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aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
November 20 2011 04:56 GMT
#12981
huks chance of winning again is looking pretty good right now.
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
November 20 2011 04:56 GMT
#12982
On November 20 2011 13:54 pdd wrote:
Naniwa's tweets:

"I must have formulated myself badly in the interviews I did not mean to call nestea bad. Or. An idiot watch next col iview. . ."

"He said he would smash me before the game so that's why I wanted to do something funny. Also sry @MLG I felt very pressured ."

Good apology. Look, what he did was pretty inexcusable, but the community has forgiven worse for others who never apologized.
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ZorBa.G
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia279 Posts
November 20 2011 04:58 GMT
#12983
It was quiet obvious how pressured Naniwa looked. Although this behaviour is unacceptable... It's forgivable.
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
November 20 2011 04:59 GMT
#12984
who is still in the tourny?
BBMorti
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark242 Posts
November 20 2011 05:00 GMT
#12985
On November 20 2011 13:54 pdd wrote:
Naniwa's tweets:

"I must have formulated myself badly in the interviews I did not mean to call nestea bad. Or. An idiot watch next col iview. . ."

"He said he would smash me before the game so that's why I wanted to do something funny. Also sry @MLG I felt very pressured ."


Such a shame he had to mention this, because of all these intellectual ragers.. gj to the people tying to defend him even though it was an uneven battle. mainly in rationality.
Dundron2000
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1140 Posts
November 20 2011 05:00 GMT
#12986
the thing i dont get is how Naniwa can be so crushingly self critical of all his losses and then switches to utter hubris after 2 series vs MVP and Nestea.. its like there is no middle ground what so ever.

and cue the Complexity damage control...

on the plus side ive never been so into a match as the 2nd nestea/nani, hope tomorrow keeps these awesome games going!
n.Die_Jaedong
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
November 20 2011 05:00 GMT
#12987
gogogo casters
PhotographerLiquipedia. Drop me a pm if you've got questions/need help.
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
November 20 2011 05:00 GMT
#12988
On November 20 2011 13:58 ZorBa.G wrote:
It was quiet obvious how pressured Naniwa looked. Although this behaviour is unacceptable... It's forgivable.

How is it unacceptable? I simply don't understand. If this was IdrA, people would be lapping it up...
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
November 20 2011 05:00 GMT
#12989
update liquipedia with results yo
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Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 05:01:54
November 20 2011 05:01 GMT
#12990
On November 20 2011 13:52 Azarkon wrote:
The dust settles, and two foreigners remain in the WB. IdrA can't seem to hang with the new Protoss meta-game, not that his ZvP was ever stellar. Unfortunate that he had to face MC instead of MVP, but there's still the chance that he might face MVP in the LB.

Naniwa and HuK have carried the foreigner torch forward this tournament, though in different fashions. The first has become the new face of BM. The second is an old crowd favorite. In terms of achievements, Naniwa has achieved much more this MLG - beating MVP, Nestea, and then Nestea again (for a record of 4-2) is not something any other foreigner can boast. As much notoriety as Naniwa might have gained for his actions in-between games, the man deserves credit for showing that no, he is not going to become just another foreigner victim in a sea of foreigner victims. He wants it all.

Meanwhile, the favorites from IM, Nestea and MVP, have both been sent to the LB. That this would happen, and via foreigners in the case of Nestea, was almost unthinkable prior to the tournament. But now it is a reality - though no doubt helped by the seeding system that gave them ample time to prepare, whereas Nestea and MVP had to slug it through the OB, one foreigner has risen to the greatest challenge of them all... And triumphed.

Pity that he had to wreck his reputation on the exact same day.

But hey, Naniwa is what he is. Accept him, reject him, hate him, love him, this tournament thus far has been his story.


u talk as if Naniwa and Huk is somewhat sooo gooooddd
if foreigners that good, then why's no one ever through the second round of Code A ?!

only Huk able do that, after he's multiple tries


foreigner won because this is "their" tournament
their rules, their turf, system, etc
the fact that only Huk (and jinro, and arguably idra) can last in korean turf, but NEVER won a single cup
is a fact that foreginer only won because this is "their" tournament

korean come being jet lagged, crawling from open bracket, with maximum a week of training (due to GSL)
but foreigner came to GSL with everything set
they came more than 3 days before the match (citation needed), they know the opponent, has the same preparation time
the same thing goes for GSL World Championship

u saw the IPL KoTH like clan war ?
no one gets even near slayers B teamers
thou i'd like to see how EG (arguably the best foreigner team) has their chances against them


they can have the throphy, but NOT YET the acknowledgement
-Terran-
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
November 20 2011 05:01 GMT
#12991

On November 20 2011 13:18 Toppp wrote:

Apparently NanIwa hosted the wrong map and blamed the admins for it and called the tournament a joke, delaying the broadcast.

