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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
October 18 2011 08:13 GMT
#41
On October 18 2011 15:02 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 14:37 dooraven wrote:
On October 18 2011 13:58 Diamond wrote:
On October 18 2011 13:41 dooraven wrote:
Why do you guys still use dual sight >_>? Hopefully it's removed for the next finals.


It's a decently balanced map that also has some other redeeming qualities. Mainly it has a lower average game length then most of the other map, so it allows more macro maps. Remember these tournaments take some time to run, and if we had all insane macro maps it would take forever to run. Also when put into a BOX (bo3, bo5, bo7) series it opens up the option of a lot of cool rushes and cheeses depending on the series, it's an interesting mental thing as well as allows for more variety.

Also Bel'Shir Beach causes Orb's SC2 to crash all the time, so that is out for a 2p "rush map".

The stats aren't horrible either, ZvP is a bit high but not out of control:
TvZ: 86-70 (55.1%) | ZvP: 51-37 (58%) | PvT: 61-67 (47.7%)


Vaild points but I don't see how that makes Dual Sight any better than iCCup Pawn Re or Xelnaga Caverns (which is quite problematic in ZvT but not as Dual Sights ZvP judging from TLPD Korea). The only real advantage over those two maps is the fact that Dual Sight is a GSL map.

The stats aren't horrible for international TLPD sure, but internaional TLPD contains too many Competo cups and mid tier cups that have a huge player skill divide. Korean TLPD on the other hand shows these stats:

TvZ: 33-27 (55%)
ZvP: 26-11 (70.3%)
PvT: 19-28 (40.4%)

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/maps/445_Dual_Sight


Edit: Right now Dual Sight is the only choice. It was that or Tal'Darim Altar and we already had a ton of macro maps (Sanshorn, Antiga, Daybreak, Katrina, Ithaca), adding TDA would have made this run much much longer. Crossfire leads to silly games, and Bel'Shir crashes Orb's comp.

I don't get the hate on crossfire. It's had some of the most memorable GSL games. Dual sight isn't that bad, but kind of sucks ass for protoss.
Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
October 18 2011 08:13 GMT
#42
I'm hoping for Min/forGG/Annyung/BboongBboong to be top non-ranked player. BboongBboong has so much potential.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 19:26:42
October 18 2011 16:27 GMT
#43
Starting up today in about 5 1/2 hours! Who do you think will advance?

Poll: Which 2 players will advance?

SlayerS.Taeja and oGs.ForGG (22)
 
67%

SlayerS.Taeja and NsHS.Tassadar (7)
 
21%

oGs.ForGG and NsHS.Tassadar (3)
 
9%

oGs.ForGG and NettiePrime.WE (1)
 
3%

SlayerS.Taeja and NettiePrime.WE (0)
 
0%

NsHS.Tassadar and NettiePrime.WE (0)
 
0%

33 total votes

Your vote: Which 2 players will advance?

(Vote): SlayerS.Taeja and oGs.ForGG
(Vote): SlayerS.Taeja and NsHS.Tassadar
(Vote): SlayerS.Taeja and NettiePrime.WE
(Vote): oGs.ForGG and NsHS.Tassadar
(Vote): oGs.ForGG and NettiePrime.WE
(Vote): NsHS.Tassadar and NettiePrime.WE

Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 18 2011 17:39 GMT
#44
that vote is kind of hard... i bet many people WANT forGG to advance and at the same time know Taeja looks like the obvious choice to make it.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
October 18 2011 18:01 GMT
#45
Reddit thread for today
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
October 18 2011 18:11 GMT
#46
Heart: ForGG
Brain Taeja

Heart > Brain
Search "[SO]" on B.net to find all my maps ||| Cloud Kingdom / Turbo Cruise '84 / Bone Temple / Eternal Empire / Zen / Purity and Industry / Golden Wall / Fortitude / Beckett Industries / Waterfall
Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
October 18 2011 18:14 GMT
#47
So many Zergs!
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
October 18 2011 18:27 GMT
#48
On October 19 2011 03:14 Giriath wrote:
So many Zergs!


I got to be honest, it's a nice change of pace for a Korean tourney. I don't think I've ever seen an all Z Korean group ever.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
October 18 2011 18:28 GMT
#49
On October 19 2011 03:27 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 03:14 Giriath wrote:
So many Zergs!


