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TheSwamp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1497 Posts
October 16 2011 01:47 GMT
#9001
On October 16 2011 10:42 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Orlando why does it alrdy say STC gets first in the group.. if ret beats him 2-0 they would both be 8-3 plus ret would have the head to head???


Ret already lost.
MLG: How is your Protoss? Idra: I make Blink Stalkers, so really, really good.
last.resistance
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada543 Posts
October 16 2011 01:47 GMT
#9002
First place in groups: 3 Terran 1 Protoss
Second place in groups: 3 Zerg 1 Terran
Third place in groups: 3 Protoss 1 Zerg
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
October 16 2011 01:47 GMT
#9003
On October 16 2011 10:46 XnG_777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 10:45 Al Bundy wrote:
Polt vs Jinro? I wanna see that match


alive 2-0'd polt

Polt 2-0 Alive ****
Most Skilled Current esport Games Scbw>Sc2>Cs1.6>Dota2>Hon>Loopin Louie The Drinking Game>LoL
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
October 16 2011 01:47 GMT
#9004
On October 16 2011 10:44 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 10:43 Flonomenalz wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:35 ariK wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:34 Flonomenalz wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:33 soupchicken wrote:
Idra should've teched. He needed infestors. He need hive tech. Also 3/3 marines with enough medivacs can take out infinity supply.

u need hive tech against t1 units. sounds fair.


You've obviously never played brood war, marines were viable all game long tvz too

yeah VIABLE. would u go mass marine medic tank with no science vessel in late game tvz?

my god terrans are so biased


medivacs are not medics. And they arent cheap.

I think SCII needs scourge...
:)
Naughty
Profile Joined March 2011
United States114 Posts
October 16 2011 01:47 GMT
#9005
While I do not think marines should counter almost every unit zerg can toss at a Terran army, if idra backed off on the aggression just a small bit to get some tech up for the eventual last ditch all in push.

Though with mules and all those Barracks & Reactors pushing out 3/3 marines it out produces zerg while counting most there units.
InvalidID
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1050 Posts
October 16 2011 01:47 GMT
#9006
On October 16 2011 10:42 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 10:40 InvalidID wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:39 DystopiaX wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:38 dmnum wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:36 DystopiaX wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:35 Ausfailia wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:34 Icky wrote:
Not over yet, and all.. But I have to say, as a casual Starcraft 2 watcher, if Koreans keep winning MLGs I'm just going to stop bothering entirely.


Why, were you not entertained by that game?

Why does it matter where they come from? Was that game not intense and exciting? If a player's nationality is what prevents you from watching esports why even bother?

Some people doesn't enjoy seeing a tourney roster and knowing which players will finish top 6. It's his opinion, are you that intolerant?

There are more than 6 Koreans, and if pool play shows us anything it's that foreigners are more than capable of making it top 6 anyway. SC is about the games, not about where people are from.


Huk won a pool with 3 code A/S rated Koreans. I don't know how you would have "predicted that"


lolwut

Only July is Code S. MC isn't even in Code A anymore.

Hero is A, MC is not code A anymore but is competitive, and plays like a beast.
LetoAtreides82
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1188 Posts
October 16 2011 01:47 GMT
#9007
Group B final standings
1. Bomber 4-1 9-2
2. Puma 4-1 8-3
3. SaSe 4-1 8-4
4. Sheth 2-3 6-7
5. Kiwikaki 1-4 2-8
6. InControL 0-5 1-10
The spice must flow
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
October 16 2011 01:47 GMT
#9008
On October 16 2011 10:46 Al Bundy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 10:44 TitleRug wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:43 XnG_777 wrote:
MLG:

For the first time in MLG history, no Korean has gone undefeated.

how about thestc

He's so flying under the radar, next thing we know he wins MLG and no one notices


I noticed >< $20 on theSTC winning IPL or MLG...wasn't looking good last week but now =D
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
susySquark
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1692 Posts
October 16 2011 01:47 GMT
#9009
On October 16 2011 10:46 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 10:43 XnG_777 wrote:
MLG:

For the first time in MLG history, no Korean has gone undefeated.


