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RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3074 Posts
October 16 2011 01:50 GMT
#9041
People have to understand that, with proper micro, marines are the most cost efficient units in the game.

3-3
medivacs

throw in the fact mutas are bad in a straight up fight to begin with, it's not going to turn out well--especially when you overextend. Idra still played quite fine though, save for not including banes in those counter-attacks.

sucks he won't be in championship semis. 'tis a fragile game
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
October 16 2011 01:50 GMT
#9042
On October 16 2011 10:48 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 10:46 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:45 Mordiford wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:45 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:42 hitpoint wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:41 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:38 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:36 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:34 Doodsmack wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:33 Takkara wrote:
MKP is breathlessly amazing. What a series. Just amazing. What an nerd baller. Bravo to him.




All he really did was get 3/3 on his marines. His macro was actually terrible but he had 3/3 marines to stim. The only reason he won is because of the power of marines.


This. 3-3 marines won him the game, nothing else. Macro was poor, not a single reactored barracks and he was banking 2k+ minerals the entire time. His micro wasn't even that good tbh. Simply won because marines are too damn good.

No he wasn't banking 2k minerals the entire time, he started banking once he started getting attacked from 2 sides, it's easier to attack than it is to defend most of the time.


Check the replay MKP was above 1500 minerals for the last 5min of the game and never went below 1k at any point and even floated above 2k at the very end. His highest supply was like 150 at some point, 0 reason for that, didnt even have a single reactor.

On your easier to attack then defend point. Idra never floated above like 500 minerals when defending both attacks perfectly. Idra outplayed him most of the game and then had a single bad engage at the end that lost him the game because 3-3 marines are godly good with 6 medivacs.


Idra was sniping all his depots. MKP was supply blocked for a huge span of time.


So you're blaming Idra for killing stray buildings? I'm really confused...


No, he's explaining why MKP's macro looked poor.


It didn't look poor, it was poor, simple as that. MKP's own fault for getting his supply depots constantly picked off.



hahaa yea you know theres a fanboy in the house when the other players problems are self inflicted and the the guy he supports lost because Terran op lolol.


Yes I'm a fanboy of Idra's, doesn't change the fact that MKP played poorly and only won because of that last engage.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
TazzDingo
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany502 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 01:51:15
October 16 2011 01:50 GMT
#9043
On October 16 2011 10:42 JohnnyBanana wrote:
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On October 16 2011 10:42 RogerChillingworth wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:39 Shurayuki wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:39 MCDayC wrote:
That's gonna go down as another amazing ZvT that Idra should have won.


and then the other guy was better and won instead?




Idra should have won it.


But then Marineking outplayed Idra and won it instead.

Today I learned: It's too hard for 90% on TL.net to understand that winning a match does not mean outplaying the opponent. Sheesh... First Huk-Hero, then IdrA-MKP... Unforced errors should not happen but they do happen sometimes. Has nothing to do with being outplayed... srsly guys.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
October 16 2011 01:50 GMT
#9044
Jinro/Polt on Black. White-Ra/Inori on White.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
ThyHate
Profile Joined September 2011
240 Posts
October 16 2011 01:50 GMT
#9045
On October 16 2011 10:48 StarVe wrote:
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On October 16 2011 10:46 ThyHate wrote:
COMON show STEPHANO please !

[image loading]

Look at this easy bracket, I BELIEVE !


It's wrong, Inori plays Ra, Stephano is up 1-0 against Vibe.


My bad, lemme start again


COMON show STEPHANO please !

[image loading]

Look at this easy bracket, I BELIEVE !
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
October 16 2011 01:50 GMT
#9046
Jump-in terrible LR!

Polt is 1-0 against Jinro in total.

Polt has a contain on Jinro, Jinro harassing it with a banshee.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
DerMeister
Profile Joined May 2011
United States57 Posts
October 16 2011 01:50 GMT
#9047
Looks like we'll have a stephano kiwikaki rematch
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
October 16 2011 01:51 GMT
#9048
On October 16 2011 10:43 laharl23 wrote:
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On October 16 2011 10:41 Volband wrote:
Wait, why isn't Sase 1st? It's the same like MKP vs Idra... isn't it?


Thats what i thought.

Yea bomber is first with a higher map score but sase beat bomber.

So shouldn't he be first?

i guess puma being 4-1 as well screws things up but i dont know why


Cause Bomber beat Puma and Puma beat Sase, giving a three way tie. In this situation they use the map score. I might be wrong though.
alepov
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands1132 Posts
October 16 2011 01:51 GMT
#9049
On October 16 2011 10:48 Ryler wrote:
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On October 16 2011 10:46 alepov wrote:
stephano eliminating all the things

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


thats the extended series score ...

what i actually meant is that he's twice on those brackets, but i guess nobody else noticed, so whatever
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
FryktSkyene
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1327 Posts
October 16 2011 01:51 GMT
#9050
On October 16 2011 10:50 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 10:48 Rebs wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:46 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:45 Mordiford wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:45 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:42 hitpoint wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:41 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:38 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:36 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:34 Doodsmack wrote:
[quote]



All he really did was get 3/3 on his marines. His macro was actually terrible but he had 3/3 marines to stim. The only reason he won is because of the power of marines.


This. 3-3 marines won him the game, nothing else. Macro was poor, not a single reactored barracks and he was banking 2k+ minerals the entire time. His micro wasn't even that good tbh. Simply won because marines are too damn good.