NanIwa comes off as a arrogant, bitter person to alot of people ( me included ) because of the childish way he acts. He's very good but if he want's to be respected by most, he needs to grow up, it's not really just this one thing but the way his attitude in general.



But he is already respected by who actually matters.
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
OMGKEI
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia590 Posts
November 20 2011 05:01 GMT
#12992
Can someone link me the video or interview where naniwa said nestea was an idiot? The interview on mlg didn't seem too harsh.
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 05:02:45
November 20 2011 05:02 GMT
#12993
On November 20 2011 14:00 Ruscour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 13:58 ZorBa.G wrote:
It was quiet obvious how pressured Naniwa looked. Although this behaviour is unacceptable... It's forgivable.

How is it unacceptable? I simply don't understand. If this was IdrA, people would be lapping it up...


I personally don't remember idra BM someone after he won, and even idra would not target giants with alot of fans such as nestea or mvp
Resolve
Profile Joined August 2010
Singapore679 Posts
November 20 2011 05:02 GMT
#12994
On November 20 2011 14:01 Vertical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 13:52 Azarkon wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
The dust settles, and two foreigners remain in the WB. IdrA can't seem to hang with the new Protoss meta-game, not that his ZvP was ever stellar. Unfortunate that he had to face MC instead of MVP, but there's still the chance that he might face MVP in the LB.

Naniwa and HuK have carried the foreigner torch forward this tournament, though in different fashions. The first has become the new face of BM. The second is an old crowd favorite. In terms of achievements, Naniwa has achieved much more this MLG - beating MVP, Nestea, and then Nestea again (for a record of 4-2) is not something any other foreigner can boast. As much notoriety as Naniwa might have gained for his actions in-between games, the man deserves credit for showing that no, he is not going to become just another foreigner victim in a sea of foreigner victims. He wants it all.

Meanwhile, the favorites from IM, Nestea and MVP, have both been sent to the LB. That this would happen, and via foreigners in the case of Nestea, was almost unthinkable prior to the tournament. But now it is a reality - though no doubt helped by the seeding system that gave them ample time to prepare, whereas Nestea and MVP had to slug it through the OB, one foreigner has risen to the greatest challenge of them all... And triumphed.

Pity that he had to wreck his reputation on the exact same day.

But hey, Naniwa is what he is. Accept him, reject him, hate him, love him, this tournament thus far has been his story.


+ Show Spoiler +
u talk as if Naniwa and Huk is somewhat sooo gooooddd
if foreigners that good, then why's no one ever through the second round of Code A ?!

only Huk able do that, after he's multiple tries


foreigner won because this is "their" tournament
their rules, their turf, system, etc
the fact that only Huk (and jinro, and arguably idra) can last in korean turf, but NEVER won a single cup
is a fact that foreginer only won because this is "their" tournament

korean come being jet lagged, crawling from open bracket, with maximum a week of training (due to GSL)
but foreigner came to GSL with everything set
they came more than 3 days before the match (citation needed), they know the opponent, has the same preparation time
the same thing goes for GSL World Championship

u saw the IPL KoTH like clan war ?
no one gets even near slayers B teamers
thou i'd like to see how EG (arguably the best foreigner team) has their chances against them

Did Naniwa/Huk/Idra come from Korea just like all the (other, lol) koreans?
ellirc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3286 Posts
November 20 2011 05:02 GMT
#12995
On November 20 2011 13:56 DamageControL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 13:54 pdd wrote:
Naniwa's tweets:

"I must have formulated myself badly in the interviews I did not mean to call nestea bad. Or. An idiot watch next col iview. . ."

"He said he would smash me before the game so that's why I wanted to do something funny. Also sry @MLG I felt very pressured ."

Good apology. Look, what he did was pretty inexcusable, but the community has forgiven worse for others who never apologized.

