That's a pretty bold complain after HuK beat oGsMC 4-1 at MLG. I guess Elfi is way waaayyy better than MC then?

Elfi played better than HuK these games. That's all you should make of it. HuK has proven he's one of the best (if not the best) foreign player. Him losing one game doesn't change that.

Wroshe

Netherlands1051 Posts

November 04 2011 11:49 GMT

#422

On November 04 2011 20:48 halvorg wrote:

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Looking at his TLPD there arent many wins against top tier zergs, yeah he consistently beats machine, haypro and sheth(Neither of these I count as top ZvZ foreigners). Trades pretty evenly with Ret and loses to Sen and Nerchio, does this make his ZvZ insane or just good?

I personally feel that IdrA's ZvZ is about 4th outside of Korea with Stephano, Nerchio and Dimaga all having better ZvZ.

Edit: Make that 5th. I forgot to count Sen.

qazadex

Australia473 Posts

November 04 2011 11:49 GMT

#423

On November 04 2011 20:48 Pandemona wrote:
LOL!!

HuK > Elfi on every level.

Elfi beat a REALLY SHIT HuK, if you dont see HuK playing REALLY bad then you don't know what HuK is capable of.

Elfi did a straight up build multiple times and HuK played like he was still asleep. If you follow him on twitter and shit, you will see that he said HE IS SO TIRED. He played like he was Tired, im pretty sure that if you think Elfi and his 60-20 something win rate in PvP is better than HuKs ownage of Naniwa/MC/Killer and others in Korea in PvP is still worst than Elfi the "king of PvP" then your all dillusional.

Elfi won, well done he beat a really tired/jet lagged HuK in his home country.

Elfi 60% win rate on EU ladder @ PvP vs HuK PvP legend on KR and in BIG level tournaments....Elfi is way better yo

This post hurt my eyes...

Velr

Switzerland10903 Posts

November 04 2011 11:49 GMT

#424

On November 04 2011 20:45 MBH wrote:
base and even kill probes. That was a mistake.

elfi maybe isn't on the same level mechanicaly but his gameplan and general build execution was far superior to Huk in almost every game.

Don't you know it yet?

Because Koreans (and Idra) have staggering mechanics everyone that’s winning whiteout "staggering" mechanics is a fluke (Idra said so! I believe..)... ...

As to Huk vs Elfi.
4 Gate is strong in PvP... 4 Gate outright kills greedy builds.. So why do the "superior" players not just start using 4 Gate proof builds? No one knows, chances are 4 gate will be nerfed completely out of the game before we will know ^^.

Jibba

United States22883 Posts

November 04 2011 11:50 GMT

#425

On November 04 2011 20:33 anonymitylol wrote:
Wait, are they seriously casting this right behind them with no booths or anything?

.........What?

I guess we wait for IdrA or someone to make a comment.

Even headphones + in-ears, that's awfully close to someone loud like TB.

shell

Portugal2722 Posts

November 04 2011 11:50 GMT

#426

Man huk is the most successfull foreign player with 4 major wins besides stephano that won 2 major tournaments with bigger prizepools..

ViperPL

Poland1775 Posts

November 04 2011 11:50 GMT

#427

It's just the beginning for Elfi, soon he will kick Huk out of code S yarr!

JohnMatrix

France1358 Posts

November 04 2011 11:50 GMT

#428

On November 04 2011 20:46 JayJay_90 wrote:

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Actually the noise-cancelling headphones they wear are far more important for blocking out noise than the booths are. Sure, booths help, but it's not the main thing.

