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Here we go again. This weekend is about good games and good fun. Don't rain on that parade. Play nice guys. Here's the very standard and friendly:

- NO Balance Whine.
- NO Player Bashing.
- NO Caster Bashing.
- NO BM whatsoever.

Breaking these rules (from pg 166 forward) will be met with severe punishment.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
November 20 2011 23:23 GMT
#11601
On November 21 2011 08:22 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 08:20 Ruscour wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:20 Sc2ggRise wrote:
soooo when are we going to stop calling ourselves foreigners, especially when we're the ones hosting the tourney?!

Never. Korea has by far the biggest scene and the best players. Unless that changes and a massive cultural shift happens somewhere else, it will never change.

Korea is NOT the biggest scene for SC2. Not yet. It's just the best.

It's by far the biggest scene. We don't see enough of it here, but having a complete infrastructure around it instantly makes it larger than the disorganized foreigner scene. The fact that foreigners need to go to korea to become truly competitive just comes to show that the scene is better, and bigger.
quancer
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada161 Posts
November 20 2011 23:23 GMT
#11602
On November 21 2011 08:20 eYeball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 08:18 quancer wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:15 KimJongChill wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:14 StarStruck wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:12 Holgerius wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:09 StarStruck wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:08 lolnoty wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:07 JohnMatrix wrote:
so is Naniwa is the best foreigner ?


TL literally can't go 3 minutes without attempting to rank players.


I don't know why people care so much about ranking them either. What do you get from it?

It's a fun topic of discussion.



It's also futile as the very topic is fickle.


it's also fun because we are starcraft fans and this is what sports fans do.


Think of how annoying and stupid the average sports fan is. Is it really such a nice thing that esports fans are becoming similar?


I feel it is kind of bound to happen as it grows larger, more newcomers get into it. In my opinion it wasn't like this at the beginning, but that's just my thoughts.


I agree. It's inevitable and a sign that esports is rapidly growing. It's just so goddamn annoying sometimes.
MVP, Polt, Supernova, Losira, Leenock, Morrow
EEhantiming
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada519 Posts
November 20 2011 23:23 GMT
#11603
guarantee PvZ finals :D:D:D
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
November 20 2011 23:24 GMT
#11604
Yup, this one's for Naniwa. The extended series rule has already decided the title.
Nosferatos
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway783 Posts
November 20 2011 23:24 GMT
#11605
2-0 will be hard for leenock to come back from.
"Show me the Raven" ~ HMS turns into a mini-nuke, going twice as fast and doing 250 damage over a large area.
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
November 20 2011 23:24 GMT
#11606
On November 21 2011 08:23 zyzq wrote:
A finals without MVP in it? is this real life?


A finals with a foreigner when all the best koreans are attending is more astonishing to me.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
November 20 2011 23:24 GMT
#11607
On November 21 2011 08:14 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 08:12 Holgerius wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:09 StarStruck wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:08 lolnoty wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:07 JohnMatrix wrote:
so is Naniwa is the best foreigner ?


TL literally can't go 3 minutes without attempting to rank players.


I don't know why people care so much about ranking them either. What do you get from it?

It's a fun topic of discussion.



It's also futile as the very topic is fickle.

You could make the argument that any discussion is futile, you could make the argument that anything we ever do on this planet is futile, at least from a philosophical perspective. Some people just think it's fun to talk about it though, even if there's no real point of it.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Scribble
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2077 Posts
November 20 2011 23:24 GMT
#11608
On November 21 2011 08:15 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 08:13 lololol wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:12 Mordiford wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:09 diophan wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:08 Mordiford wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:05 Demonaz wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:04 ComplexConf wrote:
ACtually its drg vs leenock now right, so naniwa can still meet drg in the final..


Praying for Leenock to win so we have a proper final!


Leenock would still have to win two Bo3's while Naniwa would have to win one. MLG uses a proper implementation of double elimination, that's how it works.


What? MLG has never worked like that. They just put Nani up 2 games in a BO7.


They've always worked like that, if a player has not encountered another player, the Winner's Bracket finalist has to win 1 Bo3 while the Loser's Bracket finalist has to win 2 Bo3s, that's how double elimination works. That's what happened with MMA vs MVP.


