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Yamulo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2096 Posts
October 02 2011 05:48 GMT
#1101
On October 02 2011 14:43 s4life wrote:
Isn't it time we stop talking about Idra like if he was a top player? he's obviously just another zerg player right now.. stephano, nerchio and sheth have surpassed him already

I know.. People just follow his name, and even though his results have been about even with jinros in tournament play his name sticks more. I really don't know why. I mean you could even argue (and by argue I mean state...) that 2 ro4 gsls + an mlg is better than mlg and ipl 1.
~~~Liquid Fighting (SC2)~~~
Montana[TK]
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
1624 Posts
October 02 2011 05:48 GMT
#1102
mmmmmmmm why a TvT
Plexa: "It's not [caster] bashing when its the truth."
ForeverSleep
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada920 Posts
October 02 2011 05:48 GMT
#1103
On October 02 2011 14:47 razy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 14:44 Synwave wrote:
Stream went from being really quiet to completely muted for me FML
*keeps hitting refresh*


same here :O


refreshing twice and playing with quality solved it for me
"Life is what happens to you while you’re busy making other plans" - John Lennon
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 05:50:57
October 02 2011 05:48 GMT
#1104
I checked some reps of IdrA on Shakuras to see if he scouted that spot with overlord, or if he early drone scouted... Both which he didnt, so I decided to do that build. Its 12/14 so its not at all allin anyway.

I dont feel comfortable playing IdrA in a long game yet...

On October 02 2011 14:48 Yamulo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 14:43 s4life wrote:
Isn't it time we stop talking about Idra like if he was a top player? he's obviously just another zerg player right now.. stephano, nerchio and sheth have surpassed him already

I know.. People just follow his name, and even though his results have been about even with jinros in tournament play his name sticks more. I really don't know why. I mean you could even argue (and by argue I mean state...) that 2 ro4 gsls + an mlg is better than mlg and ipl 1.

In terms of outright wins maybe, but you have to keep in mind how much more relevant IdrA has been in the last..... I dont know, 6 months maybe? Basically I went through a really long period where I've just lost early almost every tournament, and not even felt confident enough to want to play in teamleagues.

IdrA on the other hand has consistently made it far in MLGs, and is the perennial EG ace in teamleagues... I think its mostly a deserved difference in attention.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 02 2011 05:49 GMT
#1105
On October 02 2011 14:48 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
I checked some reps of IdrA on Shakuras to see if he scouted that spot with overlord, or if he early drone scouted... Both which he didnt, so I decided to do that build. Its 12/14 so its not at all allin anyway.

Clever. Grats on your win, sir.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
October 02 2011 05:49 GMT
#1106
On October 02 2011 14:48 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
I checked some reps of IdrA on Shakuras to see if he scouted that spot with overlord, or if he early drone scouted... Both which he didnt, so I decided to do that build. Its 12/14 so its not at all allin anyway.


Good job man, good job! keep it up and good luck!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Lobotomist
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1541 Posts
October 02 2011 05:49 GMT
#1107
I have a couple theories about idra. I think he's got one, maybe two games per series in him, during which he can play completely flawlessly and look absolutely invincible (see Idra vs Jinro game 1). Second, I think that there are two people that play Starcraft 2 in the guise of Greg "Idra" Fields. There's Idra, who has posted top GSL finishes, a host of tournament wins and stomps noobs left and right, and there's Greg, who loses to dumb cheese in the first 5 minutes, never ggs, claims imbalance, and generally is a big ragey ball of hate. Idra can only play a couple games, but Greg...Greg can play a lot of games.
Teching to hive too quickly isn't just a risk: it's an ultrarisk
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 02 2011 05:49 GMT
#1108
On October 02 2011 14:48 Montana[TK] wrote:
mmmmmmmm why a TvT

comeon -.-

they want to show a chinese player for once... it's in china after all.
tholyc
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany116 Posts
October 02 2011 05:49 GMT
#1109
On October 02 2011 14:48 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
I checked some reps of IdrA on Shakuras to see if he scouted that spot with overlord, or if he early drone scouted... Both which he didnt, so I decided to do that build. Its 12/14 so its not at all allin anyway.

I dont feel comfortable playing IdrA in a long game yet...


How dare you!?!?!??!
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
October 02 2011 05:50 GMT
#1110
On October 02 2011 14:41 tangwhat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 14:39 Eatme wrote:
Never seen such bunker play before. Honestly brilliant.


The triple bunker abuse on Shakuras hasw been around for months and it's still dumb and gay.

Ya its so dumb and gay look how bad it was
Most Skilled Current esport Games Scbw>Sc2>Cs1.6>Dota2>Hon>Loopin Louie The Drinking Game>LoL
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
October 02 2011 05:50 GMT
#1111
On October 02 2011 14:43 sirreginold wrote:
Wow. went to the restroom and g3 is over already.
Same here o_o what the hell happened in that game...?
