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On October 02 2011 15:19 Fighter wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 15:17 Grettin wrote:On October 02 2011 15:13 drew-chan wrote:
So far nothing special from china unfortunately... Sad but true. Xigua was extremely disappointing.  Well we still need to see Jim play! I mean, he 2-0'd Jinro, he can't be that bad lol I will feel a bit bad if no one from China advances. Ya never like to see the home country get stomped.
They'll probably continue to get stomped for the first 2 years on their home ground, after which they'll just tear everything apart all of a sudden. That's how it worked for their WC3 scene too. It's nothing surprising, really.
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It's 11:30PM here. Anyone know when they are going to show Jinro's next game?
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chinese players can have bad days too. its not like Idra is playing any better...
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United Kingdom38255 Posts
On October 02 2011 15:23 ptbl wrote:
It's 11:30PM here. Anyone know when they are going to show Jinro's next game?
They probably won't by the sounds of it. Bitter was saying they'd cast Idra vs Jim and since group matches happen at the same time I guess we won't be seeing Jinro vs Elfi T_T
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On October 02 2011 15:15 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 15:12 Foxwolf wrote:On October 02 2011 15:01 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On October 02 2011 14:58 Foxwolf wrote:
Someone that doesn't feel 'comfortable' playing long games against good players like IdrA and instead need to trust some 'cheese' build + hardcore timing attacks will most likely not go really far in a big tournament.
That's only my opinion however. Im not gonna feel bad about not wanting to play IdrA in a long game when he's like 10x better at long game than short game. Looking in your way I have to agree that in THIS situation its okish to do something like that I. I know you need to win at all cost. I am just not sure about what this could result into. Let's say you win now and instead of trying to improving your macro to next tournament to beat Idra in a long game, you just try to improve that hardcore timing attack or that 3 bunker rush to work in an even better way. He/other players will eventually be able to stop that and you will have nothing more to fall back to in your gameplay. I am sorry if I sounded like a Idra fanboy but I really like both of you Jinro and I just wanted to see cool long epic games  Tournaments are not the time for practice... Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 15:15 ptbl wrote:
I haven't seen Jim play, but judging from the other Chinese players, there skill lvl in SC2 isn't that high. Pretty sure Jim is winning our group.
As I said I understand your situation at THIS tournament. I am just a little afraid about what it could result. It could end up for you practicing more that sort of play than trying to improve your macro. It would be bad if you had to rely your gameplay next tournament and so on in something like that instead of going for the big picture. When as I said you will eventually find players that will stop it and you will not have anything else to fall back on.
But what do I know you are the pro gamer here that is just my opinion. Anyway, I also said that I got a little nerd rage after such a short game but I will cheer for you in the tournament Jinro.
gl
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On October 02 2011 15:23 ptbl wrote:
It's 11:30PM here. Anyone know when they are going to show Jinro's next game?
I think they are showing jim vs idra... but i'd much rather watch Jinro vs Elfi. Both matches decide the outcome I believe.
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please get the volume on a normal level...
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On October 02 2011 15:24 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 15:23 ptbl wrote:
It's 11:30PM here. Anyone know when they are going to show Jinro's next game? They probably won't by the sounds of it. Bitter was saying they'd cast Idra vs Jim and since group matches happen at the same time I guess we won't be seeing Jinro vs Elfi T_T
This is true. The casting schedule and results are on this page:
http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season6/guangzhou/sc2_groupstage/
Says that they will be casting idra v jim and then revival v way
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Hope we get to see Iaguz vs Strelok! gogo Gimli!
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Lets go Jim! Send idra home 0-3
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I dont understand how Idra plays ZvP. It seems every other zerg just gets 3 fast base and holds the 2 base attack the protoss does while making sure he doesnt take a 3rd. Idra just kinda lets him take that third and works around it.
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On October 02 2011 15:17 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 15:14 Lunas wrote:
China abit behind the international scene atm but give them some time "Give them some time" is a ridiculous way to assess the situation. Three months ago Chinese players like XiaoT were playing great games against top players, and you could see it from the way they played their games - not just who they won against. Today they are playing like shit. Chinese players appear to be getting worse and worse as time goes on. Their scene is in serious trouble if that's the case. That said, XiGua, YHY, and Way aren't the players we saw from three months ago. It could be that they're the "new blood" that is getting pounded - rightfully - in their first international ventures. If that could lead to improvements later down the line, then it's good pounding.
I don't think you can make judgements about the Chinese scene from just this tournament. Don't forget that YHY and Way are only here because several players who qualified above them had to pull out. Xigua definitely disappointed but he was in a group with 2 Koreans and a top 3 non Korean zerg.
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United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
On October 02 2011 15:24 Miefer wrote:
chinese players can have bad days too. its not like Idra is playing any better... Ya this from what Miefer said + the fact that China is immensely behind in their structure + history of SCII. A lot of them are laddering on the KR ladder, but they still don't have the teamhouses which Koreans have.
I'm sure you guys have seen the white-board which was in the TSL house (courtesy to Artosis). That whiteboard had a "timeline" on it, which I am sure was describing the timings of certain builds
When you get that kind of training going with that much thinking put into a game, then you'll be better for sure. The Chinese players need the Korean practice house environment before they'll ever get better than NA/European players
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is there a place to see the results since the op isnt being updated?
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On October 02 2011 15:28 Ruyguy wrote:
What's with the font?
The Chinese client has a different font for a reason I don't know.
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On October 02 2011 15:21 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 15:20 iky43210 wrote:
The chinese players did get their sc2 on April, months behind everyone else But this is not the first we saw of Chinese players. A few months ago they were doing great. Now it seems like they can't even micro their banshees, even though Chinese players are usually known for their amazing micro.
What major tournament have we seen Chinese vs non-Chinese besides the StarsWar tournament? Yeah China kicked ass there but it was an online tournament. Those results were just as deceptive as when foreigners whooped ass on the Koreans in TSL3
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edit: Person above me is awesome
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will there be a rebroadcast of today's games? I know there wasn't tomorrow because of tech issues but has that been fixed or is it just a setback to this specific tourny in china and not being able to rebroadcast at all?
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