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Standard LR thread rules apply. No caster bashing, no insulting the interviewers, no player bashing, no balance whining. Bans will be doled out to violators so don't shit up this thread with immature garbage.
oniman999
Profile Joined May 2011
United States169 Posts
October 08 2011 19:06 GMT
#5501
Puma and Hero are both amazing. They each took a macro game off each other, and then they bothed chessed in game 3. There is zero reason to call Puma a cheesy player, when they both chessed the same amount. People just can't enjoy the games and this awesome tournament. Time to watch White-Ra and Slush play some awesome games!
deathly rat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom911 Posts
October 08 2011 19:06 GMT
#5502
On October 09 2011 04:04 deathly rat wrote:
White-Ra vs Slush - Shakuras

White Ra top left, Slush top right


slush pool on 13/14 no gas yet, I lost the stream
No logo (logo)
bikefrog
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway451 Posts
October 08 2011 19:06 GMT
#5503
these two current casters really ruin the experience for me. it's like listening to a podcast starring two buds with an awkward sense of humor trying to amuse themselves while casually observing a sc2 game in the background. no professionalism.
Foreigners fighting! Ovethrow our Korean overlords!
MuseMike
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 19:06:42
October 08 2011 19:06 GMT
#5504
I hope white-ra wins and beats the cheesy player he has to play next. Who does white-ra play next?
DoLookMoreLike
Profile Joined January 2011
155 Posts
October 08 2011 19:06 GMT
#5505
On October 09 2011 04:02 ceaRshaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 04:00 Tuk wrote:
what i dont understand is that

both players cheesed , puma had better decision making (or heroes was just bad (the nexus)) but somehow people on hero. :|


Go dig a hole and get inside. PROXY IS NOT CHEESE!!!!!!! And nothing that toss does can compare to 1-1-1. Also, Hero made lots of better decisions in that one game. I don't know why I am answering to you.


Proxy is most definitively a form of cheese. Still, HerO played amazing, too bad he didn't win
Rndm
Bayyne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1967 Posts
October 08 2011 19:06 GMT
#5506
And yet again, Puma beats a fan favorite protoss and gets slack from the mob. The guy will continue to pull out a game like that, continue to beat your favorite protoss, and you will all continue to whine about balance.

Oh and, people criticizing puma's "pride" and "shame". STFU. You play to win, period.
Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
ramon
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4842 Posts
October 08 2011 19:06 GMT
#5507
On October 09 2011 04:06 alepov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 04:04 ramon wrote:
[image loading]
i think i see a pattern~

whitera has a good chance though

pattern being that the stronger player won?


no, koreans own white dudes
bisu
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
October 08 2011 19:06 GMT
#5508
On October 09 2011 04:05 noBode wrote:
Did anyone see when did Puma build the second raven? When the DT went in Puma's main, I figured Hero should target down the tech lab on the starport first so that Puma can't build more Raven since the OC didn't have enough energy for a scan anyway and there's no other way to detect the DTs.


I'm not sure if Painuser is right about there being a second raven. I didn't see the first one go down. He may have just flew it back.
Smurphy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States374 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 19:07:22
October 08 2011 19:06 GMT
#5509
I have no problems with Blizzard, Hero, Puma or the casters. Am I a little disappointed in some things about what they did? Yes, but it is ok. They did their best. They did their job. I don't expect perfection.

However, the camera director at IPL? You suck. You didn't do your job. You're one job is to present to me a game of Starcraft and you didn't.
I can understand and forgive cutting camera to a player's face for 2 seconds at a critical moment. Sometimes it works out well and sometimes it is annoying. Cutting to a player's face for 5 to 10 seconds when the casters are screaming their heads off and the crowd is going wild... what the hell is wrong with you? I can forgive that if you were in the booth and caught in a seizure of nerd chills or a heart attack.

But whether it was nerd chill siezure, a heart attack, or intentional...
NEVER DO IT AGAIN!
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 19:07:16
October 08 2011 19:06 GMT
#5510
Wow Lol stream catching up fast 26k now
GenoPewPew
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States347 Posts
October 08 2011 19:06 GMT
#5511
It wasn't even a normal 1-1-1, the whole game was chaotic and players had to improvise. Hero just made mistakes (not the Nexus)
Caster for GosuGamers.Net and www.binary-gaming.org for my team!
Clog
Profile Joined January 2011
United States950 Posts
October 08 2011 19:06 GMT
#5512
On October 09 2011 04:01 tofubeans wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 03:59 Veldril wrote:
Why did he drop Nexus? If he had sneaked the probe out, then wouldn't it better to build a pylon at the proxy stargate instead so he could produce more phoenix to help? Or drop more warpgates?


in a situation like that it's tough to think all things through straight


Yes, of course it's tough, but that doesn't mean we need to attribute this loss to balance because it was "tough" for this player.

