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Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 13:08:41
October 23 2011 13:08 GMT
#4441
On October 23 2011 22:06 Sandermatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 21:59 Asha` wrote:
Grubby must have had units somewhere else? That was like, 30 supply on the map not in the battle?


If you didn't see it now on kahldors stream. Marineking had 2/2 upgrades and the zealots had no armor upgrades, therefore the zealots just melted. The supply that Grubby had in the end was just probes and recently warped in units. No units of Grubby were outside the fight.


ty, I tabbed out. Upgrades and zealots engaging before anything else pretty much answers everything.
lololol
Profile Joined February 2006
5198 Posts
October 23 2011 13:09 GMT
#4442
On October 23 2011 22:06 Sandermatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 21:59 Asha` wrote:
Grubby must have had units somewhere else? That was like, 30 supply on the map not in the battle?


If you didn't see it now on kahldors stream. Marineking had 2/2 upgrades and the zealots had no armor upgrades, therefore the zealots just melted. The supply that Grubby had in the end was just probes and recently warped in units. No units of Grubby were outside the fight.


He clearly had 10 supply of units outside the fight, two zealots at the top base and a stalker + 2 zealots at the bottom base, MKP also had ~15 supply more, so he had a 25 supply advantage in the battle and 2/2 vs 2/0(I didn't notice when the second upgrade finished, but it was just about to finish before the fight)
I'll call Nada.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
October 23 2011 13:14 GMT
#4443
On October 23 2011 22:05 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 22:00 clusen wrote:
On October 23 2011 21:59 Asha` wrote:
Grubby must have had units somewhere else? That was like, 30 supply on the map not in the battle?

Maybe drop defense or something, his army evaporated SO FAST


Nope Khaldor replayed it and pretty much everything was there. 20 Emped zealots die in 0.0000000001 seconds. Gotta love ghosts.


Right 2-2 vs 1-0 made no difference there. "IMBA IMBA"
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
October 23 2011 13:17 GMT
#4444
On October 23 2011 22:14 mTw|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 22:05 tomatriedes wrote:
On October 23 2011 22:00 clusen wrote:
On October 23 2011 21:59 Asha` wrote:
Grubby must have had units somewhere else? That was like, 30 supply on the map not in the battle?

Maybe drop defense or something, his army evaporated SO FAST


Nope Khaldor replayed it and pretty much everything was there. 20 Emped zealots die in 0.0000000001 seconds. Gotta love ghosts.


Right 2-2 vs 1-0 made no difference there. "IMBA IMBA"


That and having a bigger army, that helps too.

It was a timing attack with 2/2, with a bigger army. Oh and it's Marineking, he's kinda ok with bio.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
October 23 2011 13:17 GMT
#4445
Can someone please tell me when do the finals start? Thanks.
covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
October 23 2011 13:17 GMT
#4446
How long more till finals?
MartinN
Profile Joined April 2011
Spain307 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-23 13:19:09
October 23 2011 13:18 GMT
#4447
sc2 final next to cs female final in http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xhouu5_live-netgtv-eswc_videogames
gwixter
Profile Joined January 2011
Slovakia336 Posts
October 23 2011 13:18 GMT
#4448
finals will be @16:30CET
"If you can chill, chill" - Liquid`Tyler || <3 Kiira Korpi :D
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
October 23 2011 13:19 GMT
#4449
Finals in about 70 minutes
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
October 23 2011 13:19 GMT
#4450
On October 23 2011 22:17 dmnum wrote:
Can someone please tell me when do the finals start? Thanks.


IN 1 hour 10 minutes. 4.30 centreal european time,
Agathon
Profile Joined February 2011
France1505 Posts
October 23 2011 13:19 GMT
#4451
On October 23 2011 22:17 covetousrat wrote:
How long more till finals?


1 hour and 10 min
"C'est au pied du mur, qu'on voit le mieux...le mur".
Assaulter
Profile Joined December 2010
Lithuania324 Posts
October 23 2011 13:20 GMT
#4452
lol khaldor just doesn't get it... "thor to counter zealots?' also dustin browder says clearly "this is not how its going to look in a real esports engagement, but you'll get the idea" and then he complains that not many hellions die
Seiniyta
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium1815 Posts
October 23 2011 13:30 GMT
#4453
Khalor's response to every new terran unit is pretty funny :p Especially the shredder :p
Pokemon Master
halvorg
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Norway717 Posts
October 23 2011 13:31 GMT
#4454
Khaldor is discussing game balance, doa game design. Only the latter is useful at this stage imo : )
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
October 23 2011 13:31 GMT
#4455
omg Khaldor is such a crybaby...

Zerg changes look way more scary for Terran than vice versa, yet Khaldor will probably call them incredibly cool etc
Terran changes are best for mech TvP imo.
Member of TPW mapmaking team/// twitter.com/Ragoo_ /// "goody represents border between explainable reason and supernatural" Cloud
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
October 23 2011 13:31 GMT
#4456
Damn, Khaldor is balance raging hard.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
aTo
Profile Joined September 2011
Austria588 Posts
October 23 2011 13:33 GMT
#4457
lol khaldor..
u think blizzard game balance guys dont know what they doing?
that's btw what 90% of the community is thinking.. that they make a game without knowing what they do... cmon guys.. -_-
zap zap zap
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
October 23 2011 13:38 GMT
#4458
On October 23 2011 22:33 aTo wrote:
lol khaldor..
u think blizzard game balance guys dont know what they doing?
that's btw what 90% of the community is thinking.. that they make a game without knowing what they do... cmon guys.. -_-

Actually, they don't know THAT much what they are doing initially. They a pretty much throwing ideas, then they let the pros test it and they react accordingly, and thats the right way to go about it imo.
Cualen
Profile Joined October 2011
13 Posts
October 23 2011 13:38 GMT
#4459
It was said that the battle Hellion gains HP.
I think that indicates that it cannot change back, otherwise what would happen to the hitpoints, especially if they lost some already?
Also, they didn't show a change back animation.
So, it may cost gas to change it.
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
October 23 2011 13:38 GMT
#4460
The problem with Khaldor is not so much his rant against terran, but the fact that he's a bronze player and his arguments are typically very superficial.
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