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xAPOCALYPSEx
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
1418 Posts
October 03 2011 02:55 GMT
#341
The stream link not being on the calender is really hurting viewership I feel

Awesome that IdrA may take this series, my hope for him has been waning in the past months but he looks to be playing awesomely here!
jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
October 03 2011 02:55 GMT
#342
just realised how stacked the brackets are on one side.
o.o
Lee Ssang/ Lee Shin/ Kim Jung Woo/ Kim Min Chul/Jun Tae Yang/Park Soo Ho/Lee Jung Hoon/Choi Sung Hoon/ Moon Sung Won/Park Ji Soo/ Lee Ho Joon/ Jang Min Chul/ Kim Seung Chul/SaSe/IdrA/Ret Fighting! BW4Life
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
October 03 2011 02:55 GMT
#343
On October 03 2011 11:54 templar rage wrote:
Over/under 9 supply on Revival's pool in Game 4?

Definitely over. Under doesn't work on metalopolis.

In close air, you get the scout.

In cross positions, you're so far away that anything but a 6 pool is defendable even with hatch first.
NorthsReturn
Profile Joined November 2010
United States50 Posts
October 03 2011 02:56 GMT
#344
idra playing such great and entertaining zvz. now finish out the series greg!
_Sejanus_
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada94 Posts
October 03 2011 02:56 GMT
#345
Hatch first by both.. hopefully Idra doesn't make that extra round of drones this game and avoids a game 2 repeat.
woob
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1322 Posts
October 03 2011 02:56 GMT
#346
revival is always ahead of idra i noticed, since he does the extractor trick, i might start using it myself
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ez
Dawski
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada435 Posts
October 03 2011 02:57 GMT
#347
they need to update the scoreboard
do you REALLY want additional pylons?
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
October 03 2011 02:57 GMT
#348
On October 03 2011 11:56 woob wrote:
revival is always ahead of idra i noticed, since he does the extractor trick, i might start using it myself


Is it that, or is it because he is microing drones to mine from closer patches?
UserErrOr413
Profile Joined May 2011
United States178 Posts
October 03 2011 02:58 GMT
#349
On October 03 2011 11:56 woob wrote:
revival is always ahead of idra i noticed, since he does the extractor trick, i might start using it myself

Really? I though i saw Idra at 12/18 and Revival at 11/10 each time. But then again maybe 2 supply were still in the larva, while revivals 1 drone is mining?
flowSthead
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1065 Posts
October 03 2011 02:58 GMT
#350
This is kind of unrelated, but can anyone explain to me why a player would go baneling in ZvZ? Every ZvZ I've seen, roaches do extremely well against banelings.
"You can be creative but I will crush it under the iron fist of my conservative play." - Liquid`Tyler █ MVP ■ MC ■ Boxer ■ Grubby █
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
October 03 2011 02:59 GMT
#351
They always synch up at 14 supply. You get a drone out a bit earlier with the 11/10 but you lose money on the cancelled extractor.

It's almost the same thing. Won't change the game at all.
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
October 03 2011 03:00 GMT
#352
On October 03 2011 11:58 flowSthead wrote:
This is kind of unrelated, but can anyone explain to me why a player would go baneling in ZvZ? Every ZvZ I've seen, roaches do extremely well against banelings.

mainly to do with how open the natural is and some speedling all-ins kill roaches.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13526 Posts
October 03 2011 03:00 GMT
#353
Isnt Idra 2-1 up?
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
templar rage
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2509 Posts
October 03 2011 03:00 GMT
#354
This may turn into Game 1 all over again.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
October 03 2011 03:00 GMT
#355
On October 03 2011 12:00 RowdierBob wrote:
Isnt Idra 2-1 up?


Yes.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
October 03 2011 03:01 GMT
#356
On October 03 2011 11:58 flowSthead wrote:
This is kind of unrelated, but can anyone explain to me why a player would go baneling in ZvZ? Every ZvZ I've seen, roaches do extremely well against banelings.

1) Banelings are quicker. If your opponent goes banelings and they hit before you get roaches, you have a hard time defending.

2) Banelings are cheaper. If you go roaches, you need to make some or you can't defend speedlings. But if you are using blings to defend against speedlings you're saving money.

I'm sure there are more reasons. Just off the top of my head those are two big ones.
BBMorti
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark242 Posts
October 03 2011 03:01 GMT
#357
On October 03 2011 11:58 flowSthead wrote:
This is kind of unrelated, but can anyone explain to me why a player would go baneling in ZvZ? Every ZvZ I've seen, roaches do extremely well against banelings.

I think it has something to do with revivals apparent love for 6-9 pool =P
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
October 03 2011 03:01 GMT
#358
Glad idra spotted the spire.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13526 Posts
October 03 2011 03:01 GMT
#359
On October 03 2011 12:00 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 12:00 RowdierBob wrote:
Isnt Idra 2-1 up?


Yes.


Thanks... Cast says it's 1-1?
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
October 03 2011 03:02 GMT
#360
Its interesting how well Idra performs against Korean play. Their play follows the sort of logic that was pounded into his head when he trained there.

He definitely shines the brightest against Koreans. At least against the ones who don't bunker rush. He doesn't do well against them...
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