Puma handled the DT in the main quite well (getting another raven, and keeping a bunch of marines in the main to kill it), played very patiently when the initial 111 hit (never lost all of his units, slow bunker pushing and constant cancelling when they didn't go up), and positioning his units quite well in the final engagement, and that's kind of getting ignored for some reason.
NesTea | LosirA | MVP | CoCa | Nada | Ryung | DRG | YongHwa
fraktoasters
Profile Joined January 2011
United States617 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 19:07:31
October 08 2011 19:07 GMT
#5513
On October 09 2011 04:02 Sleight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 03:57 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
agdfdhasjgsjhfgjkgkdfghfggfdj


Jinro explains that game perfectly.

It wasn't just a 1-1-1. Is was a proxy-stargate countered by 1-1-1 transition countered by fast Twight Council.

How could people not notice Puma TARGETTING DOWN THE OBSERVER so his Banshees could cloak with impunity? How could people not notice Hero preparing to proxy the DT before Puma even moved out?

It was a boxing match. Puma slugged a little harder. Great game and I am maining Protoss currently (normally random).


Um Hero lost his obs running into a bunker/raven. Puma didn't actually chase it down.
*the first forward one i mean
Causality~
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway150 Posts
October 08 2011 19:07 GMT
#5514
Isnt it the other way around.... if he goes forge, it means he cant do any fast pressure=/, so no speed needed for dem lingz
Jaedong <3
IVN
Profile Joined October 2010
534 Posts
October 08 2011 19:07 GMT
#5515
On October 09 2011 03:57 NunedQ wrote:
wow that was an awesome game! why is everyone so negative?

I'll tell you.

111 requires next to no skill.

No skill, no gg.



I hope Dustin Browder and David Kim are gonna watch this game, and immediately after throw themselves onto their swords.
RJGooner
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2076 Posts
October 08 2011 19:07 GMT
#5516
Could anyone explain to me how proxy voidray counters the 1-1-1? Cause it looks pretty goddamn bad against it to me.
#1 Jaehoon Fan! 김재훈 화팅!
castled
Profile Joined March 2011
United States322 Posts
October 08 2011 19:07 GMT
#5517
On October 09 2011 04:02 ceaRshaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 04:00 Tuk wrote:
what i dont understand is that

both players cheesed , puma had better decision making (or heroes was just bad (the nexus)) but somehow people on hero. :|


Go dig a hole and get inside. PROXY IS NOT CHEESE!!!!!!! And nothing that toss does can compare to 1-1-1. Also, Hero made lots of better decisions in that one game. I don't know why I am answering to you.

What better decisions did Hero make? Losing his VR for nothing? Going DTs against someone who has Ravens and is in the process of all-in attacking you? Saving to make a nexus against 0 economy where all he has to do is hold and he wins? Not forcefielding his ramp which would have given him time to get enough units? So many mistakes from Hero. Puma doesn't do anything special but he's just really solid and makes no big blunders.
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
October 08 2011 19:07 GMT
#5518
On October 09 2011 04:06 MuseMike wrote:
I hope white-ra wins and beats the cheesy player he has to play next. Who does white-ra play next?


Lol wtf kind of post is this. (He plays huk or KR next.)
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
beamingrobot
Profile Joined October 2010
United States685 Posts
October 08 2011 19:07 GMT
#5519
On October 09 2011 04:05 Feartheguru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 04:03 Yenticha wrote:
On October 09 2011 04:01 beamingrobot wrote:
On October 09 2011 03:59 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On October 09 2011 03:58 Apollo_Shards wrote:
On October 09 2011 03:57 Jtom wrote:
Hero had an excess of 400 minerals after he put down the nexus and he had no warpgate cycles available. It didn't matter that he spent the money on that nexus.


I completely agree. He couldn't get out gateways in time.


that's not a excuse for putting down a nexus. that's him not macroing well on 4gates 1 base


Are you serious? Did you not see the constant chrono on the gates?



Whatever. It all comes down to bad macro. He could have had an extra gateway...
Not saying Hero is bad, the game was awesome and Puma played brilliantly. Just saying that the extra nexus sounded like "obvious" macro mistake...


So protoss makes a few small mistakes auto game over. Terran makes a bunch of mistakes no problem. How could I never have thought of this. DAVID KIM HIRE THIS MAN.


He had like 4 or 5 gateways on 1 base. More gates would mean idle gates which viewers will then say that he should have cut down on the number of gates.
Jtom
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland1044 Posts
October 08 2011 19:07 GMT
#5520
On October 09 2011 04:06 bikefrog wrote:
these two current casters really ruin the experience for me. it's like listening to a podcast starring two buds with an awkward sense of humor trying to amuse themselves while casually observing a sc2 game in the background. no professionalism.

They're better than Painuser and HD.
"Daddy, how did the Protossaurs go extinct?" "A giant EMP hit the earth" - Fionn
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