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ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
October 02 2011 06:15 GMT
#1181
I haven't seen Jim play, but judging from the other Chinese players, there skill lvl in SC2 isn't that high.
Don't mind me
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 06:17:35
October 02 2011 06:15 GMT
#1182
On October 02 2011 15:12 Foxwolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 15:01 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On October 02 2011 14:58 Foxwolf wrote:
Someone that doesn't feel 'comfortable' playing long games against good players like IdrA and instead need to trust some 'cheese' build + hardcore timing attacks will most likely not go really far in a big tournament.

That's only my opinion however.

Im not gonna feel bad about not wanting to play IdrA in a long game when he's like 10x better at long game than short game.



Looking in your way I have to agree that in THIS situation its okish to do something like that I. I know you need to win at all cost.

I am just not sure about what this could result into. Let's say you win now and instead of trying to improving your macro to next tournament to beat Idra in a long game, you just try to improve that hardcore timing attack or that 3 bunker rush to work in an even better way.

He/other players will eventually be able to stop that and you will have nothing more to fall back to in your gameplay.

I am sorry if I sounded like a Idra fanboy but I really like both of you Jinro and I just wanted to see cool long epic games

Tournaments are not the time for practice...

On October 02 2011 15:15 ptbl wrote:
I haven't seen Jim play, but judging from the other Chinese players, there skill lvl in SC2 isn't that high.

Pretty sure Jim is winning our group.

Anyway, there's another big chinese tournament going on at the same time as this event I think, lots of players there (I would guess Super, Macsed, LoveCD, Loner etc are all there). Duno how to explain Xigua's poor results, I think hes good normally =/
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
October 02 2011 06:16 GMT
#1183
That series was just silly, I want those minutes of my life back!
Grats to strelock regardless.
♞Nerdrage is the cause of global warming♞
Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
October 02 2011 06:16 GMT
#1184
Dear IEM,please show atleast one game of Iaguz, he looks like gimli.
@NvPinder on twitter | Member of Gamecom Nv | http://www.clan-ta.com | http://www.youtube.com/user/ftrunkz | http://www.twitchtv.com/xghpinder
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 06:18:55
October 02 2011 06:17 GMT
#1185
On October 02 2011 15:14 Lunas wrote:
China abit behind the international scene atm but give them some time


"Give them some time" is a ridiculous way to assess the situation. Three months ago Chinese players like XiaoT were playing great games against top players, and you could see it from the way they played their games - not just who they won against.

Today they are playing like shit.

Chinese players appear to be getting worse and worse as time goes on. Their scene is in serious trouble if that's the case.

That said, XiGua, YHY, and Way aren't the players we saw from three months ago.

It could be that they're the "new blood" that is getting pounded - rightfully - in their first international ventures.

If that could lead to improvements later down the line, then it's good pounding.
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
October 02 2011 06:17 GMT
#1186
On October 02 2011 15:15 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Pretty sure Jim is winning our group.


How did he beat you? Macro games or cheese/all ins?
Go go Alliance.
GreenAndOrangeTurtle
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia193 Posts
October 02 2011 06:17 GMT
#1187
On October 02 2011 14:59 Carmac wrote:
The Liquipedia results say that JYP is playing PuMa in quarters. This is not correct.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_VI_-_Global_Challenge_Guangzhou

The bracket will be RANDOMLY generated based on the following rules, though:

1) Group first plays group second.
2) Players from the same group won't meet until the final.

This helps us avoid match fixing. Off the top of my head there are 9 different bracket options available with this rule set for playoffs.


Thanks for the correction
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
October 02 2011 06:17 GMT
#1188
Yeah, streloks scv-production was a bit inconsistent, but nice awareness and with another 2-0 in the third game things are looking good for tomorrow.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
October 02 2011 06:17 GMT
#1189
On October 02 2011 15:13 drew-chan wrote:
So far nothing special from china unfortunately...


Sad but true. Xigua was extremely disappointing.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Fighter
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1531 Posts
October 02 2011 06:17 GMT
#1190
On October 02 2011 15:13 Jumbled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 15:04 HolydaKing wrote:
On October 02 2011 15:02 Jumbled wrote:
On October 02 2011 14:56 HolydaKing wrote:
On October 02 2011 14:53 minimat wrote:
Please carmac pleaseee stream Iaguz..

i somehow doubt they'll show him, as + Show Spoiler +
he lost to Way (2:0) and i don't think many people want to see him

They really should be showing at least one game of every player, otherwise it's a terribly badly organised schedule.

uhh... i don't think so, i have hardly seen any tournament where every player of group stages was showed on the stream.

With a larger field, that would be the case, but when they have two matches at a time and pools of four, they can show everyone once with some extra coverage of the big matchups.


Eh, I feel like the guy traveled all the way to China.. it's kind of a big deal. At least show ONE of his series..
For Aiur???
Lunas
Profile Joined September 2011
253 Posts
October 02 2011 06:18 GMT
#1191
On October 02 2011 15:15 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 15:12 Foxwolf wrote:
On October 02 2011 15:01 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On October 02 2011 14:58 Foxwolf wrote:
Someone that doesn't feel 'comfortable' playing long games against good players like IdrA and instead need to trust some 'cheese' build + hardcore timing attacks will most likely not go really far in a big tournament.

That's only my opinion however.

