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Remember guys; no caster bashing, balancing whining or player abuse - you guys should know this by now!
Khalleb
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1909 Posts
October 07 2011 21:07 GMT
#5221
On October 08 2011 06:06 PeggyHill wrote:
Hero forgot warp gate?

he always get stargate bfr warpgate
Liquid'Nony: "I only needed one probe to take down idra. I had to upgrade to a zealot for strelok."
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
October 07 2011 21:07 GMT
#5222
woa soo god micro hero!!!
yo
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
October 07 2011 21:07 GMT
#5223
Wow that is a LOT of lings thrown away.
DuB phool
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1003 Posts
October 07 2011 21:07 GMT
#5224
On October 08 2011 06:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
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On October 08 2011 06:04 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 08 2011 06:03 leandroqm wrote:
On October 08 2011 06:03 ceaRshaf wrote:
Bad icons. Tvt?


you beat me to it =D


Since Shattered Temple is in Central America, both players are playing off-race.

But that's not a continent... clearly you meant Antarctica?


Central America is in Antarctica.

But that makes all Random players Korean... I'm so confused. I give up.
"overwatch is jesus" - motbob 2016
Denar
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1633 Posts
October 07 2011 21:07 GMT
#5225
On October 08 2011 06:06 Antithesis wrote:
Wait, was the whole tournament play today delayed until now? Just came back, so I didn't miss anything so far?

successkid.jpg


You only missed Thorzain - Select indeed
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 07 2011 21:07 GMT
#5226
On October 08 2011 06:06 Drazerk wrote:
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Game Two on Shattered temple

Hero vs Sleep


In the bottom location is Sleep

While in the left is Hero


1:30

Hero has placed a pylon down his ramp


2:10

Pool first for sleep

Forge on the way for Hero


2:50

Pylon blocking the natural of sleep


3:30

Natural on the way for hero


4:00

Six lings out for sleep and has killed the pylon and started his natural

Lings now working on the back rocks


5:30

More lings in production for sleep along with his gas

Core for Hero


6:20

Sleep is attacking the forge of hero


7:00

Forge goes down but probes block the lings and force them out with a zealot's help
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
October 07 2011 21:07 GMT
#5227
HerO looks awesome.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
khanofmongols
Profile Joined January 2011
542 Posts
October 07 2011 21:07 GMT
#5228
wtf was sleep thinking there with all those lings?
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
October 07 2011 21:07 GMT
#5229
Please PM if you know what map G1 of HerO v Sleep was played on.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 21:08:55
October 07 2011 21:07 GMT
#5230
On October 08 2011 06:01 tree.hugger wrote:
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On October 08 2011 05:56 mTw|NarutO wrote:
On October 08 2011 05:53 tree.hugger wrote:
On October 08 2011 05:49 mTw|NarutO wrote:
On October 08 2011 05:47 tree.hugger wrote:
Let's correct some mis-information okay?

SeleCT is on the same level as ThorZaIN (better micro, worse macro), but I think it's been months since SeleCT practiced on the NA server. It's a stretch to call him an NA player. QXC got much better with his stay in KR, and even his time in EU. More of an NA player but still a stretch. MajOr is good, but super predictable and now he's in KR, so he's not really an NA terran either.

Regarding zergs, saying IdrA is as good as EU zergs is hilarious, I count at least five better zergs than IdrA (Stephano, Nerchio, Ret, MorroW and DIMAGA in that order) from Europe, and one (Sheth) from NA.


I disagree about the Zergs. I cannot say IdrA is WORSE or better than them, but I think it really depends on his daily play. Sometimes he's outstanding, sometimes insanely 'weak' or disappointing. Same for DIMAGA for example.

That's a fair point, DIMAGA is extremely inconsistent and terrible against certain styles. But I'd say that the first three (Stephano, Nerchio, Ret) are better than IdrA all the time, and that MorroW, Sheth, and DIMAGA usually are.


I don't know and I don't want to discuss as I think its really hard to seperate players in Starcraft 2 from each other. No one is outstanding or super constant and a game or series is easily lost. Ret for example is beastly .. but thats because he's super greedy. If he gets punished, he dies. If he doesn't, he wins.