No he wasn't banking 2k minerals the entire time, he started banking once he started getting attacked from 2 sides, it's easier to attack than it is to defend most of the time.


Check the replay MKP was above 1500 minerals for the last 5min of the game and never went below 1k at any point and even floated above 2k at the very end. His highest supply was like 150 at some point, 0 reason for that, didnt even have a single reactor.

On your easier to attack then defend point. Idra never floated above like 500 minerals when defending both attacks perfectly. Idra outplayed him most of the game and then had a single bad engage at the end that lost him the game because 3-3 marines are godly good with 6 medivacs.


Idra was sniping all his depots. MKP was supply blocked for a huge span of time.


So you're blaming Idra for killing stray buildings? I'm really confused...


No, he's explaining why MKP's macro looked poor.


It didn't look poor, it was poor, simple as that. MKP's own fault for getting his supply depots constantly picked off.



hahaa yea you know theres a fanboy in the house when the other players problems are self inflicted and the the guy he supports lost because Terran op lolol.


Yes I'm a fanboy of Idra's, doesn't change the fact that MKP played poorly and only won because of that last engage.



And idra never got upgrades. But thats also MKP's marines being op right?
Snitches get stiches
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 01:51:31
October 16 2011 01:51 GMT
#9051
13 minutes into the game and Jinro is finally going to be able to secure an expansion...

...well maybe not, he tried to ninja one during the contain but Polt had a marine there in case.

15 minutes and he gets his natural though...

...Polt already working on taking the gold.
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
October 16 2011 01:51 GMT
#9052
On October 16 2011 10:50 NuclearJudas wrote:
Jump-in terrible LR!

Polt is 1-0 against Jinro in total.

Polt has a contain on Jinro, Jinro harassing it with a banshee.

Contain broken, Jinro has a loooot of BFH's against Polt's Marine-Tank combo.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
October 16 2011 01:51 GMT
#9053
Wow what dumbass said Stephano just beat White-Ra? Brackets have changed in liquipedia and they aren't even playing each other... Wtf?
susySquark
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1692 Posts
October 16 2011 01:51 GMT
#9054
On October 16 2011 10:50 DerMeister wrote:
Looks like we'll have a stephano kiwikaki rematch


I cannot wait.
Automata
Profile Joined March 2011
393 Posts
October 16 2011 01:51 GMT
#9055
Anyone know what/when the next match is?
Genome852
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States979 Posts
October 16 2011 01:51 GMT
#9056
On October 16 2011 10:51 FryktSkyene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 10:50 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:48 Rebs wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:46 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:45 Mordiford wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:45 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:42 hitpoint wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:41 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:38 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:36 Zooper31 wrote:
[quote]

This. 3-3 marines won him the game, nothing else. Macro was poor, not a single reactored barracks and he was banking 2k+ minerals the entire time. His micro wasn't even that good tbh. Simply won because marines are too damn good.

No he wasn't banking 2k minerals the entire time, he started banking once he started getting attacked from 2 sides, it's easier to attack than it is to defend most of the time.


Check the replay MKP was above 1500 minerals for the last 5min of the game and never went below 1k at any point and even floated above 2k at the very end. His highest supply was like 150 at some point, 0 reason for that, didnt even have a single reactor.

On your easier to attack then defend point. Idra never floated above like 500 minerals when defending both attacks perfectly. Idra outplayed him most of the game and then had a single bad engage at the end that lost him the game because 3-3 marines are godly good with 6 medivacs.


Idra was sniping all his depots. MKP was supply blocked for a huge span of time.


So you're blaming Idra for killing stray buildings? I'm really confused...


No, he's explaining why MKP's macro looked poor.


It didn't look poor, it was poor, simple as that. MKP's own fault for getting his supply depots constantly picked off.



hahaa yea you know theres a fanboy in the house when the other players problems are self inflicted and the the guy he supports lost because Terran op lolol.


Yes I'm a fanboy of Idra's, doesn't change the fact that MKP played poorly and only won because of that last engage.



And idra never got upgrades. But thats also MKP's marines being op right?


He's clearly just trying to say upgrades are OP and should be nerfed.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
October 16 2011 01:51 GMT
#9057
Oh no... If logic ensues MC is going up against puma again in the champ bracket, that's when all hell breaks loose
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
October 16 2011 01:52 GMT
#9058
On October 16 2011 10:50 TazzDingo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 10:42 JohnnyBanana wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:42 RogerChillingworth wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:39 Shurayuki wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:39 MCDayC wrote:
That's gonna go down as another amazing ZvT that Idra should have won.


and then the other guy was better and won instead?




Idra should have won it.


But then Marineking outplayed Idra and won it instead.

Today I learned: It's too hard for 90% on TL.net to understand that winning a match does not mean outplaying the opponent. Sheesh... First Huk-Hero, then IdrA-MKP... Unforced errors should not happen but they do happen sometimes. Has nothing to do with being outplayed... srsly guys.

quoted for fucking truth
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
OMGKEI
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia590 Posts
October 16 2011 01:52 GMT
#9059
Everyone is already counting out polt just cause he lost to some unknown zerg. That guy is a GSL champion cmon.
AvAri
Profile Joined August 2011
Austria135 Posts
October 16 2011 01:52 GMT
#9060
inori 2:0 whitera
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