Im not gonna feel bad about not wanting to play IdrA in a long game when he's like 10x better at long game than short game.



Looking in your way I have to agree that in THIS situation its okish to do something like that I. I know you need to win at all cost.

I am just not sure about what this could result into. Let's say you win now and instead of trying to improving your macro to next tournament to beat Idra in a long game, you just try to improve that hardcore timing attack or that 3 bunker rush to work in an even better way.

He/other players will eventually be able to stop that and you will have nothing more to fall back to in your gameplay.

I am sorry if I sounded like a Idra fanboy but I really like both of you Jinro and I just wanted to see cool long epic games

Tournaments are not the time for practice...

Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 15:15 ptbl wrote:
I haven't seen Jim play, but judging from the other Chinese players, there skill lvl in SC2 isn't that high.

Pretty sure Jim is winning our group.

Anyway, there's another big chinese tournament going on at the same time as this event I think, lots of players there (I would guess Super, Macsed, LoveCD, Loner etc are all there). Duno how to explain Xigua's poor results, I think hes good normally =/


Jim lost 2-0 to Elfi
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 06:19:28
October 02 2011 06:18 GMT
#1192
On October 02 2011 15:15 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 15:12 Foxwolf wrote:
On October 02 2011 15:01 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
On October 02 2011 14:58 Foxwolf wrote:
Someone that doesn't feel 'comfortable' playing long games against good players like IdrA and instead need to trust some 'cheese' build + hardcore timing attacks will most likely not go really far in a big tournament.

That's only my opinion however.

Im not gonna feel bad about not wanting to play IdrA in a long game when he's like 10x better at long game than short game.



Looking in your way I have to agree that in THIS situation its okish to do something like that I. I know you need to win at all cost.

I am just not sure about what this could result into. Let's say you win now and instead of trying to improving your macro to next tournament to beat Idra in a long game, you just try to improve that hardcore timing attack or that 3 bunker rush to work in an even better way.

He/other players will eventually be able to stop that and you will have nothing more to fall back to in your gameplay.

I am sorry if I sounded like a Idra fanboy but I really like both of you Jinro and I just wanted to see cool long epic games

Tournaments are not the time for practice...

Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 15:15 ptbl wrote:
I haven't seen Jim play, but judging from the other Chinese players, there skill lvl in SC2 isn't that high.

Pretty sure Jim is winning our group.


I thought he lost 0-2 vs Elfi? Even in the event he 2-0's Idra and you 2-0 Elfi that would still give Elfi the H2H advantage with both @ 4-2 map score and yourself @ 4-3?

Hoping you beat Elfi whatever happens though, fighting!~
StyLeD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2965 Posts
October 02 2011 06:18 GMT
#1193
On October 02 2011 15:17 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 15:14 Lunas wrote:
China abit behind the international scene atm but give them some time


"Give them some time" is a ridiculous way to assess the situation. Three months ago Chinese players like XiaoT were playing great games against top players, and you could see it from the way they played their games - not just who they won against.

Today they are playing like shit.

Chinese players are getting worse and worse as time goes on. Their scene is in serious trouble.


Because you would know.
"Even gophers love Starcraft" - Tasteless. || Davichi | IU <3
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
October 02 2011 06:19 GMT
#1194
On October 02 2011 15:15 Liquid`Jinro wrote:

Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 15:15 ptbl wrote:
I haven't seen Jim play, but judging from the other Chinese players, there skill lvl in SC2 isn't that high.

Pretty sure Jim is winning our group.

Anyway, there's another big chinese tournament going on at the same time as this event I think, lots of players there (I would guess Super, Macsed, LoveCD, Loner etc are all there). Duno how to explain Xigua's poor results, I think hes good normally =/


Apparently Jim lost to Elfi.

Says nothing though, it's PvP
Fighter
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1531 Posts
October 02 2011 06:19 GMT
#1195
On October 02 2011 15:17 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 15:13 drew-chan wrote:
So far nothing special from china unfortunately...


Sad but true. Xigua was extremely disappointing.


Well we still need to see Jim play! I mean, he 2-0'd Jinro, he can't be that bad lol

I will feel a bit bad if no one from China advances. Ya never like to see the home country get stomped.
For Aiur???
SKtheAnathema
Profile Joined September 2010
United States885 Posts
October 02 2011 06:20 GMT
#1196
good job jinro
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
October 02 2011 06:20 GMT
#1197
The chinese players did get their sc2 on April, months behind everyone else
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
October 02 2011 06:21 GMT
#1198
On October 02 2011 15:17 dooraven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 15:15 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Pretty sure Jim is winning our group.


How did he beat you? Macro games or cheese/all ins?

100% cheese-less, as usual. LoveCD and Jim are amazing PvTers. LoveTT too.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 06:23:38
October 02 2011 06:21 GMT
#1199
On October 02 2011 15:20 iky43210 wrote:
The chinese players did get their sc2 on April, months behind everyone else


But this is not the first we saw of Chinese players.

A few months ago they were doing great. Now it seems like they can't even micro their banshees, even though Chinese players are usually known for their amazing micro.
Lambertus
Profile Joined February 2010
South Africa975 Posts
October 02 2011 06:23 GMT
#1200
gogo Jinro! You are the man! And you are right! Tournaments are no time to practice! Kill them all :D
The only known Reverend on TL playing SC2 and BW (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409226)
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