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On November 20 2011 08:35 SCST wrote:
The fans in Anaheim seem to be the loudest and most excited, with Columbus coming in second. No idea why Providence crowd seems so laid back . . .
It's Rhode Island.
Anaheim is in So Cal/Los Angeles. One of, if not the biggest, e-sport hotbeds in the USA. Columbus is in the midwest; another gigantic hotbed for e-sports fans.
Rhode Island is just...Rhode Island.
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On November 20 2011 08:32 Drazerk wrote:Rob to cast the final
Wow! That's awesome. Where did you hear that from?
He's surprisingly good. Absolutely much better than mr. bitter and jp imo.
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On November 20 2011 08:34 Elem wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2011 08:32 Golgotha wrote:On November 20 2011 08:30 BouNCeR... wrote:On November 20 2011 08:30 Golgotha wrote:On November 20 2011 08:28 Jacobs Ladder wrote:On November 20 2011 08:22 Goshdarnit wrote:On November 20 2011 08:19 Pr0wler wrote:Lol people still whine about archon toilet being OP... Newsflash: It's Not ! Hero is the best  Newflash! How do you avoid it? I know many people claim its op and others simply say no, but no denier of it being OP has yet said what zerg should do to combat vortex aside from being MORE than two bases ahead. Even then.... huk vs aria... Huk vs Aria wasn't a serious game at all. Aria threw random comps at huk the whole time, anyone who understands the game can see how silly it was. Zerg's CAN spread. When its Mothership/Archon against mass BL the Z has to play it kind of like a Terran. Slowly push, spread out broods, protect them. If you just 1a in and stack up, you WILL LOSE. Its the fact that Zerg players aren't used to slow pushing with slow units, they're used to swarming into the slow push and breaking it. i know how to beat the toilet. mass banes and put them in the toilet along with the archons. boom. wow you're really smart! ... stfu no you stfu. what would happen though I never tried. Banelings auto-detonate and nothing dies because of the ~1.5 second immunity after being vortexed (the "fix" to the archon toilet, but still works vs only Broodlords.)
oh lordy that sucks that they auto detonate and kill nothing. ty
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On November 20 2011 08:34 TYJ.Aoy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2011 08:29 scaban84 wrote:On November 20 2011 08:29 iLike413 wrote:
OH god I have no doubt that Protoss is the most micro intensive race O.O When there aren't Colossus involved. Vortex into insta win is very micro intensive, I agree.
Anyone trying to argue about lack of micro in PvZ after seeing that game has surprisingly adept keyboard skills for a sloth.
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On November 20 2011 08:35 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2011 08:35 Golgotha wrote:On November 20 2011 08:33 Shellshock1122 wrote:On November 20 2011 08:32 Golgotha wrote:On November 20 2011 08:30 BouNCeR... wrote:On November 20 2011 08:30 Golgotha wrote:On November 20 2011 08:28 Jacobs Ladder wrote:On November 20 2011 08:22 Goshdarnit wrote:On November 20 2011 08:19 Pr0wler wrote:Lol people still whine about archon toilet being OP... Newsflash: It's Not ! Hero is the best Newflash! How do you avoid it? I know many people claim its op and others simply say no, but no denier of it being OP has yet said what zerg should do to combat vortex aside from being MORE than two bases ahead. Even then.... huk vs aria... Huk vs Aria wasn't a serious game at all. Aria threw random comps at huk the whole time, anyone who understands the game can see how silly it was. Zerg's CAN spread. When its Mothership/Archon against mass BL the Z has to play it kind of like a Terran. Slowly push, spread out broods, protect them. If you just 1a in and stack up, you WILL LOSE. Its the fact that Zerg players aren't used to slow pushing with slow units, they're used to swarming into the slow push and breaking it. i know how to beat the toilet. mass banes and put them in the toilet along with the archons. boom. wow you're really smart! ... stfu no you stfu. what would happen though I never tried. Arent vortexed units immune to damage for a short period or time (a sec or 2?) when leaving the vortex? yeah but so are the archons that go inside. and if the archons are outside, then the banes have invuln and thus they are even better off. but if they explode before it wears off they do 0 dmg? I guess you could wait a sec or two and manual detonate
Saw destiny test this, you need like a row of banes (8) per archon to go in and you come out with killing all the archons, but you have to send banes in after archons or the protoss just wont go in for the vortex, plus that many banes+broods u gotta be super prepared/far ahead.
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On November 20 2011 08:34 matiK23 wrote:
MLG needs to go to major cities if they want a hype crowd. I mean who lives in Rhode Island besides the Griffin family?
lol, I guess Quagmire.
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What game is coming up next?
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Thank god for Liquipedia.
Kawaiirice 1-1 Illusion. MLG not updating. Sigh -_-'
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I love seeing new/different things in games
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On November 20 2011 08:33 disciple wrote:
the constellations are aligning,the sun is eclipsed, HerO is rising
That's very poetic.