TheStC is undefeated


He lost a map, but that was to another Korean so I guess it doesn't count?
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
October 16 2011 01:47 GMT
#9010
Why is there no commentary for the Polt-Jinro match?
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
October 16 2011 01:47 GMT
#9011
On October 16 2011 10:45 Caesarion wrote:
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On October 16 2011 10:43 Asha` wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:42 s3rp wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:41 Volband wrote:
Wait, why isn't Sase 1st? It's the same like MKP vs Idra... isn't it?


Because Sase has two losses Puma and Bomber have 1 ....


Sase has one loss.

There's a three way tie between Bomber, Sase, and Puma so it's decided by map score.

Bomber went 9-2 on maps
Puma went 8-3
Sase went 8-4


That's a pity. SaSe played so brilliantly to end up in 3rd place.


Yeah, that group was stacked. If you put him in any of the other groups I think he ends up at least 2nd.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
October 16 2011 01:47 GMT
#9012
On October 16 2011 10:37 Ksi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 10:35 Badfatpanda wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:34 Doodsmack wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:33 Takkara wrote:
MKP is breathlessly amazing. What a series. Just amazing. What an nerd baller. Bravo to him.




All he really did was get 3/3 on his marines. His macro was actually terrible but he had 3/3 marines to stim. The only reason he won is because of the power of marines.


thats why he had 4 cc and 57 workers at 15min after idra killed 30

You're right shit macro

....

¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Did you not notice how he was floating 2k minerals at the end of the game because he didn't remember to make reactors or more barracks?

he did make reactors, he didn't make them early game to focus those gas on upgrade. That was why he was able to afford all the upgrades and still tech to tank, medivac at the same time.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
October 16 2011 01:47 GMT
#9013
On October 16 2011 10:46 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 10:45 Mordiford wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:45 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:42 hitpoint wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:41 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:38 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:36 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:34 Doodsmack wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:33 Takkara wrote:
MKP is breathlessly amazing. What a series. Just amazing. What an nerd baller. Bravo to him.




All he really did was get 3/3 on his marines. His macro was actually terrible but he had 3/3 marines to stim. The only reason he won is because of the power of marines.


This. 3-3 marines won him the game, nothing else. Macro was poor, not a single reactored barracks and he was banking 2k+ minerals the entire time. His micro wasn't even that good tbh. Simply won because marines are too damn good.

No he wasn't banking 2k minerals the entire time, he started banking once he started getting attacked from 2 sides, it's easier to attack than it is to defend most of the time.


Check the replay MKP was above 1500 minerals for the last 5min of the game and never went below 1k at any point and even floated above 2k at the very end. His highest supply was like 150 at some point, 0 reason for that, didnt even have a single reactor.

On your easier to attack then defend point. Idra never floated above like 500 minerals when defending both attacks perfectly. Idra outplayed him most of the game and then had a single bad engage at the end that lost him the game because 3-3 marines are godly good with 6 medivacs.


Idra was sniping all his depots. MKP was supply blocked for a huge span of time.


So you're blaming Idra for killing stray buildings? I'm really confused...


No, he's explaining why MKP's macro looked poor.


It didn't look poor, it was poor, simple as that. MKP's own fault for getting his supply depots constantly picked off.

2k minerals because he couldn't build reactors. He builds reactors, he may spend his money or IdrA may hit a timing and win. Hard to stop unit production when you're under constant assault.
NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
October 16 2011 01:47 GMT
#9014
On October 16 2011 10:46 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 10:43 XnG_777 wrote:
MLG:

For the first time in MLG history, no Korean has gone undefeated.


TheStC is undefeated


yeah blunder by MLG
Abstracts, the too long didn't read of the educated world.
GuiltyJerk
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States584 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 01:49:10
October 16 2011 01:47 GMT
#9015
On October 16 2011 10:42 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Orlando why does it alrdy say STC gets first in the group.. if ret beats him 2-0 they would both be 8-3 plus ret would have the head to head???



Yeah someone's making some assumptions, although I heard that theSTC was a game up on Ret and ahead in the next one, so idk.