So... all the players you named are very good and very close in skill, but all of them have their highs and downs. As I said I think its very hard to seperate all of them into different skill levels as IdrA did show amazing games vs PuMa or single series at MLG while he also did show terrible play in some other situations.

It really depends on the matchup, match, series etc... Overall that player discussion really is not doing anyone any good.
I think that used to be the case for Ret, but he's gotten much much cleverer and better at reading his opponent. I can't really tell Stephano, Nerchio, and Ret apart, and they all have different styles, it's quite neat. They're probably the top three foreigners at the moment actually.

Nothing I saw from IdrA demonstrated to me that he's solved some of the most fundamental mistakes that I think he makes with his play. He's definitely better than he was last month though. And he didn't leave some games as early as he used to, but I don't think that's improvement, per se.


IdrA in IEM Guangzhou demonstrated to me that he solved quite a few of his personal issues. Yes, he lost in a stupid manner against Elfi, but he fixed that for the finals - and that shows a huge amount of progress for someone like IdrA who used to play very mechanically and blames balance whenever that fails.

Course, it remains to be seen whether that carries over to IPL.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
October 07 2011 21:07 GMT
#5231
That was just sad.... I hate watching zerg lose
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 07 2011 21:07 GMT
#5232
On October 08 2011 06:07 Drazerk wrote:
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Game Two on Shattered temple

Hero vs Sleep


In the bottom location is Sleep

While in the left is Hero


1:30

Hero has placed a pylon down his ramp


2:10

Pool first for sleep

Forge on the way for Hero


2:50

Pylon blocking the natural of sleep


3:30

Natural on the way for hero


4:00

Six lings out for sleep and has killed the pylon and started his natural

Lings now working on the back rocks


5:30

More lings in production for sleep along with his gas

Core for Hero


6:20

Sleep is attacking the forge of hero


7:00

Forge goes down but probes block the lings and force them out with a zealot's help


7:50

Stargate and the natural's gas for hero along with +1

sleep finishing his lair and knocking down the gold rocks
vincom2
Profile Joined June 2011
Singapore1775 Posts
October 07 2011 21:07 GMT
#5233
Special tactics coming up!
jazzyjazz
Profile Joined October 2010
941 Posts
October 07 2011 21:08 GMT
#5234
did the previous games of group c get skipped?
Eat emmmmmmmmmm
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
October 07 2011 21:08 GMT
#5235
I have to admit though... Sleep way overplayed that
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
October 07 2011 21:08 GMT
#5236
On October 08 2011 06:06 Antithesis wrote:
Wait, was the whole tournament play today delayed until now? Just came back, so I didn't miss anything so far?

successkid.jpg

Lol... all you've missed is SeleCT vs. ThorZain... you lucky bastard. Some of us have been sitting here for 6 hours lol
RockStarCrft
Profile Joined February 2011
Turkey470 Posts
October 07 2011 21:08 GMT
#5237
Come on LiquidHERO, i believe in you!
Artisane
Profile Joined April 2011
United States134 Posts
October 07 2011 21:08 GMT
#5238
So, what's with the schedule.. are they shifting matches around?
Goshdarnit
Profile Joined August 2011
United States540 Posts
October 07 2011 21:08 GMT
#5239
On October 08 2011 06:04 LetoAtreides82 wrote:
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On October 08 2011 06:00 Goshdarnit wrote:
Reading other comments I just don't understand why people think dimaga is worse than the other zergs. TBH his other race match-ups may not be as strong as nerchio or stephano, and dimaga is weak vs T. BUT I am pretty sure dimaga is the best zvz foreigner zerg, he is definately better than stephano and he seems to be able to be nerchio more than he loses to him, as for idra idk tbh, but I feel dimaga is at least as good based on my bias and not being impressed by idra's decent zvz.


Why focus on zvz?


I focused on zvz, because they are all z and people seemed to be saying that certain players are better than others, I being a fan of dimaga pointed out that even if people are saying that he is worse than other players he could still beat all of those players if he played against the directly.
Ranti
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland24 Posts
October 07 2011 21:08 GMT
#5240
I wonder if someone recorded huk vs boxer in bw because i missed it. If so plx link.
Boxer|Huk|Thorzain|MMA|Fantasy
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