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One of the best pvper Inori take out White Ra out of the MLG
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On October 16 2011 10:52 Zeon0 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 10:50 TazzDingo wrote:On October 16 2011 10:42 JohnnyBanana wrote:On October 16 2011 10:42 RogerChillingworth wrote:On October 16 2011 10:39 Shurayuki wrote:On October 16 2011 10:39 MCDayC wrote:
That's gonna go down as another amazing ZvT that Idra should have won. and then the other guy was better and won instead? Idra should have won it. But then Marineking outplayed Idra and won it instead. Today I learned: It's too hard for 90% on TL.net to understand that winning a match does not mean outplaying the opponent. Sheesh... First Huk-Hero, then IdrA-MKP... Unforced errors should not happen but they do happen sometimes. Has nothing to do with being outplayed... srsly guys. quoted for fucking truth
game 1 was MKP not outplaying idra
game 3 was maybe equal if you want...then it was MKP outsmarting idra
you can have that, happy happy?
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On October 16 2011 10:51 FryktSkyene wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 10:50 Zooper31 wrote:On October 16 2011 10:48 Rebs wrote:On October 16 2011 10:46 Zooper31 wrote:On October 16 2011 10:45 Mordiford wrote:On October 16 2011 10:45 Zooper31 wrote:On October 16 2011 10:42 hitpoint wrote:On October 16 2011 10:41 Zooper31 wrote:On October 16 2011 10:38 TYJ.Aoy wrote:On October 16 2011 10:36 Zooper31 wrote:
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This. 3-3 marines won him the game, nothing else. Macro was poor, not a single reactored barracks and he was banking 2k+ minerals the entire time. His micro wasn't even that good tbh. Simply won because marines are too damn good. No he wasn't banking 2k minerals the entire time, he started banking once he started getting attacked from 2 sides, it's easier to attack than it is to defend most of the time. Check the replay MKP was above 1500 minerals for the last 5min of the game and never went below 1k at any point and even floated above 2k at the very end. His highest supply was like 150 at some point, 0 reason for that, didnt even have a single reactor.On your easier to attack then defend point. Idra never floated above like 500 minerals when defending both attacks perfectly. Idra outplayed him most of the game and then had a single bad engage at the end that lost him the game because 3-3 marines are godly good with 6 medivacs. Idra was sniping all his depots. MKP was supply blocked for a huge span of time. So you're blaming Idra for killing stray buildings? I'm really confused... No, he's explaining why MKP's macro looked poor. It didn't look poor, it was poor, simple as that. MKP's own fault for getting his supply depots constantly picked off. hahaa yea you know theres a fanboy in the house when the other players problems are self inflicted and the the guy he supports lost because Terran op lolol. Yes I'm a fanboy of Idra's, doesn't change the fact that MKP played poorly and only won because of that last engage. And idra never got upgrades. But thats also MKP's marines being op right?
Agreed Idra shouldve had better upgrades. And yes marines are slightly better than they should be. That's been established since SC2 came out.
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On October 16 2011 10:51 Dante08 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 10:43 laharl23 wrote:On October 16 2011 10:41 Volband wrote:
Wait, why isn't Sase 1st? It's the same like MKP vs Idra... isn't it? Thats what i thought. Yea bomber is first with a higher map score but sase beat bomber. So shouldn't he be first? i guess puma being 4-1 as well screws things up but i dont know why Cause Bomber beat Puma and Puma beat Sase, giving a three way tie. In this situation they use the map score. I might be wrong though.
you know I dont know if this is the case at mlg, but usually it makes the most sense to have map score as the primary tiebreaker and then head to head secondary. Why ?
because sure in a 2 way tie head to head works great. But if its 3 or 4 ways what do you do ? then you look at map score (and even when that isnt conclusive you get replays but it rarely gets that far).
So generally tournaments have mapscore as the first factor in tiebreakers (heck this is the logic for most sports aswell).
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On October 16 2011 10:50 TazzDingo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 10:42 JohnnyBanana wrote:On October 16 2011 10:42 RogerChillingworth wrote:On October 16 2011 10:39 Shurayuki wrote:On October 16 2011 10:39 MCDayC wrote:
That's gonna go down as another amazing ZvT that Idra should have won. and then the other guy was better and won instead? Idra should have won it. But then Marineking outplayed Idra and won it instead. Today I learned: It's too hard for 90% on TL.net to understand that winning a match does not mean outplaying the opponent. Sheesh... First Huk-Hero, then IdrA-MKP... Unforced errors should not happen but they do happen sometimes. Has nothing to do with being outplayed... srsly guys.
outplayed. simple as that. poor engagements by idra, no upgrades. these are fundamental mistakes.
