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SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
October 02 2011 05:52 GMT
#1121
On October 02 2011 14:48 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
I checked some reps of IdrA on Shakuras to see if he scouted that spot with overlord, or if he early drone scouted... Both which he didnt, so I decided to do that build. Its 12/14 so its not at all allin anyway.

I dont feel comfortable playing IdrA in a long game yet...

Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 14:48 Yamulo wrote:
On October 02 2011 14:43 s4life wrote:
Isn't it time we stop talking about Idra like if he was a top player? he's obviously just another zerg player right now.. stephano, nerchio and sheth have surpassed him already

I know.. People just follow his name, and even though his results have been about even with jinros in tournament play his name sticks more. I really don't know why. I mean you could even argue (and by argue I mean state...) that 2 ro4 gsls + an mlg is better than mlg and ipl 1.

In terms of outright wins maybe, but you have to keep in mind how much more relevant IdrA has been in the last..... I dont know, 6 months maybe? Basically I went through a really long period where I've just lost early almost every tournament, and not even felt confident enough to want to play in teamleagues.

IdrA on the other hand has consistently made it far in MLGs, and is the perennial EG ace in teamleagues... I think its mostly a deserved difference in attention.


IdrA knows his results are crapping out and will join you in Kr soon hopefully. Hope you both can get back in Code S =>

KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
October 02 2011 05:53 GMT
#1122
Gratz jinro.
Probably a smart move to not engage in a macro war against idra, hes kinda good at that shit :D
Hopefully you manage to get out of the group
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
minimat
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia344 Posts
October 02 2011 05:53 GMT
#1123
Please carmac pleaseee stream Iaguz..
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 05:55:20
October 02 2011 05:54 GMT
#1124
nvm
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
October 02 2011 05:54 GMT
#1125
Wow I really like Streloks build.... reactor helion, switch to barracks, drop ship, CC, viking, then raven. Safe against almost all openings.

Copying this for sure.
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Zizba
Profile Joined June 2011
France7 Posts
October 02 2011 05:54 GMT
#1126
Good job Jinro. Study your opponents and abuse all weakness is a full part of a Pro !

sorry for bad english :x
- Gump! What's your sole purpose in this army? - To do whatever you tell me, drill sergeant! - God damn it, Gump! You're a god damn genius! This is the most outstanding answer I have ever heard. You must have a goddamn I.Q. of 160 ..."
ForeverSleep
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada920 Posts
October 02 2011 05:55 GMT
#1127
mmm...i feel like strelok is about to roll that guy...
"Life is what happens to you while you’re busy making other plans" - John Lennon
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
October 02 2011 05:55 GMT
#1128
On October 02 2011 14:52 ForeverSleep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 14:50 figq wrote:
On October 02 2011 14:43 sirreginold wrote:
Wow. went to the restroom and g3 is over already.
Same here o_o what the hell happened in that game...?


2 rax from jinro and idra fails to defend, as usual in fact
Thanks, it seems the key point was bunker placement - where did he place them?
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
October 02 2011 05:55 GMT
#1129
On October 02 2011 14:41 Mohdoo wrote:
I really wish idra didn't have such bad luck against 2 rax. It doesn't work so well against other Zergs, just seems to be idra's weakness >_<


the issue isn't luck
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
October 02 2011 05:55 GMT
#1130
CCMway is playing amazingly bad...
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
October 02 2011 05:55 GMT
#1131
On October 02 2011 14:45 Canucklehead wrote:
Idra needs to watch DRG games. I've seen all of DRG's televised games and I've never seen him lose to a 2 rax bunker push or at least I can't remember a game he has. He may lose the hatch sometimes, but he'll never gg right there and he ends up winning the game.

One of the games I watched was IdrA vs Morrow, where morrow kills the hatchery but idra stays in the game and makes it a very close 30 minute game....

So I wasnt really expecting to win. I would guess what made IdrA stay vs morrow and not vs me is that 1) He got his spines into position so he could at least retake his nat....
2) He might not have made gas as early, because he knew it was a 2 rax faster than he did vs me.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Mycl
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1370 Posts
October 02 2011 05:56 GMT
#1132
On October 02 2011 14:55 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 14:52 ForeverSleep wrote:
On October 02 2011 14:50 figq wrote:
On October 02 2011 14:43 sirreginold wrote:
Wow. went to the restroom and g3 is over already.
Same here o_o what the hell happened in that game...?


2 rax from jinro and idra fails to defend, as usual in fact
Thanks, it seems the key point was bunker placement - where did he place them?


At the ramp down from the nat. 3 bunkers create a full wall off
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 05:56:50
October 02 2011 05:56 GMT
#1133
On October 02 2011 14:53 minimat wrote:
Please carmac pleaseee stream Iaguz..

i somehow doubt they'll show him, as + Show Spoiler +
he lost to Way (2:0) and i don't think many people want to see him
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
October 02 2011 05:56 GMT
#1134
On October 02 2011 14:55 udgnim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 14:41 Mohdoo wrote:
I really wish idra didn't have such bad luck against 2 rax. It doesn't work so well against other Zergs, just seems to be idra's weakness >_<


the issue isn't luck


Yeah, 2rax wins a ton of GSL TvZ as well

Or at least kills players naturals (like leenock 100% of the time) and they lose from a 2base follow up xD
Teim
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia373 Posts
October 02 2011 05:56 GMT
#1135
Yeesh. Hope that guy was just extremely nervous. Haven't seen play that poor in months.
A duck is a duck!
Lunas
Profile Joined September 2011
253 Posts
October 02 2011 05:57 GMT
#1136
Strangest TvT I ever seen
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 02 2011 05:57 GMT
#1137
On October 02 2011 14:57 Lunas wrote:
Strangest TvT I ever seen

Stranger than raven wars?
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
October 02 2011 05:58 GMT
#1138
On October 02 2011 14:48 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
I checked some reps of IdrA on Shakuras to see if he scouted that spot with overlord, or if he early drone scouted... Both which he didnt, so I decided to do that build. Its 12/14 so its not at all allin anyway.

I dont feel comfortable playing IdrA in a long game yet...

Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 14:48 Yamulo wrote:
On October 02 2011 14:43 s4life wrote:
Isn't it time we stop talking about Idra like if he was a top player? he's obviously just another zerg player right now.. stephano, nerchio and sheth have surpassed him already

I know.. People just follow his name, and even though his results have been about even with jinros in tournament play his name sticks more. I really don't know why. I mean you could even argue (and by argue I mean state...) that 2 ro4 gsls + an mlg is better than mlg and ipl 1.

In terms of outright wins maybe, but you have to keep in mind how much more relevant IdrA has been in the last..... I dont know, 6 months maybe? Basically I went through a really long period where I've just lost early almost every tournament, and not even felt confident enough to want to play in teamleagues.

IdrA on the other hand has consistently made it far in MLGs, and is the perennial EG ace in teamleagues... I think its mostly a deserved difference in attention.


Ah didnt know it wasnt even an all in, well nicely won and Im pulling for you to win the whole thing.

Gorilla Terran Fighting!!
♞Nerdrage is the cause of global warming♞
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
October 02 2011 05:58 GMT
#1139
After seeing that game all I can say is...

no way, just no.
Foxwolf
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Brazil157 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 05:58:33
October 02 2011 05:58 GMT
#1140
Someone that doesn't feel 'comfortable' playing long games against good players like IdrA and instead need to trust some 'cheese' build + hardcore timing attacks will most likely not go really far in a big tournament.

That's only my opinion however.
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