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KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
October 02 2011 06:05 GMT
#1161
On October 02 2011 14:55 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 14:45 Canucklehead wrote:
Idra needs to watch DRG games. I've seen all of DRG's televised games and I've never seen him lose to a 2 rax bunker push or at least I can't remember a game he has. He may lose the hatch sometimes, but he'll never gg right there and he ends up winning the game.

One of the games I watched was IdrA vs Morrow, where morrow kills the hatchery but idra stays in the game and makes it a very close 30 minute game....

So I wasnt really expecting to win. I would guess what made IdrA stay vs morrow and not vs me is that 1) He got his spines into position so he could at least retake his nat....
2) He might not have made gas as early, because he knew it was a 2 rax faster than he did vs me.



Jinro if you don't mind my asking, why don't you think you can go toe to toe with idra in a macro game? Haven't you been practicing a lot lately? You have streamed so much (I also watched every second of it :D ) It looks like you are really getting back into shape
Idra is also maybe perhaps ( I don't know really) in a little "slump" maybe, at least he is not looking unbeatable right now.

In my little uninformed mind i actually considered you a slight favorite going into the match
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
October 02 2011 06:06 GMT
#1162
On October 02 2011 15:01 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 14:58 Foxwolf wrote:
Someone that doesn't feel 'comfortable' playing long games against good players like IdrA and instead need to trust some 'cheese' build + hardcore timing attacks will most likely not go really far in a big tournament.

That's only my opinion however.

Im not gonna feel bad about not wanting to play IdrA in a long game when he's like 10x better at long game than short game.

Why is that anyway? Because he cuts so many corners in the early game?
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
minimat
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia344 Posts
October 02 2011 06:06 GMT
#1163
On October 02 2011 14:56 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 14:53 minimat wrote:
Please carmac pleaseee stream Iaguz..

i somehow doubt they'll show him, as + Show Spoiler +
he lost to Way (2:0) and i don't think many people want to see him


I really don't think its fair that they don't show one of their players atleast once on the stream. A lot of SEA people will be quite mad if they don't show him.
Yamulo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2096 Posts
October 02 2011 06:06 GMT
#1164
On October 02 2011 14:58 Foxwolf wrote:
Someone that doesn't feel 'comfortable' playing long games against good players like IdrA and instead need to trust some 'cheese' build + hardcore timing attacks will most likely not go really far in a big tournament.

That's only my opinion however.

So you decided not to watch GSL seasons 1-3??
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Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 02 2011 06:07 GMT
#1165
On October 02 2011 15:06 Yamulo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 14:58 Foxwolf wrote:
Someone that doesn't feel 'comfortable' playing long games against good players like IdrA and instead need to trust some 'cheese' build + hardcore timing attacks will most likely not go really far in a big tournament.

That's only my opinion however.

So you decided not to watch GSL seasons 1-3??

And just about every TvP/TvZ in the last two seasons.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 06:09:26
October 02 2011 06:08 GMT
#1166
Way is playing hilariously bad.

But I'm not surprised, actually. I know a bit of CCM from its Dota days, and I think the "acquirement" of CCM by one Sicong Wang probably didn't do too well for its SC 2 department, considering the latter only really cares about Dota and probably just let the SC 2 branch of CCM rot...
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 02 2011 06:11 GMT
#1167
Strelok harassing Way's third with a thor. Standard.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Montana[TK]
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
1624 Posts
October 02 2011 06:12 GMT
#1168
we really didnt need to see that series TT
Plexa: "It's not [caster] bashing when its the truth."
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
October 02 2011 06:12 GMT
#1169
Wow. That confuses me.
illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
October 02 2011 06:12 GMT
#1170
ugly game lol
you live and you learn
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
October 02 2011 06:12 GMT
#1171
Gold. Solid gold.

lol Rotti, an "unorthodox" series heh
Foxwolf
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Brazil157 Posts
October 02 2011 06:12 GMT
#1172
On October 02 2011 15:01 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 14:58 Foxwolf wrote:
Someone that doesn't feel 'comfortable' playing long games against good players like IdrA and instead need to trust some 'cheese' build + hardcore timing attacks will most likely not go really far in a big tournament.