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On October 16 2011 10:50 TazzDingo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 10:42 JohnnyBanana wrote:On October 16 2011 10:42 RogerChillingworth wrote:On October 16 2011 10:39 Shurayuki wrote:On October 16 2011 10:39 MCDayC wrote:
That's gonna go down as another amazing ZvT that Idra should have won. and then the other guy was better and won instead? Idra should have won it. But then Marineking outplayed Idra and won it instead. Today I learned: It's too hard for 90% on TL.net to understand that winning a match does not mean outplaying the opponent. Sheesh... First Huk-Hero, then IdrA-MKP... Unforced errors should not happen but they do happen sometimes. Has nothing to do with being outplayed... srsly guys.
If your opponent makes a serious unforced error which hands you the game, you have outplayed your opponent.
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white-ra is out...sad. next time put him into pool play god damn it and throw incontrol/tyler scrubs out. seriously...
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On October 16 2011 10:52 Mysticesper wrote:
Stephano apparently advances.
Stephano v Idra should be interesting, should it get to that point.
Kiwikaki, Boxer and Sase are in the way. Sure, if he makes it to Idra, that would be a sick ZvZ, but we'll see hey?
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On October 16 2011 10:52 Mysticesper wrote:
Stephano apparently advances.
Stephano v Idra should be interesting, should it get to that point.
Stephano Kiwikaki rematch after Stephano beats Drewbie.
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anymore games on red stream?
or issit over for the day?
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United States15275 Posts
On October 16 2011 10:52 leungwk01 wrote:
Polt going on a sick run. Just beat jinro.
He'll have incontrol followed by TLO than sheth.
He should easily beast through those players.
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United Kingdom38257 Posts
Jinro 
Polt looking pretty good from the games I've seen this evening, seems to still be enjoying a lot of early pressure but his macro behind it looks decent.
His bracket is certainly doable, he really should crush everyone up to Puma.
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POLT 2-0 JINRO FUCK TO THE YEA!
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On October 16 2011 10:52 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 10:49 Genome852 wrote:On October 16 2011 10:48 Zooper31 wrote:On October 16 2011 10:46 hitpoint wrote:On October 16 2011 10:45 Zooper31 wrote:On October 16 2011 10:42 hitpoint wrote:On October 16 2011 10:41 Zooper31 wrote:On October 16 2011 10:38 TYJ.Aoy wrote:On October 16 2011 10:36 Zooper31 wrote:On October 16 2011 10:34 Doodsmack wrote:
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All he really did was get 3/3 on his marines. His macro was actually terrible but he had 3/3 marines to stim. The only reason he won is because of the power of marines. This. 3-3 marines won him the game, nothing else. Macro was poor, not a single reactored barracks and he was banking 2k+ minerals the entire time. His micro wasn't even that good tbh. Simply won because marines are too damn good. No he wasn't banking 2k minerals the entire time, he started banking once he started getting attacked from 2 sides, it's easier to attack than it is to defend most of the time. Check the replay MKP was above 1500 minerals for the last 5min of the game and never went below 1k at any point and even floated above 2k at the very end. His highest supply was like 150 at some point, 0 reason for that, didnt even have a single reactor.On your easier to attack then defend point. Idra never floated above like 500 minerals when defending both attacks perfectly. Idra outplayed him most of the game and then had a single bad engage at the end that lost him the game because 3-3 marines are godly good with 6 medivacs. Idra was sniping all his depots. MKP was supply blocked for a huge span of time. So you're blaming Idra for killing stray buildings? I'm really confused... No I'm saying that's why MKP's money got so high. You said there was no reason for it and I'm pointing out a very obvious reason. Of course there was a reason for it, MKP's poor macro/building placement. That shouldn't happen with a Top Tier player. But ty for reinforcing my point that MKP did poorly. What? Mutas can force through turrets once you get a good flock and kill depots no matter how good your building placement is. Are you saying perfect building placement makes your base invulnerable to muta harass? On October 16 2011 10:49 Zooper31 wrote:On October 16 2011 10:47 canikizu wrote:On October 16 2011 10:37 Ksi wrote:On October 16 2011 10:35 Badfatpanda wrote:On October 16 2011 10:34 Doodsmack wrote:On October 16 2011 10:33 Takkara wrote:
MKP is breathlessly amazing. What a series. Just amazing. What an nerd baller. Bravo to him. All he really did was get 3/3 on his marines. His macro was actually terrible but he had 3/3 marines to stim. The only reason he won is because of the power of marines. thats why he had 4 cc and 57 workers at 15min after idra killed 30 You're right shit macro .... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Did you not notice how he was floating 2k minerals at the end of the game because he didn't remember to make reactors or more barracks? he did make reactors, he didn't make them early game to focus those gas on upgrade. That was why he was able to afford all the upgrades and still tech to tank, medivac at the same time. So you're going to blantantly lie because Day9 showed all 8 or so barracks with no addon at all. Reactors on barracks in tvz is usually bad, especially when you're constantly being attacked. Think I've alrdy proved MKP had poor macro so I'll just stop argueing that point. Yes I heard having 1.5k+ minerals banked when your only on 130 or so supply is also bad in TvZ or any matchup to that matter.
