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On October 02 2011 15:28 red4ce wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 15:17 Azarkon wrote:On October 02 2011 15:14 Lunas wrote:
China abit behind the international scene atm but give them some time "Give them some time" is a ridiculous way to assess the situation. Three months ago Chinese players like XiaoT were playing great games against top players, and you could see it from the way they played their games - not just who they won against. Today they are playing like shit. Chinese players appear to be getting worse and worse as time goes on. Their scene is in serious trouble if that's the case. That said, XiGua, YHY, and Way aren't the players we saw from three months ago. It could be that they're the "new blood" that is getting pounded - rightfully - in their first international ventures. If that could lead to improvements later down the line, then it's good pounding. I don't think you can make judgements about the Chinese scene from just this tournament. Don't forget that YHY and Way are only here because several players who qualified above them had to pull out. XiaoT definitely disappointed but he was in a group with 2 Koreans and a top 3 non Korean zerg.
You mean XiGua. XiaoT isn't in this tournament and AFAIK he retired.
And YHY probably played better than XiGua in his games.
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On October 02 2011 15:31 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 15:28 red4ce wrote:On October 02 2011 15:17 Azarkon wrote:On October 02 2011 15:14 Lunas wrote:
China abit behind the international scene atm but give them some time "Give them some time" is a ridiculous way to assess the situation. Three months ago Chinese players like XiaoT were playing great games against top players, and you could see it from the way they played their games - not just who they won against. Today they are playing like shit. Chinese players appear to be getting worse and worse as time goes on. Their scene is in serious trouble if that's the case. That said, XiGua, YHY, and Way aren't the players we saw from three months ago. It could be that they're the "new blood" that is getting pounded - rightfully - in their first international ventures. If that could lead to improvements later down the line, then it's good pounding. I don't think you can make judgements about the Chinese scene from just this tournament. Don't forget that YHY and Way are only here because several players who qualified above them had to pull out. XiaoT definitely disappointed but he was in a group with 2 Koreans and a top 3 non Korean zerg. You mean XiGua. XiaoT isn't in this tournament and AFAIK he retired. And YHY probably played better than XiGua in his games.
Aw... I liked XiaoT. 
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Idra's gonna see the shrine
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This is basically the Hero vs Idra early game from Dreamhack
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On October 02 2011 15:32 mordk wrote:
Idra's gonna see the shrine
As always. When he overlord scouts he like never miss it lol. 
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2.75 speed overseers FUCK YEAH
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Does idra really still play roach hydra???? the hell...there is like 15 different zerg styles better in this match up...
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2 basing Protoss never kill the scouting ling/ov at the 3rd.
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On October 02 2011 15:35 Maghetti wrote:
Does idra really still play roach hydra???? the hell...there is like 15 different zerg styles better in this match up...
He thinks that a minor damage nerf to fungal and a range nerf to NP killed the infestor, and he thinks broods and ultras are underpowered, so he decided to use a strategy that hasn't worked in almost a year.
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I think Idra came out ahead
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On October 02 2011 15:35 Maghetti wrote:
Does idra really still play roach hydra???? the hell...there is like 15 different zerg styles better in this match up...
almost everyone plays roach/hydra again :/
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not the best blink micro...
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not impressed with Jim's PvZ
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I just keep hearing Dwight scream "DAMMIT JIM"
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Come on, Jim. This isn't Brood War. You NEED Tier 3 as Protoss.
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On October 02 2011 15:36 Daralii wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 15:35 Maghetti wrote:
Does idra really still play roach hydra???? the hell...there is like 15 different zerg styles better in this match up... He thinks that a minor damage nerf to fungal and a range nerf to NP killed the infestor, and he thinks broods and ultras are underpowered, so he decided to use a strategy that hasn't worked in almost a year.
works vs tosses who pushes like jim does :/ God that was terrible decition making
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On October 02 2011 15:28 JesusOurSaviour wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 15:24 Miefer wrote:
chinese players can have bad days too. its not like Idra is playing any better... Ya this from what Miefer said + the fact that China is immensely behind in their structure + history of SCII. A lot of them are laddering on the KR ladder, but they still don't have the teamhouses which Koreans have. I'm sure you guys have seen the white-board which was in the TSL house (courtesy to Artosis). That whiteboard had a "timeline" on it, which I am sure was describing the timings of certain builds  When you get that kind of training going with that much thinking put into a game, then you'll be better for sure. The Chinese players need the Korean practice house environment before they'll ever get better than NA/European players
All of the Chinese *teams* have coaches, managers, team houses (clubs), and even salaries (probably pretty meagre). What they don't have is exposure to international competitions.
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EPT