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Mycl
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1370 Posts
October 02 2011 05:50 GMT
#1112
On October 02 2011 14:48 Yamulo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 14:43 s4life wrote:
Isn't it time we stop talking about Idra like if he was a top player? he's obviously just another zerg player right now.. stephano, nerchio and sheth have surpassed him already

I know.. People just follow his name, and even though his results have been about even with jinros in tournament play his name sticks more. I really don't know why. I mean you could even argue (and by argue I mean state...) that 2 ro4 gsls + an mlg is better than mlg and ipl 1.


People keep talking about Idra because he keeps on qualifying for tournaments or receiving invites. He is one of the most active foreigners in the tournament scene so people have a lot more opportunities to call him bad when he wins and call him terrible when he loses.
ForeverSleep
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada920 Posts
October 02 2011 05:51 GMT
#1113
On October 02 2011 14:48 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
I checked some reps of IdrA on Shakuras to see if he scouted that spot with overlord, or if he early drone scouted... Both which he didnt, so I decided to do that build. Its 12/14 so its not at all allin anyway.

I dont feel comfortable playing IdrA in a long game yet...


that's the way!!!! nice micro btw!!!
"Life is what happens to you while you’re busy making other plans" - John Lennon
Lunas
Profile Joined September 2011
253 Posts
October 02 2011 05:51 GMT
#1114
On October 02 2011 14:48 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
I checked some reps of IdrA on Shakuras to see if he scouted that spot with overlord, or if he early drone scouted... Both which he didnt, so I decided to do that build. Its 12/14 so its not at all allin anyway.

I dont feel comfortable playing IdrA in a long game yet...


Brilliant play Jinro really like that you study you opponents weakness. Champions do that, now win the hole thing:D
Beren
Profile Joined June 2010
United States514 Posts
October 02 2011 05:51 GMT
#1115
On October 02 2011 14:48 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
I checked some reps of IdrA on Shakuras to see if he scouted that spot with overlord, or if he early drone scouted... Both which he didnt, so I decided to do that build. Its 12/14 so its not at all allin anyway.

I dont feel comfortable playing IdrA in a long game yet...


I think its cool you admit not wanting to playing a macro game with him as well as the incite on why you did that build. Thanks puts a different twist on it
Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
October 02 2011 05:51 GMT
#1116
On October 02 2011 14:48 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
I checked some reps of IdrA on Shakuras to see if he scouted that spot with overlord, or if he early drone scouted... Both which he didnt, so I decided to do that build. Its 12/14 so its not at all allin anyway.

I dont feel comfortable playing IdrA in a long game yet...


Smart and absolutely correct to do. Well done, congrats on winning another series vs Idra. Hope you can go all the way man
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
October 02 2011 05:51 GMT
#1117
On October 02 2011 14:48 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
I checked some reps of IdrA on Shakuras to see if he scouted that spot with overlord, or if he early drone scouted... Both which he didnt, so I decided to do that build. Its 12/14 so its not at all allin anyway.

I dont feel comfortable playing IdrA in a long game yet...

Great job Jinro!!!!!! take that last win to move out of group!!!!
Most Skilled Current esport Games Scbw>Sc2>Cs1.6>Dota2>Hon>Loopin Louie The Drinking Game>LoL
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 02 2011 05:51 GMT
#1118
On October 02 2011 14:50 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 14:43 sirreginold wrote:
Wow. went to the restroom and g3 is over already.
Same here o_o what the hell happened in that game...?

Triple bunker rush with 2 barracks, one of which was proxied in a location that, like Jinro said, IdrA doesn't tend to scout.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
ForeverSleep
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada920 Posts
October 02 2011 05:52 GMT
#1119
On October 02 2011 14:50 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 14:43 sirreginold wrote:
Wow. went to the restroom and g3 is over already.
Same here o_o what the hell happened in that game...?


2 rax from jinro and idra fails to defend, as usual in fact
"Life is what happens to you while you’re busy making other plans" - John Lennon
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
October 02 2011 05:52 GMT
#1120
On October 02 2011 14:48 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
I checked some reps of IdrA on Shakuras to see if he scouted that spot with overlord, or if he early drone scouted... Both which he didnt, so I decided to do that build. Its 12/14 so its not at all allin anyway.

I dont feel comfortable playing IdrA in a long game yet...

Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 14:48 Yamulo wrote:
On October 02 2011 14:43 s4life wrote:
Isn't it time we stop talking about Idra like if he was a top player? he's obviously just another zerg player right now.. stephano, nerchio and sheth have surpassed him already

I know.. People just follow his name, and even though his results have been about even with jinros in tournament play his name sticks more. I really don't know why. I mean you could even argue (and by argue I mean state...) that 2 ro4 gsls + an mlg is better than mlg and ipl 1.

In terms of outright wins maybe, but you have to keep in mind how much more relevant IdrA has been in the last..... I dont know, 6 months maybe? Basically I went through a really long period where I've just lost early almost every tournament, and not even felt confident enough to want to play in teamleagues.

IdrA on the other hand has consistently made it far in MLGs, and is the perennial EG ace in teamleagues... I think its mostly a deserved difference in attention.


I still think you could take him in a long game if you just went more marine heavy then you would vs most zergs since he favors a lot more mutas and heavy marine styles just seem to destroy him in TvZ.
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