Do you even read before you post? You've proved nothing and keep changing the subject. Way to go full circle... not going to argue anymore.
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Do I have to buy a ticket in order to watch jinro vs polt? Or is is going to be casted on blue/red?
edit; nevermind it's over
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Ok, i missed the beginning, so who the hell is that mustache dude?
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On October 16 2011 10:54 Genome852 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 10:52 Zooper31 wrote:On October 16 2011 10:49 Genome852 wrote:On October 16 2011 10:48 Zooper31 wrote:On October 16 2011 10:46 hitpoint wrote:On October 16 2011 10:45 Zooper31 wrote:On October 16 2011 10:42 hitpoint wrote:On October 16 2011 10:41 Zooper31 wrote:On October 16 2011 10:38 TYJ.Aoy wrote:On October 16 2011 10:36 Zooper31 wrote:
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This. 3-3 marines won him the game, nothing else. Macro was poor, not a single reactored barracks and he was banking 2k+ minerals the entire time. His micro wasn't even that good tbh. Simply won because marines are too damn good. No he wasn't banking 2k minerals the entire time, he started banking once he started getting attacked from 2 sides, it's easier to attack than it is to defend most of the time. Check the replay MKP was above 1500 minerals for the last 5min of the game and never went below 1k at any point and even floated above 2k at the very end. His highest supply was like 150 at some point, 0 reason for that, didnt even have a single reactor.On your easier to attack then defend point. Idra never floated above like 500 minerals when defending both attacks perfectly. Idra outplayed him most of the game and then had a single bad engage at the end that lost him the game because 3-3 marines are godly good with 6 medivacs. Idra was sniping all his depots. MKP was supply blocked for a huge span of time. So you're blaming Idra for killing stray buildings? I'm really confused... No I'm saying that's why MKP's money got so high. You said there was no reason for it and I'm pointing out a very obvious reason. Of course there was a reason for it, MKP's poor macro/building placement. That shouldn't happen with a Top Tier player. But ty for reinforcing my point that MKP did poorly. What? Mutas can force through turrets once you get a good flock and kill depots no matter how good your building placement is. Are you saying perfect building placement makes your base invulnerable to muta harass? On October 16 2011 10:49 Zooper31 wrote:On October 16 2011 10:47 canikizu wrote:On October 16 2011 10:37 Ksi wrote:On October 16 2011 10:35 Badfatpanda wrote:On October 16 2011 10:34 Doodsmack wrote:On October 16 2011 10:33 Takkara wrote:
MKP is breathlessly amazing. What a series. Just amazing. What an nerd baller. Bravo to him. All he really did was get 3/3 on his marines. His macro was actually terrible but he had 3/3 marines to stim. The only reason he won is because of the power of marines. thats why he had 4 cc and 57 workers at 15min after idra killed 30 You're right shit macro .... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Did you not notice how he was floating 2k minerals at the end of the game because he didn't remember to make reactors or more barracks? he did make reactors, he didn't make them early game to focus those gas on upgrade. That was why he was able to afford all the upgrades and still tech to tank, medivac at the same time. So you're going to blantantly lie because Day9 showed all 8 or so barracks with no addon at all. Reactors on barracks in tvz is usually bad, especially when you're constantly being attacked. Think I've alrdy proved MKP had poor macro so I'll just stop argueing that point. Yes I heard having 1.5k+ minerals banked when your only on 130 or so supply is also bad in TvZ or any matchup to that matter. Do you even read before you post? You've proved nothing and keep changing the subject. Way to go full circle... not going to argue anymore.
