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Vorenius
Denmark1979 Posts
That's a pretty bold complain after HuK beat oGsMC 4-1 at MLG. I guess Elfi is way waaayyy better than MC then? Elfi played better than HuK these games. That's all you should make of it. HuK has proven he's one of the best (if not the best) foreign player. Him losing one game doesn't change that. | ||
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Wroshe
Netherlands1051 Posts
On November 04 2011 20:48 halvorg wrote: Looking at his TLPD there arent many wins against top tier zergs, yeah he consistently beats machine, haypro and sheth(Neither of these I count as top ZvZ foreigners). Trades pretty evenly with Ret and loses to Sen and Nerchio, does this make his ZvZ insane or just good? I personally feel that IdrA's ZvZ is about 4th outside of Korea with Stephano, Nerchio and Dimaga all having better ZvZ. Edit: Make that 5th. I forgot to count Sen. | ||
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qazadex
Australia473 Posts
On November 04 2011 20:48 Pandemona wrote: LOL!! HuK > Elfi on every level. Elfi beat a REALLY SHIT HuK, if you dont see HuK playing REALLY bad then you don't know what HuK is capable of. Elfi did a straight up build multiple times and HuK played like he was still asleep. If you follow him on twitter and shit, you will see that he said HE IS SO TIRED. He played like he was Tired, im pretty sure that if you think Elfi and his 60-20 something win rate in PvP is better than HuKs ownage of Naniwa/MC/Killer and others in Korea in PvP is still worst than Elfi the "king of PvP" then your all dillusional. Elfi won, well done he beat a really tired/jet lagged HuK in his home country. Elfi 60% win rate on EU ladder @ PvP vs HuK PvP legend on KR and in BIG level tournaments....Elfi is way better yo This post hurt my eyes... | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10876 Posts
On November 04 2011 20:45 MBH wrote: base and even kill probes. That was a mistake. elfi maybe isn't on the same level mechanicaly but his gameplan and general build execution was far superior to Huk in almost every game. Don't you know it yet? Because Koreans (and Idra) have staggering mechanics everyone that’s winning whiteout "staggering" mechanics is a fluke (Idra said so! I believe..)... ... As to Huk vs Elfi. 4 Gate is strong in PvP... 4 Gate outright kills greedy builds.. So why do the "superior" players not just start using 4 Gate proof builds? No one knows, chances are 4 gate will be nerfed completely out of the game before we will know ^^. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On November 04 2011 20:33 anonymitylol wrote: Wait, are they seriously casting this right behind them with no booths or anything? .........What? I guess we wait for IdrA or someone to make a comment. Even headphones + in-ears, that's awfully close to someone loud like TB. | ||
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shell
Portugal2722 Posts
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ViperPL
Poland1775 Posts
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JohnMatrix
France1358 Posts
On November 04 2011 20:46 JayJay_90 wrote: Actually the noise-cancelling headphones they wear are far more important for blocking out noise than the booths are. Sure, booths help, but it's not the main thing. @ 1:30 it was the same at the ESWC | ||
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NKsc2
Sweden133 Posts
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provrorsbarn
Sweden766 Posts
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
On November 04 2011 20:49 shell wrote: People are so quick to dismiss players just because they lose once.. for fuck sake elfi is on his country practicing like a madman to face huk.. huk doesn't even know who elfi is and didn't practice for him plus he comes from korea like yesterday, it's not suprising at all huk lost! This is not giving excuses, this is stating the facts, i don't mean to diss elfi but this is not a "normal" game beetween them and doesn't mean much or atleast doesn't mean elfi >>>> huk .. I'm pretty sure he knew who elfi is. | ||
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HappyChris
1534 Posts
I actually expected that Elfi might beat Huk. Elfi is sick good in PvP so not really supricing | ||
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nick1689
Australia494 Posts
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On November 04 2011 20:47 mazqo wrote: There are plenty of guides how to stop 4gate. You cant just make a sentry. You have to go outside of your base either with 1 zealot and 2 stalker or 3 stalkers to stop other guy warping under your ramp @ 5:45, so you force them to warp from further distance which buys you time to get sentry and warpgate ready. I think you meant to say "You can just make a sentry". There was nothing dangerous about elfi's 4gate (well at least the last one) except the raw unit count and warpgate timing. Just forcefield your ramp, warp in your units and you're good to go. The danger of 4gate nowadays is having a pylon below his ramp or even worse, in his main. There was nothing of this sort in the last game. | ||
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Ryncol
United States980 Posts
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Nash
151 Posts
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qazadex
Australia473 Posts
On November 04 2011 20:48 Hnnngg wrote: You guys are missing the point. Let's compare this to something else. Idra's run at IEM Guangzhou. You could've watched Jinro beat Idra in the group stages, and then see Idra beat Puma in a bo5 in the semi-finals. What went different in those games? Puma played well and didn't cheese Idra just to make money. We've been cheated of great games by Elfi. Shame on him for knocking out DreamHuk, Homestory Huk, and MLG Huklando with 4gate. It's not very sportsman like and my enjoyment of high level games with a Protoss has been dashed. I do not like you, Mr. Elfi. Not one bit. I would argue that not attempting to give yourself the best chance of winning is being a bad sport. It is a competition, after all. | ||
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Xcobidoo
Sweden1871 Posts
On November 04 2011 20:48 Pandemona wrote: LOL!! HuK > Elfi on every level. Elfi beat a REALLY SHIT HuK, if you dont see HuK playing REALLY bad then you don't know what HuK is capable of. Elfi did a straight up build multiple times and HuK played like he was still asleep. If you follow him on twitter and shit, you will see that he said HE IS SO TIRED. He played like he was Tired, im pretty sure that if you think Elfi and his 60-20 something win rate in PvP is better than HuKs ownage of Naniwa/MC/Killer and others in Korea in PvP is still worst than Elfi the "king of PvP" then your all dillusional. Elfi won, well done he beat a really tired/jet lagged HuK in his home country. Elfi 60% win rate on EU ladder @ PvP vs HuK PvP legend on KR and in BIG level tournaments....Elfi is way better yo Next time at work, I will state "I am tired" in the morning, then whenever I make a mistake I can just blame that. Sure he was tired, but if you are SO much better, then you win anyway. Your statement was pretty much the essence of someone being butthurt... | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
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Nadarath
98 Posts
On November 04 2011 20:48 Pandemona wrote: LOL!! HuK > Elfi on every level. Elfi beat a REALLY SHIT HuK, if you dont see HuK playing REALLY bad then you don't know what HuK is capable of. Elfi did a straight up build multiple times and HuK played like he was still asleep. If you follow him on twitter and shit, you will see that he said HE IS SO TIRED. He played like he was Tired, im pretty sure that if you think Elfi and his 60-20 something win rate in PvP is better than HuKs ownage of Naniwa/MC/Killer and others in Korea in PvP is still worst than Elfi the "king of PvP" then your all dillusional. Elfi won, well done he beat a really tired/jet lagged HuK in his home country. Elfi 60% win rate on EU ladder @ PvP vs HuK PvP legend on KR and in BIG level tournaments....Elfi is way better yo Butthurt much ? It is only HuK fault for overexteding himself. If he cannot provide good play why go and play in first place ? This is real world not some fairy tale where HuK is prince and every other player is bad monster... | ||
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