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Woizit
Profile Joined June 2011
801 Posts
October 08 2011 19:07 GMT
#5521
Sad that Hero lost. You've got to give it to Puma that he's the best terran at executing 1-1-1 though, so many others have screwed it up before.
obsKura
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland1061 Posts
October 08 2011 19:07 GMT
#5522
On October 09 2011 03:57 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
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I spit my Coke, don't do it master. :D
C9 ~^v^~ In EE-sama we trust. ~^v^~ C9
Tyree
Profile Joined November 2010
1508 Posts
October 08 2011 19:07 GMT
#5523
This is a odd build from WhiteRa... i am sure he has a idea what to do with it, he isent just randomly throwing stuff up
★ Top Gun ★
Mike15xp
Profile Joined December 2010
United States595 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 19:07:43
October 08 2011 19:07 GMT
#5524
On October 09 2011 04:06 MuseMike wrote:
I hope white-ra wins and beats the cheesy player he has to play next. Who does white-ra play next?


hahahaha hope he wins though so i can be happy again after hero lost TT
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 19:08:44
October 08 2011 19:07 GMT
#5525
On October 09 2011 04:05 poorcloud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 04:03 TheKefka wrote:
One day we will look at the older version of this great starcraft game and laugh at how it was possible for marines to have the kind of dps they had back than and that the mule existed.
Can't wait.


Or one day, we will look back and laugh at why protoss had to resort to gimmicky 1 base strats to hold this 1 1 1 push. I'm certain someone will come up with an expansion timing to hold this off. We already saw glimpses of this from Tails.

I never mentioned anything about holding the 1-1-1 in my post.
I just thought I should make a hopeful,honest 2k post.
Cackle™
ChaosTerran
Profile Joined August 2011
Austria844 Posts
October 08 2011 19:07 GMT
#5526
On October 09 2011 04:03 BoBiNoU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 04:00 Whiteman103 wrote:
On October 09 2011 04:00 BoBiNoU wrote:
On October 09 2011 03:58 arfyron wrote:
On October 09 2011 03:57 worldchrisis wrote:
Fuck Terran. Ban me I don't care. Fuck Terran and fuck Puma for just 111 cheesing every game against Protosss


You undermine your arguments when you say puma 111s every game when that is clearly not true.


Is there actually one BoX where Puma DID not 1-1-1 at least one game in TvP ?
I dont think so.

Sad for Hero who was a beast on this one.



yes NASL finales


did you watch those games ?
He 1-1-1 at least 2 of the 3 games he won -_-


he didn't 1-1-1 at all, get your facts straight.
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
October 08 2011 19:07 GMT
#5527
Whenever I see an army with crucio tanks beating an army with any amount of immortals or chargelots in it, it's a great feeling. 1-1-1 is almost the only build where you see that.

Also I called the 1-1-1, nice job Puma!
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dangerjoe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark1866 Posts
October 08 2011 19:07 GMT
#5528
No forge expo by whitera - sexy
Ask Beavis, I get nothing Butt-head
alepov
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands1132 Posts
October 08 2011 19:07 GMT
#5529
On October 09 2011 04:06 ramon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 04:06 alepov wrote:
On October 09 2011 04:04 ramon wrote:
[image loading]
i think i see a pattern~

whitera has a good chance though

pattern being that the stronger player won?


no, koreans own white dudes

same thing ^^
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
j0ker
Profile Joined August 2011
275 Posts
October 08 2011 19:07 GMT
#5530
On October 09 2011 04:05 noBode wrote:
Did anyone see when did Puma build the second raven? When the DT went in Puma's main, I figured Hero should target down the tech lab on the starport first so that Puma can't build more Raven since the OC didn't have enough energy for a scan anyway and there's no other way to detect the DTs.


it wasnt on screen, but all you have to do is start the production before the add-on dies and it will go through.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
October 08 2011 19:07 GMT
#5531
On October 09 2011 04:06 alepov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 04:04 ramon wrote:
[image loading]
i think i see a pattern~

whitera has a good chance though

pattern being that the stronger player won?

