing attack, but who wouldn't? The word you chose, "cheesefest as usually" is actually ridiculous. Watch the damn games and you'll see that he is more than just an all-in/timing push guy.

Despite the favorite lost this time, stop the fucking hating and open your eyes.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Jomppa
Profile Joined July 2011
1225 Posts
December 05 2011 11:50 GMT
#4357
Is there gonna be free vods of the day9 daily?
Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 11:53:24
December 05 2011 11:52 GMT
#4358
Oh well, failed at waking up, Watching vods just isn't the same

Grats to the winner, better luck next time to all the losers.
ISeriousNow
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom63 Posts
December 05 2011 12:07 GMT
#4359
is there no way to watch the vods unless you have payed?
thanks in advance
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
December 05 2011 12:10 GMT
#4360
On December 05 2011 21:07 ISeriousNow wrote:
is there no way to watch the vods unless you have payed?
thanks in advance


Nope. Sorry.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
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