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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
October 02 2011 06:31 GMT
#1221
On October 02 2011 15:28 red4ce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 15:17 Azarkon wrote:
On October 02 2011 15:14 Lunas wrote:
China abit behind the international scene atm but give them some time


"Give them some time" is a ridiculous way to assess the situation. Three months ago Chinese players like XiaoT were playing great games against top players, and you could see it from the way they played their games - not just who they won against.

Today they are playing like shit.

Chinese players appear to be getting worse and worse as time goes on. Their scene is in serious trouble if that's the case.

That said, XiGua, YHY, and Way aren't the players we saw from three months ago.

It could be that they're the "new blood" that is getting pounded - rightfully - in their first international ventures.

If that could lead to improvements later down the line, then it's good pounding.


I don't think you can make judgements about the Chinese scene from just this tournament. Don't forget that YHY and Way are only here because several players who qualified above them had to pull out. XiaoT definitely disappointed but he was in a group with 2 Koreans and a top 3 non Korean zerg.


You mean XiGua. XiaoT isn't in this tournament and AFAIK he retired.

And YHY probably played better than XiGua in his games.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 02 2011 06:32 GMT
#1222
On October 02 2011 15:31 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 15:28 red4ce wrote:
On October 02 2011 15:17 Azarkon wrote:
On October 02 2011 15:14 Lunas wrote:
China abit behind the international scene atm but give them some time


"Give them some time" is a ridiculous way to assess the situation. Three months ago Chinese players like XiaoT were playing great games against top players, and you could see it from the way they played their games - not just who they won against.

Today they are playing like shit.

Chinese players appear to be getting worse and worse as time goes on. Their scene is in serious trouble if that's the case.

That said, XiGua, YHY, and Way aren't the players we saw from three months ago.

It could be that they're the "new blood" that is getting pounded - rightfully - in their first international ventures.

If that could lead to improvements later down the line, then it's good pounding.


I don't think you can make judgements about the Chinese scene from just this tournament. Don't forget that YHY and Way are only here because several players who qualified above them had to pull out. XiaoT definitely disappointed but he was in a group with 2 Koreans and a top 3 non Korean zerg.


You mean XiGua. XiaoT isn't in this tournament and AFAIK he retired.

And YHY probably played better than XiGua in his games.

Aw... I liked XiaoT.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
October 02 2011 06:32 GMT
#1223
Idra's gonna see the shrine
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
October 02 2011 06:33 GMT
#1224
This is basically the Hero vs Idra early game from Dreamhack
Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
October 02 2011 06:33 GMT
#1225
On October 02 2011 15:32 mordk wrote:
Idra's gonna see the shrine

As always. When he overlord scouts he like never miss it lol.
( ̄。 ̄)~zzz ◕ ◡ ◕
HeliBadger
Profile Joined September 2011
538 Posts
October 02 2011 06:34 GMT
#1226
2.75 speed overseers FUCK YEAH
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
October 02 2011 06:35 GMT
#1227
On October 02 2011 15:31 Foxwolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 15:28 dAPhREAk wrote:
is there a place to see the results since the op isnt being updated?



http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_VI_-_Global_Challenge_Guangzhou

thanks. =D
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 02 2011 06:35 GMT
#1228
Why you kill Mengsk!?
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
October 02 2011 06:35 GMT
#1229
Does idra really still play roach hydra???? the hell...there is like 15 different zerg styles better in this match up...
Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2373 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 06:35:55
October 02 2011 06:35 GMT
#1230
2 basing Protoss never kill the scouting ling/ov at the 3rd.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 02 2011 06:36 GMT
#1231
On October 02 2011 15:35 Maghetti wrote:
Does idra really still play roach hydra???? the hell...there is like 15 different zerg styles better in this match up...

He thinks that a minor damage nerf to fungal and a range nerf to NP killed the infestor, and he thinks broods and ultras are underpowered, so he decided to use a strategy that hasn't worked in almost a year.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
netsky4
Profile Joined June 2011
Austria511 Posts
October 02 2011 06:37 GMT
#1232
I think Idra came out ahead
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 06:37:31
October 02 2011 06:37 GMT
#1233
On October 02 2011 15:35 Maghetti wrote:
Does idra really still play roach hydra???? the hell...there is like 15 different zerg styles better in this match up...


almost everyone plays roach/hydra again :/
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 02 2011 06:37 GMT
#1234
not the best blink micro...
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
October 02 2011 06:37 GMT
#1235
not impressed with Jim's PvZ
Don't mind me
Klipsys
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1533 Posts
October 02 2011 06:37 GMT
#1236
I just keep hearing Dwight scream "DAMMIT JIM"
Hudson Valley Progamer
Omar91
Profile Joined April 2010
Angola620 Posts
October 02 2011 06:37 GMT
#1237
Good job IdrA
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
October 02 2011 06:37 GMT
#1238
Come on, Jim. This isn't Brood War. You NEED Tier 3 as Protoss.
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 06:37:54
October 02 2011 06:37 GMT
#1239
On October 02 2011 15:36 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 15:35 Maghetti wrote:
Does idra really still play roach hydra???? the hell...there is like 15 different zerg styles better in this match up...

He thinks that a minor damage nerf to fungal and a range nerf to NP killed the infestor, and he thinks broods and ultras are underpowered, so he decided to use a strategy that hasn't worked in almost a year.

works vs tosses who pushes like jim does :/ God that was terrible decition making
Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
October 02 2011 06:38 GMT
#1240
On October 02 2011 15:28 JesusOurSaviour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 15:24 Miefer wrote:
chinese players can have bad days too. its not like Idra is playing any better...
Ya this from what Miefer said + the fact that China is immensely behind in their structure + history of SCII. A lot of them are laddering on the KR ladder, but they still don't have the teamhouses which Koreans have.

I'm sure you guys have seen the white-board which was in the TSL house (courtesy to Artosis). That whiteboard had a "timeline" on it, which I am sure was describing the timings of certain builds

When you get that kind of training going with that much thinking put into a game, then you'll be better for sure. The Chinese players need the Korean practice house environment before they'll ever get better than NA/European players


All of the Chinese *teams* have coaches, managers, team houses (clubs), and even salaries (probably pretty meagre). What they don't have is exposure to international competitions.
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