@ 1:30

it was the same at the ESWC

NKsc2

Sweden133 Posts

November 04 2011 11:50 GMT

#429

Haha! I was literally laughing when I heard the commentators even mentioning elfi and underdog and pvp in the same sentence. I've watched elfi's pvp vs MaNa and in several online tournaments. I was almost shocked HuK managed to take 1 game off of him, but still. 3-1 is good! HuK is one of the better foreign protosses there is! ggwp elfi, I wish you the best of luck in the tournament! (I'm not bashing huk btw, he's great for a north american. And his pvz is better than elfi's. But in general as players, Elfi IS better than huk, it's more of a fact than an opinion. Much love to HuK tho and gl in the gsl!)

provrorsbarn

Sweden766 Posts

November 04 2011 11:50 GMT

#430

Is the next game really in 40 min ? :O why the long wait

nam nam

Sweden4672 Posts

November 04 2011 11:50 GMT

#431

On November 04 2011 20:49 shell wrote:
People are so quick to dismiss players just because they lose once.. for fuck sake elfi is on his country practicing like a madman to face huk..

huk doesn't even know who elfi is and didn't practice for him plus he comes from korea like yesterday, it's not suprising at all huk lost!

This is not giving excuses, this is stating the facts, i don't mean to diss elfi but this is not a "normal" game beetween them and doesn't mean much or atleast doesn't mean elfi >>>> huk ..

I'm pretty sure he knew who elfi is.

HappyChris

1534 Posts

November 04 2011 11:51 GMT

#432

Well played Elfi.

I actually expected that Elfi might beat Huk. Elfi is sick good in PvP so not really supricing

nick1689

Australia494 Posts

November 04 2011 11:51 GMT

#433

Errrr are they going to wait another 40min for the next match now, or they going to start it straight away?

ZenithM

France15952 Posts

November 04 2011 11:51 GMT

#434

On November 04 2011 20:47 mazqo wrote:
There are plenty of guides how to stop 4gate. You cant just make a sentry. You have to go outside of your base either with 1 zealot and 2 stalker or 3 stalkers to stop other guy warping under your ramp @ 5:45, so you force them to warp from further distance which buys you time to get sentry and warpgate ready.

I think you meant to say "You can just make a sentry". There was nothing dangerous about elfi's 4gate (well at least the last one) except the raw unit count and warpgate timing. Just forcefield your ramp, warp in your units and you're good to go. The danger of 4gate nowadays is having a pylon below his ramp or even worse, in his main. There was nothing of this sort in the last game.

Ryncol

United States980 Posts

November 04 2011 11:51 GMT

#435

Some of you guys are so obnoxious. Huk made mistakes and Elfi played a little bit better. That's all there really is to it.

Nash

151 Posts

November 04 2011 11:51 GMT

#436

Wow worst OP ever. Not even a link to the stream or a schedule.

qazadex

Australia473 Posts

November 04 2011 11:51 GMT

#437

On November 04 2011 20:48 Hnnngg wrote:
You guys are missing the point.

Let's compare this to something else. Idra's run at IEM Guangzhou. You could've watched Jinro beat Idra in the group stages, and then see Idra beat Puma in a bo5 in the semi-finals. What went different in those games? Puma played well and didn't cheese Idra just to make money.

We've been cheated of great games by Elfi. Shame on him for knocking out DreamHuk, Homestory Huk, and MLG Huklando with 4gate. It's not very sportsman like and my enjoyment of high level games with a Protoss has been dashed.

I do not like you, Mr. Elfi. Not one bit.

I would argue that not attempting to give yourself the best chance of winning is being a bad sport. It is a competition, after all.

Xcobidoo

Sweden1871 Posts

November 04 2011 11:52 GMT

#438

Next time at work, I will state "I am tired" in the morning, then whenever I make a mistake I can just blame that.
Sure he was tired, but if you are SO much better, then you win anyway. Your statement was pretty much the essence of someone being butthurt...

TotalBiscuit

United Kingdom5437 Posts

November 04 2011 11:52 GMT

#439

Dimaga is getting lag on B.net atm. They are trying to sort it out. The sounds you heard in the background were from a replay while the production team made some adjustments to the overlay.

Nadarath

98 Posts

November 04 2011 11:52 GMT

#440

Butthurt much ?
It is only HuK fault for overexteding himself. If he cannot provide good play why go and play in first place ? This is real world not some fairy tale where HuK is prince and every other player is bad monster...