EPTHe was just so much ahead, expanding could've let Mana back into the game.
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
He was just so much ahead, expanding could've let Mana back into the game. | ||
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Kaizoku
Sweden96 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:11 VirgilSC2 wrote: My post was sarcastic XD MaNa played much better than TOP did in Game 1, so what does the Top-tier Code S Terran do? 1 Base all-in! Even though you kinda pointed it out well that it was sarcastic.. Sarcasm really doesnt seem to translate well over the internet haha | ||
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SPQR13
181 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:11 dooraven wrote: Phew, Mana with the good sense and choosing Taldarim for the third match. yea he has repeatedly stated taldarim is his favorite map | ||
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:11 Teoita wrote: Polt's build/timing was with marauders, marines, 2 banshees and a raven for pdd. Over time it has been perfected into modern day 1-1-1. Haha, how fitting | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10924 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:12 -Archangel- wrote: Lol this game is full of those attacks. Zergs have to suffer most of those. They would have to remove warp-ins completly to somehow achieve that (or buff basedefenses massively) ^^. | ||
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Ludwigvan
Germany2371 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:10 BuddhaMonk wrote: If he can't beat Mana in a macro game, revert to 1-1-1 variant :p that's what I thought, too. It looks like he didn't know how good MaNa is before playing him. So, he tried to play a normal macro style. I remember MaNa also saying a few month ago that he doesn't practise for the players, he just plays standard in tournaments. ^^ | ||
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:12 VirgilSC2 wrote: You didn't see Game 1 did you? MaNa looks to be really taking advantage of the fact that Code S Terrans haven't been playing many Protoss lately XD I saw game 1, Mana played better that game. Top played better this game | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5225 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:09 Pajegetc wrote: when in doubt, 1-1-1 the better player out. Exactly. I doubt there any one base push in any match up that has near the win percentage that the 1-1-1 does in TvP. At least you can pick off the Tanks now with Immortals. On October 15 2011 00:13 HwangjaeTerran wrote: I actually think 1/1/1 was the best transition there. He was just so much ahead, expanding could've let Mana back into the game. It wasn't a transition. If he does lots of damage, he is ahead and goes and kills him with the 1-1-1. If he does no damage, he is so far behind he can't just expand, he has to 1-1-1. There is (almost) no situation where he would have done anything else. That is a build order that doesn't deviate. And it provides a build order win, or a build order loss. Top flipped a coin, and it give him a win. | ||
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Brainiac
Poland641 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:12 Dr_Jones wrote: OK, FINE. I WILL SWITCH TO TERRAN AND ONEBASE MY WAY TO MASTERS. I KNOW THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT, BLIZZARD, I GUESS IT IS TIME TO OBEY. and in the process, make the entertainment value of the game sink for all the other people who still play it... Plz, just do it. No one cares about your balance whine. Enjoy your ban. | ||
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:10 humbre wrote: yes and the fact he lost 25 probes to harass had nothing with his loss, LOL people are retarded Was gonna say. mana could have held that if he had his probes Anywho, Tal'Darim Altar PvT 42-39 in favour of Terran, still pretty close TOP is 0-1 (wow) Mana is 21-6 (also wow) Again, Mana's wins include Demuslim and Puma | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:12 Kevan wrote: I thought it is better to do a really fast expand vs 1-1-1? The difference bewteen that build and a normal 1-1-1 was the early marine hellion attack that killed a ton of workers and crippled mana's econ so he couldnt produce enough to deal with the push. its up for debate which is the best build to do vs the 1-1-1 in my opinion its phoenix + immortal one base but everyone says different things. | ||
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Whiteman103
United States1070 Posts
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:13 BronzeKnee wrote: Exactly. I doubt there any one base push in any match up that has near the win percentage that the 1-1-1 does in TvP. At least you can pick off the Tanks now with Immortals. Before the nerfs and lots of Zerg tears 2 rax bunker rushing against 15 hatch had same win rate. | ||
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ChaosTerran
Austria844 Posts
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Kilby
Finland1069 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:12 Kevan wrote: I thought it is better to do a really fast expand vs 1-1-1? I have no idea if that is so but for me that sounds odd. How are you supposed to defeat it without units? | ||
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QTIP.
United States2113 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:12 Dr_Jones wrote: OK, FINE. I WILL SWITCH TO TERRAN AND ONEBASE MY WAY TO MASTERS. I KNOW THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT, BLIZZARD, I GUESS IT IS TIME TO OBEY. and in the process, make the entertainment value of the game sink for all the other people who still play it... Stop whining. Mana lost 25 probes to banshees and helions. That's probably why he lost the game. Probably. Idiot. | ||
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Caesarion
Australia8332 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:14 Hassybaby wrote: Was gonna say. mana could have held that if he had his probes Anywho, Tal'Darim Altar PvT 42-39 in favour of Terran, still pretty close TOP is 0-1 (wow) Mana is 21-6 (also wow) Again, Mana's wins include Demuslim and Puma Yeah, MaNa is a beast vT and especially on Taldarim. | ||
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:14 Kilby wrote: I have no idea if that is so but for me that sounds odd. How are you supposed to defeat it without units? By the time it hits, you can get a decent amount of probes at both, and the production that is backed up be said probes | ||
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cilinder007
Slovenia7251 Posts
On October 15 2011 00:09 Derez wrote: The attack by Top wasn't that effective to be honest. 8 marines, a medivac and 3 hellions for just 14 probes. Not exactly the kind of trade you're hoping for doing this as a terran I'd say. 14 probes man, protoss doesnt have mules so killing workers early is very effective | ||
Teoita
Italy12247 Posts
Rofl i just noticed, such irony xD | ||
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