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it's as if the koreans are fighting an uphill (but not even difficult) battle against the foreigners. it's time to throw our last line of defense against them: idra, naniwa and huk!!!
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Toss doing very well this mlg
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Why don't they throw out that idiot that advertises his twitter account as a fan sign? And while they're at it, burn his house down.
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On November 20 2011 08:36 Techno wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2011 08:34 illsick wrote:On November 20 2011 08:32 Golgotha wrote:On November 20 2011 08:30 BouNCeR... wrote:On November 20 2011 08:30 Golgotha wrote:On November 20 2011 08:28 Jacobs Ladder wrote:On November 20 2011 08:22 Goshdarnit wrote:On November 20 2011 08:19 Pr0wler wrote:Lol people still whine about archon toilet being OP... Newsflash: It's Not ! Hero is the best Newflash! How do you avoid it? I know many people claim its op and others simply say no, but no denier of it being OP has yet said what zerg should do to combat vortex aside from being MORE than two bases ahead. Even then.... huk vs aria... Huk vs Aria wasn't a serious game at all. Aria threw random comps at huk the whole time, anyone who understands the game can see how silly it was. Zerg's CAN spread. When its Mothership/Archon against mass BL the Z has to play it kind of like a Terran. Slowly push, spread out broods, protect them. If you just 1a in and stack up, you WILL LOSE. Its the fact that Zerg players aren't used to slow pushing with slow units, they're used to swarming into the slow push and breaking it. i know how to beat the toilet. mass banes and put them in the toilet along with the archons. boom. wow you're really smart! ... stfu no you stfu. what would happen though I never tried. banes are cost inefficient against archons + Show Spoiler +
Thor isn't Archon though.
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On November 20 2011 08:36 Techno wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2011 08:34 illsick wrote:On November 20 2011 08:32 Golgotha wrote:On November 20 2011 08:30 BouNCeR... wrote:On November 20 2011 08:30 Golgotha wrote:On November 20 2011 08:28 Jacobs Ladder wrote:On November 20 2011 08:22 Goshdarnit wrote:On November 20 2011 08:19 Pr0wler wrote:Lol people still whine about archon toilet being OP... Newsflash: It's Not ! Hero is the best Newflash! How do you avoid it? I know many people claim its op and others simply say no, but no denier of it being OP has yet said what zerg should do to combat vortex aside from being MORE than two bases ahead. Even then.... huk vs aria... Huk vs Aria wasn't a serious game at all. Aria threw random comps at huk the whole time, anyone who understands the game can see how silly it was. Zerg's CAN spread. When its Mothership/Archon against mass BL the Z has to play it kind of like a Terran. Slowly push, spread out broods, protect them. If you just 1a in and stack up, you WILL LOSE. Its the fact that Zerg players aren't used to slow pushing with slow units, they're used to swarming into the slow push and breaking it. i know how to beat the toilet. mass banes and put them in the toilet along with the archons. boom. wow you're really smart! ... stfu no you stfu. what would happen though I never tried. banes are cost inefficient against archons http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AECveho2tSQ
Thor ≠ Archon, try again sir.
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On November 20 2011 08:35 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2011 08:34 Worldatlarge wrote:On November 20 2011 08:30 dcemuser wrote:On November 20 2011 08:27 Fandango wrote:
Pretty much the most abusive build possible, I can't tell if I like it or hate it, i'm gonna go with hate because it's so easy to pull off in comparison to being ready to beat it. It's not remotely easy to pull off. His sentry micro was sick. Eh, it was almost unneeded though. By the time he had to micro his sentries, he had already killed most of the drones and the Hydralisk Den. It's not easy to do it like Hero, but it's definitely an abusive build, and it is easy to pull off a shittier version of it. Yeah, its totally abusive to zergs who go blind double expand off of slow lings. That's a totally safe and valid build...
How did slow lings or the delayed tech affect the defense at all? Ret either has Muta's and holds or he happens to scout it and has units in the main. Not saying it's undefendable, but it can definitely come down to a coin toss, much like that game.
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On November 20 2011 07:02 NEOtheONE wrote:
I'm calling Huk vs Hero, MVP vs IdrA, Naniwa vs Nestea (the Rematch), and MMA vs DongRae.
I am two for two so far. Huk vs Hero and Naniwa vs Nestea.
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So apparently Ganzi is 1-1-1'ing every single game against good protosses?
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On November 20 2011 08:33 W2 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2011 08:30 archonOOid wrote:
what should ret have done to prevent the forcefield on the ramp? or the scenario that lead to it? Have half his army in main half in natural? So he can focus down sentries.
Have a couple roaches before it begins? Don't drone up to 70 drones with 6 zerglings etc etc
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