Obviously he was under immense pressure being on stage against Nestea, expecially with yesterday's win in mind. Nani is so focused on winning and probably have pretty bad tunnel vision when he is "in the zone". It's not an excuse for saying MLG is a joke, but an explanation. The whole "thumbs down is bm" is just ridiculous imo since there obviously was a rivalry and Nestea was in on it.

Naniwa often gets misinterpreted which is really sad. He's often really nice and even funny in interviews, but he really needs some form of mental training so he doesn't end up in these situations.
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
November 20 2011 05:02 GMT
#12996
On November 20 2011 14:01 OMGKEI wrote:
Can someone link me the video or interview where naniwa said nestea was an idiot? The interview on mlg didn't seem too harsh.



It was taken way, way out of context by everyone. Watch for yourself, 90% of the people referencing I'm sure haven't actually seen it.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
November 20 2011 05:02 GMT
#12997
That warp prism play with sentries is getting out of hand.. Very hard to stop really.
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
November 20 2011 05:02 GMT
#12998
On November 20 2011 14:01 Alpino wrote:

Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 13:18 Toppp wrote:

Apparently NanIwa hosted the wrong map and blamed the admins for it and called the tournament a joke, delaying the broadcast.

NanIwa comes off as a arrogant, bitter person to alot of people ( me included ) because of the childish way he acts. He's very good but if he want's to be respected by most, he needs to grow up, it's not really just this one thing but the way his attitude in general.



But he is already respected by who actually matters.

Who? The players? I'm sure Naniwa lost a lot of respect from players today.
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
paintfive
Profile Joined September 2011
785 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 05:03:32
November 20 2011 05:03 GMT
#12999
On November 20 2011 14:00 Dundron2000 wrote:
the thing i dont get is how Naniwa can be so crushingly self critical of all his losses and then switches to utter hubris after 2 series vs MVP and Nestea.. its like there is no middle ground what so ever.

and cue the Complexity damage control...

on the plus side ive never been so into a match as the 2nd nestea/nani, hope tomorrow keeps these awesome games going!


lol... he beat MVP and Nestea!! id be pretty fuckin proud of myself.
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
November 20 2011 05:03 GMT
#13000
On November 20 2011 14:01 Vertical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 13:52 Azarkon wrote:
The dust settles, and two foreigners remain in the WB. IdrA can't seem to hang with the new Protoss meta-game, not that his ZvP was ever stellar. Unfortunate that he had to face MC instead of MVP, but there's still the chance that he might face MVP in the LB.

Naniwa and HuK have carried the foreigner torch forward this tournament, though in different fashions. The first has become the new face of BM. The second is an old crowd favorite. In terms of achievements, Naniwa has achieved much more this MLG - beating MVP, Nestea, and then Nestea again (for a record of 4-2) is not something any other foreigner can boast. As much notoriety as Naniwa might have gained for his actions in-between games, the man deserves credit for showing that no, he is not going to become just another foreigner victim in a sea of foreigner victims. He wants it all.

Meanwhile, the favorites from IM, Nestea and MVP, have both been sent to the LB. That this would happen, and via foreigners in the case of Nestea, was almost unthinkable prior to the tournament. But now it is a reality - though no doubt helped by the seeding system that gave them ample time to prepare, whereas Nestea and MVP had to slug it through the OB, one foreigner has risen to the greatest challenge of them all... And triumphed.

Pity that he had to wreck his reputation on the exact same day.

But hey, Naniwa is what he is. Accept him, reject him, hate him, love him, this tournament thus far has been his story.


u talk as if Naniwa and Huk is somewhat sooo gooooddd
if foreigners that good, then why's no one ever through the second round of Code A ?!

only Huk able do that, after he's multiple tries


foreigner won because this is "their" tournament
their rules, their turf, system, etc
the fact that only Huk (and jinro, and arguably idra) can last in korean turf, but NEVER won a single cup
is a fact that foreginer only won because this is "their" tournament

korean come being jet lagged, crawling from open bracket, with maximum a week of training (due to GSL)
but foreigner came to GSL with everything set
they came more than 3 days before the match (citation needed), they know the opponent, has the same preparation time
the same thing goes for GSL World Championship

u saw the IPL KoTH like clan war ?
no one gets even near slayers B teamers
thou i'd like to see how EG (arguably the best foreigner team) has their chances against them


they can have the throphy, but NOT YET the acknowledgement


u talk as if u haaaaven't read what he said.
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