Nope, it's an extended series and Nani is already up 2-0.


If they havnt met yet in the grand finals the player from the winners side only has to win 1 bo3 whereas the player from the losers has to win 2. Its the standard format for double elimination tournaments.


So the finals really are still gonna be Bo3? Ouch. That is a hype-crusher.
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
November 20 2011 23:24 GMT
#11609
On November 21 2011 08:21 Redmark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 08:17 fraktoasters wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:08 Corrupted wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:06 Koshi wrote:
Naniwa got this. Extended series fucking this up. Next 2 matches will sstart with 2-0...


Yep, it is as much a disgrace as it was when they announced they were keeping it for this year. Impressive when you intentionally ruin your own tournaments with your dumbass rules.


Doesn't matter. Normal double elimination rules already ruined the finals no matter what.

Because GSL finals have all been great and MLG finals have all been bad.

I'm against extended series, but only because I feel it doesn't make sense. How good a match is depends on a lot of things, not just format.


Normal double elim finals have the person from the LB needing to win 2 Bo3's while the person from the WB only needs to win one
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
November 20 2011 23:24 GMT
#11610
Hwanni so good. Looks professional acts preofessional etc etc. Great job MLG.
Zalithian
Profile Joined June 2011
520 Posts
November 20 2011 23:24 GMT
#11611
DRG is an example of "playful/non serious BM"
Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
November 20 2011 23:24 GMT
#11612
On November 21 2011 08:22 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 08:20 Ruscour wrote:
On November 21 2011 08:20 Sc2ggRise wrote:
soooo when are we going to stop calling ourselves foreigners, especially when we're the ones hosting the tourney?!

Never. Korea has by far the biggest scene and the best players. Unless that changes and a massive cultural shift happens somewhere else, it will never change.

Korea is NOT the biggest scene for SC2. Not yet. It's just the best.


You do realize they have local tournaments we don't get to see? Also a shit ton of players we don't get to see.
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
SC2Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2814 Posts
November 20 2011 23:24 GMT
#11613
On November 21 2011 08:23 Jyvblamo wrote:
Hwanni is a class act.
This. Iam glad they hired him for MLG, he was always the best translator :D
Who the fuck has a family of fucking trees? This song is so god damn stupid. Fuck you song, fuck you and your stupid trees. -itmeJP
Weson
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Iceland1032 Posts
November 20 2011 23:24 GMT
#11614
I dont know korean byt this translator seems to be doing a great job. Anyone that can confirm?
"!@€#" - as some guy said
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
November 20 2011 23:24 GMT
#11615
I'm actually really impressed with Naniwa's PvZ.

For some reason, a lot of Toss' are trying to get cute against zerg with early stargate openings, but Naniwa is keeping it real with a sturdy and well-controlled deathball.

I'm really not sure why Toss moved away from the two-three base deathball anyway.
Milvus
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland400 Posts
November 20 2011 23:24 GMT
#11616

Because GSL finals have all been great and MLG finals have all been bad.


Are you freaking serious? I mean I get your point about extended series, but the GSL has had its fair amount of bad finals as well.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 20 2011 23:24 GMT
#11617
On November 21 2011 08:23 Zarahtra wrote:
Kinda surprising that DRG would be rooting for Leenock rather than Nani if he had won Nani



It's a Korean thing, hence Korean Hope!
hewley
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1063 Posts
November 20 2011 23:24 GMT
#11618
Hwanni looking slick.
Esports bubble pop, bubble pop
Quiescence
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada33 Posts
November 20 2011 23:24 GMT
#11619
god awful extended series rule, always anti-climatic during the heavy weight matches. :S
Ksi
Profile Joined May 2010
357 Posts
November 20 2011 23:24 GMT
#11620
On November 21 2011 08:23 Grend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 08:20 Sc2ggRise wrote:
soooo when are we going to stop calling ourselves foreigners, especially when we're the ones hosting the tourney?!


I guess the monikers westerners or whites are a bit bad taste and quite fragmenting..
It is still the World vs Korea. Worlders? Non-koreans?


I always use the term non-koreans. Foreigner always seemed so self depreciating.
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