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Remember guys; no caster bashing, balancing whining or player abuse - you guys should know this by now!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 07 2011 21:08 GMT
#5241
On October 08 2011 06:07 Drazerk wrote:
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[quote]

In the bottom location is Sleep

While in the left is Hero


1:30

Hero has placed a pylon down his ramp


2:10

Pool first for sleep

Forge on the way for Hero


2:50

Pylon blocking the natural of sleep


3:30

Natural on the way for hero


4:00

Six lings out for sleep and has killed the pylon and started his natural

Lings now working on the back rocks


5:30

More lings in production for sleep along with his gas

Core for Hero


6:20

Sleep is attacking the forge of hero


7:00

Forge goes down but probes block the lings and force them out with a zealot's help


7:50

Stargate and the natural's gas for hero along with +1

sleep finishing his lair and knocking down the gold rocks


8:50

Ling speed on the way for Sleep along with hydra den

Stargate was cancelled and now a robo is on the way
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
October 07 2011 21:08 GMT
#5242
Hydra drops?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 07 2011 21:08 GMT
#5243
On October 08 2011 06:08 Drazerk wrote:
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On October 08 2011 06:07 Drazerk wrote:
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On October 08 2011 06:04 Drazerk wrote:
On October 08 2011 06:03 Drazerk wrote:
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[quote]

1:30

Hero has placed a pylon down his ramp


2:10

Pool first for sleep

Forge on the way for Hero


2:50

Pylon blocking the natural of sleep


3:30

Natural on the way for hero


4:00

Six lings out for sleep and has killed the pylon and started his natural

Lings now working on the back rocks


5:30

More lings in production for sleep along with his gas

Core for Hero


6:20

Sleep is attacking the forge of hero


7:00

Forge goes down but probes block the lings and force them out with a zealot's help


7:50

Stargate and the natural's gas for hero along with +1

sleep finishing his lair and knocking down the gold rocks


8:50

Ling speed on the way for Sleep along with hydra den

Stargate was cancelled and now a robo is on the way


9:30

Warp prism on the way for hero
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
October 07 2011 21:08 GMT
#5244
so those that get into the main tourney from the open bracket - winner of each bracket and those that get to round 7 of losers bracket, yes?
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
October 07 2011 21:08 GMT
#5245
I'm a bit surprised he decided to go for the forge there. I mean yeah, if he broke it down and got in there he'd kill a lot, and it has less HP... but killing the lone gateway or the cyber core coulda been even bigger and slightly less risky.

Oh sick warp prism, gonna get back to watching.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
October 07 2011 21:09 GMT
#5246
hells yah warp prism hero!
Spuick
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway357 Posts
October 07 2011 21:09 GMT
#5247
Lucky timing from sleep zzzzz
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
October 07 2011 21:09 GMT
#5248
LOL clutch OV scout
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
October 07 2011 21:09 GMT
#5249
On October 08 2011 06:07 Azarkon wrote:
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On October 08 2011 06:01 tree.hugger wrote:
On October 08 2011 05:56 mTw|NarutO wrote:
On October 08 2011 05:53 tree.hugger wrote:
On October 08 2011 05:49 mTw|NarutO wrote:
On October 08 2011 05:47 tree.hugger wrote:
Let's correct some mis-information okay?

SeleCT is on the same level as ThorZaIN (better micro, worse macro), but I think it's been months since SeleCT practiced on the NA server. It's a stretch to call him an NA player. QXC got much better with his stay in KR, and even his time in EU. More of an NA player but still a stretch. MajOr is good, but super predictable and now he's in KR, so he's not really an NA terran either.

Regarding zergs, saying IdrA is as good as EU zergs is hilarious, I count at least five better zergs than IdrA (Stephano, Nerchio, Ret, MorroW and DIMAGA in that order) from Europe, and one (Sheth) from NA.


I disagree about the Zergs. I cannot say IdrA is WORSE or better than them, but I think it really depends on his daily play. Sometimes he's outstanding, sometimes insanely 'weak' or disappointing. Same for DIMAGA for example.

That's a fair point, DIMAGA is extremely inconsistent and terrible against certain styles. But I'd say that the first three (Stephano, Nerchio, Ret) are better than IdrA all the time, and that MorroW, Sheth, and DIMAGA usually are.


I don't know and I don't want to discuss as I think its really hard to seperate players in Starcraft 2 from each other. No one is outstanding or super constant and a game or series is easily lost. Ret for example is beastly .. but thats because he's super greedy. If he gets punished, he dies. If he doesn't, he wins.

So... all the players you named are very good and very close in skill, but all of them have their highs and downs. As I said I think its very hard to seperate all of them into different skill levels as IdrA did show amazing games vs PuMa or single series at MLG while he also did show terrible play in some other situations.