More like the korean player won
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
October 08 2011 19:07 GMT
#5532
On October 09 2011 04:05 Jason54178 wrote:
Can you guys stop hating on Puma and Terrans? It's like no one reads the damn text at the top.

Obviously the stuff means nothing tho since people dont get banned sooo ya. screw you terran
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ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
October 08 2011 19:07 GMT
#5533
On October 09 2011 04:06 alepov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 04:04 ramon wrote:
[image loading]
i think i see a pattern~

whitera has a good chance though

pattern being that the stronger player won?


Keep telling you that terran boy.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
October 08 2011 19:08 GMT
#5534
On October 09 2011 04:05 LetoAtreides82 wrote:
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On October 09 2011 04:03 SMD wrote:
On October 09 2011 04:02 RJGooner wrote:
I can only laugh at the people raging at Puma. Seriously, Hero goes for a proxy stargate and Puma wins the game with great army control and decision making and people give shit for it.


Making marines and losing all scvs is a very good terran strategy.


Making proxy stargate against bunker + viking, and dt vs ravens is a very good protoss strategy.


I don't get it. people keep saying the DTs was a big mistake, yet Hero killed all of Terran's SCVs with one DT. Your argument is basically "well terran doesn't need SCVs once 111 is up" and there is something wrong with that.
"that is our ethos; free content, starcraft content, websites that work occasionally" -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
October 08 2011 19:08 GMT
#5535
On October 09 2011 04:03 andaylin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 04:02 me_viet wrote:
On October 09 2011 03:57 worldchrisis wrote:
Fuck Terran. Ban me I don't care. Fuck Terran and fuck Puma for just 111 cheesing every game against Protosss


LOL he 1-1-1'd ONE game out of that series, and I don't think he was planning to all-in, but after the proxy stargate...

Cya, hope we don't see you back here.

LOL pretty sure he was planning on it when you saw the fast second gas and banshee and cloak BEFORE stargate


And Hero tried to blind counter it with a proxy Stargate, that's the classic move. You could even tell that Puma was going to 1/1/1 by just his map choice.
And Puma is probably aware that Hero knows too.

1/1/1 is just that strong, you can blindly doing it and the opponent try to blindly counter it, your chances to win never go below 50% anyway.
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
October 08 2011 19:08 GMT
#5536
On October 09 2011 04:07 doko100 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 04:03 BoBiNoU wrote:
On October 09 2011 04:00 Whiteman103 wrote:
On October 09 2011 04:00 BoBiNoU wrote:
On October 09 2011 03:58 arfyron wrote:
On October 09 2011 03:57 worldchrisis wrote:
Fuck Terran. Ban me I don't care. Fuck Terran and fuck Puma for just 111 cheesing every game against Protosss


You undermine your arguments when you say puma 111s every game when that is clearly not true.


Is there actually one BoX where Puma DID not 1-1-1 at least one game in TvP ?
I dont think so.

Sad for Hero who was a beast on this one.



yes NASL finales


did you watch those games ?
He 1-1-1 at least 2 of the 3 games he won -_-


he didn't 1-1-1 at all, get your facts straight.

He did 1/1/1 squirtle at NASL.
Vocal
Profile Joined October 2011
116 Posts
October 08 2011 19:08 GMT
#5537
On October 09 2011 04:02 ceaRshaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 04:00 Tuk wrote:
what i dont understand is that

both players cheesed , puma had better decision making (or heroes was just bad (the nexus)) but somehow people on hero. :|


Go dig a hole and get inside. PROXY IS NOT CHEESE!!!!!!! And nothing that toss does can compare to 1-1-1. Also, Hero made lots of better decisions in that one game. I don't know why I am answering to you.