That's only my opinion however.

Im not gonna feel bad about not wanting to play IdrA in a long game when he's like 10x better at long game than short game.



Looking in your way I have to agree that in THIS situation its okish to do something like that I. I know you need to win at all cost.

I am just not sure about what this could result into. Let's say you win now and instead of trying to improving your macro to next tournament to beat Idra in a long game, you just try to improve that hardcore timing attack or that 3 bunker rush to work in an even better way.

He/other players will eventually be able to stop that and you will have nothing more to fall back to in your gameplay.

I am sorry if I sounded like a Idra fanboy but I really like both of you Jinro and I just wanted to see cool long epic games
DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
October 02 2011 06:12 GMT
#1173
strangest series ever oO

strelok on top of things the whole game i feel, and somehow strelok was down in supply the whole game... and still won cause way a clicked in with scvs once too much^^
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drew-chan
Profile Joined July 2009
Malaysia1517 Posts
October 02 2011 06:13 GMT
#1174
So far nothing special from china unfortunately...
...
Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
October 02 2011 06:13 GMT
#1175
On October 02 2011 15:04 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 15:02 Jumbled wrote:
On October 02 2011 14:56 HolydaKing wrote:
On October 02 2011 14:53 minimat wrote:
Please carmac pleaseee stream Iaguz..

i somehow doubt they'll show him, as + Show Spoiler +
he lost to Way (2:0) and i don't think many people want to see him

They really should be showing at least one game of every player, otherwise it's a terribly badly organised schedule.

uhh... i don't think so, i have hardly seen any tournament where every player of group stages was showed on the stream.

With a larger field, that would be the case, but when they have two matches at a time and pools of four, they can show everyone once with some extra coverage of the big matchups.
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
October 02 2011 06:14 GMT
#1176
On October 02 2011 15:06 Yamulo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 14:58 Foxwolf wrote:
Someone that doesn't feel 'comfortable' playing long games against good players like IdrA and instead need to trust some 'cheese' build + hardcore timing attacks will most likely not go really far in a big tournament.

That's only my opinion however.

So you decided not to watch GSL seasons 1-3??

lol. and u decided not to watch GSL since then?
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
Lunas
Profile Joined September 2011
253 Posts
October 02 2011 06:14 GMT
#1177
China abit behind the international scene atm but give them some time
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
October 02 2011 06:15 GMT
#1178
Can't believe Mr. Bitter even suggested China might be ahead of the Koreans. Maybe the pressure of playing in front of the home crowd against foreigners is working against them but right now they don't even look as strong as the EU players.
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
October 02 2011 06:15 GMT
#1179
On October 02 2011 15:12 DiaBoLuS wrote:
strangest series ever oO

strelok on top of things the whole game i feel, and somehow strelok was down in supply the whole game... and still won cause way a clicked in with scvs once too much^^

Did strelok screw up his scv production? Because way had so many more scvs than strelok despite losing so much + mining time. What was up with streloks macro?
DigitalisDestructi
Profile Joined November 2010
United States488 Posts
October 02 2011 06:15 GMT
#1180
On October 02 2011 15:12 Foxwolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 15:01 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On October 02 2011 14:58 Foxwolf wrote:
Someone that doesn't feel 'comfortable' playing long games against good players like IdrA and instead need to trust some 'cheese' build + hardcore timing attacks will most likely not go really far in a big tournament.

That's only my opinion however.

Im not gonna feel bad about not wanting to play IdrA in a long game when he's like 10x better at long game than short game.



Looking in your way I have to agree that in THIS situation its okish to do something like that I. I know you need to win at all cost.

I am just not sure about what this could result into. Let's say you win now and instead of trying to improving your macro to next tournament to beat Idra in a long game, you just try to improve that hardcore timing attack or that 3 bunker rush to work in an even better way.

He/other players will eventually be able to stop that and you will have nothing more to fall back to in your gameplay.

I am sorry if I sounded like a Idra fanboy but I really like both of you Jinro and I just wanted to see cool long epic games

Tournament is about winning, broski. Save the "improving your macro" for ladder and practice sessions.
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