EDIT: J/k, STC beat Ret but we just didn't see it on the announcy thing
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
October 16 2011 01:47 GMT
#9016
On October 16 2011 10:43 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 10:42 dmnum wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:39 DystopiaX wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:38 dmnum wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:36 DystopiaX wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:35 Ausfailia wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:34 Icky wrote:
Not over yet, and all.. But I have to say, as a casual Starcraft 2 watcher, if Koreans keep winning MLGs I'm just going to stop bothering entirely.


Why, were you not entertained by that game?

Why does it matter where they come from? Was that game not intense and exciting? If a player's nationality is what prevents you from watching esports why even bother?

Some people doesn't enjoy seeing a tourney roster and knowing which players will finish top 6. It's his opinion, are you that intolerant?

There are more than 6 Koreans, and if pool play shows us anything it's that foreigners are more than capable of making it top 6 anyway. SC is about the games, not about where people are from.

You want SC2 to be an e-sport, right? Soccer is all about the games too, yet I don't cheer for barcelona because they are the best team in the world, I cheer for flamengo because they are the team from my country.

Cheering for a team caused they're from your country is fine, but what people are doing with saying "I don't want Koreans to win" is more like saying "I don't want Barcelona to win because they're from Spain". See the difference?

What? The guy said if koreans keep winning he might stop watching. When it's foreigners vs koreans, he's going to want the foreigners to win, which means the koreans will lose. He's not saying the koreans should play with one hand tied, he's just saying that he will lose interest if the scene keeps being dominated by 1 nation. See the difference?
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
October 16 2011 01:48 GMT
#9017
On October 16 2011 10:46 Coolwhip wrote:
Are idra fanboys going to keep crying the coming 50 pages? MKP is on a whole other level than idra.

Why is Ret so unstable. Sometimes he wins brilliantly, then he get's smashed 2-0 again :/

He's greedy. When he gets away with it he wins, when not he loses.
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
October 16 2011 01:48 GMT
#9018
HUK 2-0 OVER DDORO HUK TAKES GROUP A WOOOOOT
Most Skilled Current esport Games Scbw>Sc2>Cs1.6>Dota2>Hon>Loopin Louie The Drinking Game>LoL
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
October 16 2011 01:48 GMT
#9019
On October 16 2011 10:46 ThyHate wrote:
COMON show STEPHANO please !

[image loading]

Look at this easy bracket, I BELIEVE !


It's wrong, Inori plays Ra, Stephano is up 1-0 against Vibe.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
October 16 2011 01:48 GMT
#9020
On October 16 2011 10:46 hitpoint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 10:45 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:42 hitpoint wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:41 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:38 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:36 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:34 Doodsmack wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:33 Takkara wrote:
MKP is breathlessly amazing. What a series. Just amazing. What an nerd baller. Bravo to him.




All he really did was get 3/3 on his marines. His macro was actually terrible but he had 3/3 marines to stim. The only reason he won is because of the power of marines.


This. 3-3 marines won him the game, nothing else. Macro was poor, not a single reactored barracks and he was banking 2k+ minerals the entire time. His micro wasn't even that good tbh. Simply won because marines are too damn good.

No he wasn't banking 2k minerals the entire time, he started banking once he started getting attacked from 2 sides, it's easier to attack than it is to defend most of the time.


Check the replay MKP was above 1500 minerals for the last 5min of the game and never went below 1k at any point and even floated above 2k at the very end. His highest supply was like 150 at some point, 0 reason for that, didnt even have a single reactor.

On your easier to attack then defend point. Idra never floated above like 500 minerals when defending both attacks perfectly. Idra outplayed him most of the game and then had a single bad engage at the end that lost him the game because 3-3 marines are godly good with 6 medivacs.


Idra was sniping all his depots. MKP was supply blocked for a huge span of time.


So you're blaming Idra for killing stray buildings? I'm really confused...


No I'm saying that's why MKP's money got so high. You said there was no reason for it and I'm pointing out a very obvious reason.


Of course there was a reason for it, MKP's poor macro/building placement. That shouldn't happen with a Top Tier player.

But ty for reinforcing my point that MKP did poorly.
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