Cheese
"Cheese is a pejorative expression which refers to a strategy that is highly unconventional and designed to take one's opponent by surprise. In general, cheese is hard to beat if not scouted but easy to defeat if it is scouted."

I don't know about you but if I scouted a PROXY Stargate, I'd prepare for it and easily counter it. Proxy Stargate is even listed as an example on the page.

But for the sake of discussion, 1/1/1+pulling SCVs is not cheese. It's an "all-in" build. I really don't get why foreigners throw terms out when it doesn't apply. It's like, in order to downplay the accomplishment of the better player, Puma in this case, unnecessary and inaccurate discussions are started. I'm a Hero fan but he lost this series fair and square, end of story.
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
October 08 2011 19:08 GMT
#5538
On October 09 2011 04:07 doko100 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 04:03 BoBiNoU wrote:
On October 09 2011 04:00 Whiteman103 wrote:
On October 09 2011 04:00 BoBiNoU wrote:
On October 09 2011 03:58 arfyron wrote:
On October 09 2011 03:57 worldchrisis wrote:
Fuck Terran. Ban me I don't care. Fuck Terran and fuck Puma for just 111 cheesing every game against Protosss


You undermine your arguments when you say puma 111s every game when that is clearly not true.


Is there actually one BoX where Puma DID not 1-1-1 at least one game in TvP ?
I dont think so.

Sad for Hero who was a beast on this one.



yes NASL finales


did you watch those games ?
He 1-1-1 at least 2 of the 3 games he won -_-


he didn't 1-1-1 at all, get your facts straight.


Hah you do know he made a push with banshee/raven/marine/siege tanks ? Thats 1/1/1
Executor1
Profile Joined April 2011
1353 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 19:08:58
October 08 2011 19:08 GMT
#5539
On October 09 2011 04:04 ParasitJonte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 04:00 jmbthirteen wrote:
On October 09 2011 03:59 Klyberess wrote:
yeah guys HERO is the guy who cheesed FYI gosu puma fighting!

proxy stargate into proxy dt and people complain about puma cheesing... oh the irony


Both were anti 1-1-1 measures. He KNEW 1-1-1 was coming and wanted to stop it before anything could happen. However, he canceled the void ray and missed his timing. Having scouted the terran base he prepared a solid strategy: stay at one expanion, take minimal damage and counter with DTs.

He didn't cheese at all. This was a straight up anti-1-1-1 build. Executed very well throughout. But what do you know, terran wins.

Yea it was pretty obvious that puma was gonna do 1/1/1 its the build he always falls back on, id say that 60% of his TVP's are 1/1/1 and the other 40 are when he fakes the 1/1/1. Its not his fault i just wish blizzard would do something about it.

You know its bad when a PRO player knows a build is coming takes all the measures neccesary but still cant beat it a good portion of the time. Protoss should have at least 1 strat that makes them 1/1/1 proof if they know its coming. God knows if a terran knows that a protoss all in is coming they have a very good chance of stopping it if they take the right measures.
Whiteman103
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1070 Posts
October 08 2011 19:08 GMT
#5540
On October 09 2011 04:03 BoBiNoU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 04:00 Whiteman103 wrote:
On October 09 2011 04:00 BoBiNoU wrote:
On October 09 2011 03:58 arfyron wrote:
On October 09 2011 03:57 worldchrisis wrote:
Fuck Terran. Ban me I don't care. Fuck Terran and fuck Puma for just 111 cheesing every game against Protosss


You undermine your arguments when you say puma 111s every game when that is clearly not true.


Is there actually one BoX where Puma DID not 1-1-1 at least one game in TvP ?
I dont think so.

Sad for Hero who was a beast on this one.



yes NASL finales


did you watch those games ?
He 1-1-1 at least 2 of the 3 games he won -_-


the series was a BO7 so he won 4 games not 2 and he didnt 1-1-1. that build was not all that popular
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