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Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
On October 30 2011 06:08 MCDayC wrote: Puma isn't bad, but he is soooooo abusive. He takes all the things that could look OP, and uses them to the max. eh i dont have anything against puma but some people overhype him. i really do think he is middling among korean terrans. | ||
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city42
1656 Posts
On October 30 2011 06:08 AndAgain wrote: When you see a factory unit, tech to colossi ASAP. I don't understand why you wouldn't do that. It's your only chance against this shit. Because the terran will see the support bay and just expand. Raven will deny scouting of the CC, so the toss will either have to all-in into sieged tanks or take a later expansion after holding probes for a long time. | ||
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MaV_gGSC
Canada1345 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On October 30 2011 06:10 Condor Hero wrote: eh i dont have anything against puma but some people overhype him. i really do think he is middling among korean terrans. Puma isn't anything "special" but his willingness to use strong all-in strategies make him a far scarier TvP opponent than his "middling" skill-level would imply. | ||
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Usagi
Spain1647 Posts
On October 30 2011 06:10 Numy wrote: TvP is rarely fun. I say that as a T. It's just a super boring matchup. Blob vs Blob yay! I actually enjoyed this last game, there was a lot of mind games and decision making into the positional game with that medivac. | ||
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StaplerPhone
United States813 Posts
On October 30 2011 06:09 Surriel wrote: I find PvT the worst matchup to play as a Terran. You either bio or 111, and both are terrible to play. I hope with HoTS transformed hellion will make mech more viable in PvT. Really? I love watching PvT as long as its not 1/1/1 or turtle up to 200/200. So not Puma lol | ||
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ProxyKnoxy
United Kingdom2576 Posts
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Bodhi
United States180 Posts
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36375 Posts
On October 30 2011 06:12 ProxyKnoxy wrote: What is Puma's winrate with 1-1-1? I have never seen him lose with it. In every deciding game he does it, and I've never seen him lose with it. Closest was vs Hero in IPL3, down to elimination. Crazy, he's soooo good at it. | ||
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AndAgain
United States2621 Posts
On October 30 2011 06:11 city42 wrote: Because the terran will see the support bay and just expand. Raven will deny scouting of the CC, so the toss will either have to all-in into sieged tanks or take a later expansion after holding probes for a long time. ToD already had an expo by the time the hellions showed up. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On October 30 2011 06:11 Usagi wrote: I actually enjoyed this last game, there was a lot of mind games and decision making into the positional game with that medivac. Problem is it's always about that one engagement. So players just dance around since they know whoever wins that one big engagement generally gets enough momentum to straight out win the game. It's just super silly to play. Every now and then games get messy but that's generally because of mistakes from players. | ||
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
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leungwk01
United Kingdom1260 Posts
On October 30 2011 06:12 ProxyKnoxy wrote: What is Puma's winrate with 1-1-1? I have never seen him lose with it. Mana has stopped it before. | ||
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PredY
Czech Republic1731 Posts
On October 30 2011 06:11 StaplerPhone wrote: Really? I love watching PvT as long as its not 1/1/1 or turtle up to 200/200. So not Puma lol just wondering what do you find interesting on tvp? a genuine question  | ||
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legaton
France1763 Posts
On October 30 2011 06:13 Hot_Bid wrote: In every deciding game he does it, and I've never seen him lose with it. Closest was vs Hero in IPL3, down to elimination. Crazy, he's soooo good at it. Not good enough for the CODE A qualifiers. | ||
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Diavlo
Belgium2915 Posts
On October 30 2011 06:13 Hot_Bid wrote: In every deciding game he does it, and I've never seen him lose with it. Closest was vs Hero in IPL3, down to elimination. Crazy, he's soooo good at it. He lost against Mana, nightend and MC while going 1-1-1. | ||
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Synche
United States1345 Posts
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Newbistic
China2912 Posts
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city42
1656 Posts
On October 30 2011 06:13 AndAgain wrote: ToD already had an expo by the time the hellions showed up. Are you suggesting that he expand AND build colossi? Puma would just do a quicker push and kill him before colossi come into play. The 1-1-1 can pretty much adapt to anything. 1 gate FE into zealot stalker immortal is the most reliable way to play against it, but close air positions make it extremely difficult. | ||
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Surriel
United Kingdom198 Posts
On October 30 2011 06:11 StaplerPhone wrote: Really? I love watching PvT as long as its not 1/1/1 or turtle up to 200/200. So not Puma lol Yes I love watching high level PvT with the emp/storm duel and positioning and drop. Its great, but as a player, I hate playing it. Too much micro required and one mistake cost you the game. I want options. For instant TvT is my favourite matchup, I can go marine tank, maruader tank, air terran, mech terran, or pure bio. Its just more strategic. TvZ you have to control how many expansion Zerg have, which techpath he is going for and when he is going to transition to broodlord. PvT you build a bioball, pretty much no matter what. Its terrible. | ||
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