K save both our time.
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On October 16 2011 10:52 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 10:49 Genome852 wrote:On October 16 2011 10:48 Zooper31 wrote:On October 16 2011 10:46 hitpoint wrote:On October 16 2011 10:45 Zooper31 wrote:On October 16 2011 10:42 hitpoint wrote:On October 16 2011 10:41 Zooper31 wrote:On October 16 2011 10:38 TYJ.Aoy wrote:On October 16 2011 10:36 Zooper31 wrote:On October 16 2011 10:34 Doodsmack wrote:
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All he really did was get 3/3 on his marines. His macro was actually terrible but he had 3/3 marines to stim. The only reason he won is because of the power of marines. This. 3-3 marines won him the game, nothing else. Macro was poor, not a single reactored barracks and he was banking 2k+ minerals the entire time. His micro wasn't even that good tbh. Simply won because marines are too damn good. No he wasn't banking 2k minerals the entire time, he started banking once he started getting attacked from 2 sides, it's easier to attack than it is to defend most of the time. Check the replay MKP was above 1500 minerals for the last 5min of the game and never went below 1k at any point and even floated above 2k at the very end. His highest supply was like 150 at some point, 0 reason for that, didnt even have a single reactor.On your easier to attack then defend point. Idra never floated above like 500 minerals when defending both attacks perfectly. Idra outplayed him most of the game and then had a single bad engage at the end that lost him the game because 3-3 marines are godly good with 6 medivacs. Idra was sniping all his depots. MKP was supply blocked for a huge span of time. So you're blaming Idra for killing stray buildings? I'm really confused... No I'm saying that's why MKP's money got so high. You said there was no reason for it and I'm pointing out a very obvious reason. Of course there was a reason for it, MKP's poor macro/building placement. That shouldn't happen with a Top Tier player. But ty for reinforcing my point that MKP did poorly. What? Mutas can force through turrets once you get a good flock and kill depots no matter how good your building placement is. Are you saying perfect building placement makes your base invulnerable to muta harass? On October 16 2011 10:49 Zooper31 wrote:On October 16 2011 10:47 canikizu wrote:On October 16 2011 10:37 Ksi wrote:On October 16 2011 10:35 Badfatpanda wrote:On October 16 2011 10:34 Doodsmack wrote:On October 16 2011 10:33 Takkara wrote:
MKP is breathlessly amazing. What a series. Just amazing. What an nerd baller. Bravo to him. All he really did was get 3/3 on his marines. His macro was actually terrible but he had 3/3 marines to stim. The only reason he won is because of the power of marines. thats why he had 4 cc and 57 workers at 15min after idra killed 30 You're right shit macro .... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Did you not notice how he was floating 2k minerals at the end of the game because he didn't remember to make reactors or more barracks? he did make reactors, he didn't make them early game to focus those gas on upgrade. That was why he was able to afford all the upgrades and still tech to tank, medivac at the same time. So you're going to blantantly lie because Day9 showed all 8 or so barracks with no addon at all. Reactors on barracks in tvz is usually bad, especially when you're constantly being attacked. Think I've alrdy proved MKP had poor macro so I'll just stop argueing that point. Yes I heard having 1.5k+ minerals banked when your only on 130 or so supply is also bad in TvZ or any matchup to that matter.
You're so dumb.
User was temp banned for this post.
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On October 16 2011 10:53 bittman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 10:52 Mysticesper wrote:
Stephano apparently advances.
Stephano v Idra should be interesting, should it get to that point. Kiwikaki, Boxer and Sase are in the way. Sure, if he makes it to Idra, that would be a sick ZvZ, but we'll see hey?
I wouldn't entirely rule it out, based on how he played at IPL. It's very doable.
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Northern Ireland26225 Posts
On October 16 2011 10:52 DoomsVille wrote:
Oh my god. This thread has totally gone to shit.
I hate when IdrA loses. Fanboys cry imbalance. Anti-fanboys lolololol all night. It's disgusting.
Both players played extremely well. IdrA did make a crucial mistake towards the end that likely cost him the game. If he handled that properly, there is a good chance he would have won.
But he certainly didn't lose because terran is OP. And MKP didn't win because he is lolololol 50x better than IdrA. That was a very even and exciting match.
Now shut up for the love of god.
Quoted for truth.
Also, is Inori some sort of inhuman PvP sniper? Takes down MC, Huk and MC in the last two tournaments. How are his other MUps?
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