I got to be honest, it's a nice change of pace for a Korean tourney. I don't think I've ever seen an all Z Korean group ever.


Me neither.
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 18:43:17
October 18 2011 18:43 GMT
#50
For people that did not read the OP, here's the matches today:

Group Stages
Group A
Tuesday, Oct 18 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

Match 1: - SlayerS.Taeja vs. NettiePrime.WE
Match 2: - oGs.ForGG vs. NsHS.Tassadar
Match 3: - Winner 1 vs. Winner 2
Match 4: - Loser 1 vs. Loser 2
Match 5: - Loser 3 vs Winner 4
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Kieofire
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1809 Posts
October 18 2011 18:45 GMT
#51
On October 19 2011 03:11 Superouman wrote:
Heart: ForGG
Brain Taeja

Heart > Brain


Someone who follows the same philosophy I do! As that is what I am saying also. Hoping fOrGG can pull off some wins against Taeja!
tnud
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden2233 Posts
October 18 2011 18:49 GMT
#52
On October 19 2011 03:11 Superouman wrote:
Heart: ForGG
Brain Taeja

Heart > Brain

Damn right, Gotta love ForGG
- ಠ_ಠ - | disinfect wrote: AHAHHAHAHA 2DG FUCK ME ALREADY.
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
October 18 2011 18:59 GMT
#53
So suppose Taeja is first. Does the Code A seed then go to whoever is second?
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
October 18 2011 19:06 GMT
#54
On October 19 2011 03:59 DoomsVille wrote:
So suppose Taeja is first. Does the Code A seed then go to whoever is second?


Yep. If that person is in Code A/S then it goes to 3rd place, etc etc.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 19:09:52
October 18 2011 19:07 GMT
#55
forGG O.o

edit: I will stay up just for him!
Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 19:09:31
October 18 2011 19:08 GMT
#56
On October 19 2011 03:59 DoomsVille wrote:
So suppose Taeja is first. Does the Code A seed then go to whoever is second?


Ninja'd.

I think Forgg has a chance to advance from the group, taeja may have an off-day :x
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
October 18 2011 19:21 GMT
#57
On October 19 2011 04:08 Baffels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 03:59 DoomsVille wrote:
So suppose Taeja is first. Does the Code A seed then go to whoever is second?


Ninja'd.

I think Forgg has a chance to advance from the group, taeja may have an off-day :x


Don't forget that also two people advance (TL polls don't allow multiple answers T_T)
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Caesarion
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia8332 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 19:24:12
October 18 2011 19:22 GMT
#58
From what I understand of the format, it's top 2 that advances from the group. So, both TaeJa and ForGG can conceivably make it through into the playoffs. We won't have to decide between them, at least for now.

Edit: Diamond got to it first. T.T

Oh right, it's going to be a Bo3 series isn't it?
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 19:26:53
October 18 2011 19:23 GMT
#59
ForGG has a good chance of advancing. He won't beat Taeja (who will? lol). But Tassadar and Nettie aren't particularly good PvT.

Prediction for Group A:

kr Taeja vs. kr Tassadar
kr ForGG vs. kr Nettie
kr Taeja vs. kr ForGG
kr Nettie vs. kr Tassadar
kr ForGG vs. kr Nettie
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
October 18 2011 19:25 GMT
#60
Figured out a better way to do the poll:

Poll: Which 2 players will advance?

SlayerS.Taeja and oGs.ForGG (22)
 
67%

SlayerS.Taeja and NsHS.Tassadar (7)
 
21%

oGs.ForGG and NsHS.Tassadar (3)
 
9%

oGs.ForGG and NettiePrime.WE (1)
 
3%

SlayerS.Taeja and NettiePrime.WE (0)
 
0%

NsHS.Tassadar and NettiePrime.WE (0)
 
0%

33 total votes

Your vote: Which 2 players will advance?

(Vote): SlayerS.Taeja and oGs.ForGG
(Vote): SlayerS.Taeja and NsHS.Tassadar
(Vote): SlayerS.Taeja and NettiePrime.WE
(Vote): oGs.ForGG and NsHS.Tassadar
(Vote): oGs.ForGG and NettiePrime.WE
(Vote): NsHS.Tassadar and NettiePrime.WE


Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
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