It really depends on the matchup, match, series etc... Overall that player discussion really is not doing anyone any good.
I think that used to be the case for Ret, but he's gotten much much cleverer and better at reading his opponent. I can't really tell Stephano, Nerchio, and Ret apart, and they all have different styles, it's quite neat. They're probably the top three foreigners at the moment actually.

Nothing I saw from IdrA demonstrated to me that he's solved some of the most fundamental mistakes that I think he makes with his play. He's definitely better than he was last month though. And he didn't leave some games as early as he used to, but I don't think that's improvement, per se.


IdrA in IEM Guangzhou demonstrates to me that he solved quite a few of his personal issues. Yes, he lost in a stupid manner against Elfi, but he fixed that for the finals - and that shows a huge amount of progress for someone like IdrA who used to play very mechanically and blames balance whenever that fails.

Course, it remains to be seen whether that carries over to IPL.


I will say that Puma did do more to defeat himself and Elfi just played bad in the finals but it might be enough to break himself out of his slump.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 07 2011 21:09 GMT
#5250
On October 08 2011 06:08 Drazerk wrote:
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[quote]

2:10

Pool first for sleep

Forge on the way for Hero


2:50

Pylon blocking the natural of sleep


3:30

Natural on the way for hero


4:00

Six lings out for sleep and has killed the pylon and started his natural

Lings now working on the back rocks


5:30

More lings in production for sleep along with his gas

Core for Hero


6:20

Sleep is attacking the forge of hero


7:00

Forge goes down but probes block the lings and force them out with a zealot's help


7:50

Stargate and the natural's gas for hero along with +1

sleep finishing his lair and knocking down the gold rocks


8:50

Ling speed on the way for Sleep along with hydra den

Stargate was cancelled and now a robo is on the way


9:30

Warp prism on the way for hero


10:00

Hydra range and spire for sleep who scouts the warp prism

Twilight council for Hero
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
October 07 2011 21:09 GMT
#5251
I just noticed the race icon for both is terran... lol
♞Nerdrage is the cause of global warming♞
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
October 07 2011 21:09 GMT
#5252
Its so fucking cool to see that Warp Prism play has become almost standard.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
October 07 2011 21:09 GMT
#5253
yay warp prism sentry play
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
jazzyjazz
Profile Joined October 2010
941 Posts
October 07 2011 21:09 GMT
#5254
who else is watching the stream at 240p?
Eat emmmmmmmmmm
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
October 07 2011 21:09 GMT
#5255
robo bay going down for hero
LetoAtreides82
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1188 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 21:10:11
October 07 2011 21:09 GMT
#5256
On October 08 2011 06:06 Goshdarnit wrote:
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On October 08 2011 06:03 zarepath wrote:
Dimaga has such bad ZvT that he's the only foreigner to ever beat MVP at anything ever.

I'm too lazy to fact-check that, but I think I might be right.


He is very inconsistent vs T, stephano, nerchio and idra are all more consistent than him.

He beat nestea in a zvz. The first person to do it on tv ever.
Sooo, like I said dimaga is extremely talented at zvz.


He beat Nestea in just one game right? Can't really say much from just one game. I wouldn't say his zvz is better than Nestea's.
The spice must flow
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 07 2011 21:09 GMT
#5257
seen sase do that several times, nice to see him doing it :D
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 07 2011 21:09 GMT
#5258
On October 08 2011 06:09 Drazerk wrote:
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On October 08 2011 06:08 Drazerk wrote:
On October 08 2011 06:08 Drazerk wrote:
On October 08 2011 06:07 Drazerk wrote:
On October 08 2011 06:07 Drazerk wrote:
On October 08 2011 06:06 Drazerk wrote:
On October 08 2011 06:06 Drazerk wrote:
On October 08 2011 06:05 Drazerk wrote:
On October 08 2011 06:04 Drazerk wrote:
On October 08 2011 06:04 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

2:50

Pylon blocking the natural of sleep


3:30

Natural on the way for hero


4:00

Six lings out for sleep and has killed the pylon and started his natural

Lings now working on the back rocks


5:30

More lings in production for sleep along with his gas

Core for Hero


6:20

Sleep is attacking the forge of hero


7:00

Forge goes down but probes block the lings and force them out with a zealot's help


7:50

Stargate and the natural's gas for hero along with +1

sleep finishing his lair and knocking down the gold rocks


8:50

Ling speed on the way for Sleep along with hydra den

Stargate was cancelled and now a robo is on the way


9:30

Warp prism on the way for hero


10:00

Hydra range and spire for sleep who scouts the warp prism

Twilight council for Hero


11:00

Robo bay for Hero

melee +1 and the gold base for sleep
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45286 Posts
October 07 2011 21:09 GMT
#5259
Nice FF drone trap!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
PeggyHill
Profile Joined February 2011
1494 Posts
October 07 2011 21:09 GMT
#5260
Sleep going muta
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