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Jackle
Canada859 Posts
On November 04 2011 20:45 Ketch wrote: He got into Code S on PvP, so I'd say his PvP is pretty good.... He lost to Inca 2-0 and then beat Choya 2-1, who is/was on a terrible spiral downwards and can't even make it past Code A Ro32 | ||
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Kevan
Sweden2303 Posts
On November 04 2011 20:50 Jibba wrote: I guess we wait for IdrA or someone to make a comment. Even headphones + in-ears, that's awfully close to someone loud like TB. Yeah MLG had problems with that before they were forced to get booths iirc. But atleast they are casting in english and not in a language that only one player can understand(ESWC). | ||
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KiNGxXx
7928 Posts
On November 04 2011 20:48 Pandemona wrote: HuK > Elfi on every level. Well, that's why he lost. Elfi beat a REALLY SHIT HuK, if you dont see HuK playing REALLY bad then you don't know what HuK is capable of. Elfi didn't play his best, too. And the whole jetlag thing is so ridiculous and an excuse. If he can't manage to travel and play his best...please stay at home next time! I won't ever say Elfi is better than Huk, no he isn't but today he was better - that's it! | ||
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ApolloSC2
United Kingdom804 Posts
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bbm
United Kingdom1320 Posts
On November 04 2011 20:51 Nash wrote: Wow worst OP ever. Not even a link to the stream or a schedule. the schedule's in the brackets image | ||
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anonymitylol
Canada4477 Posts
On November 04 2011 20:50 NKsc2 wrote: Haha! I was literally laughing when I heard the commentators even mentioning elfi and underdog and pvp in the same sentence. I've watched elfi's pvp vs MaNa and in several online tournaments. I was almost shocked HuK managed to take 1 game off of him, but still. 3-1 is good! HuK is one of the better foreign protosses there is! ggwp elfi, I wish you the best of luck in the tournament! (I'm not bashing huk btw, he's great for a north american. And his pvz is better than elfi's. But in general as players, Elfi IS better than huk, it's more of a fact than an opinion. Much love to HuK tho and gl in the gsl!) You don't sound biased towards European players at all. That line "he's great for a north american" is so ridiculously condescending it's borderline insane. | ||
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Xcobidoo
Sweden1871 Posts
On November 04 2011 20:51 Nash wrote: Wow worst OP ever. Not even a link to the stream or a schedule. Trolololo | ||
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Nadarath
98 Posts
On November 04 2011 20:51 Nash wrote: Wow worst OP ever. Not even a link to the stream or a schedule. Stream is on TB TwitchTV channel twitch.tv/totalbiscuit | ||
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RJGooner
United States2076 Posts
On November 04 2011 20:51 qazadex wrote: I would argue that not attempting to give yourself the best chance of winning is being a bad sport. It is a competition, after all. I think Hnnngg was being sarcastic | ||
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Peksi
Finland169 Posts
On November 04 2011 20:51 Nash wrote: Wow worst OP ever. Not even a link to the stream or a schedule. http://www.teamliquid.net/rog/ , stream on TL sidebar, results in Liquipedia. What else do you really need?  | ||
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Wroshe
Netherlands1051 Posts
On November 04 2011 20:51 Nash wrote: Wow worst OP ever. Not even a link to the stream or a schedule. Schedule is inside the bracket. Stream link should have been there though: www.twitch.tv/totalbiscuit | ||
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LittleAtari
Jordan1090 Posts
well at least huk is playing in the show matches. | ||
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Hnnngg
United States1101 Posts
On November 04 2011 20:51 qazadex wrote: I would argue that not attempting to give yourself the best chance of winning is being a bad sport. It is a competition, after all. If his best chance is doing that, then I don't want to watch. That was rubbish. That wasn't Idra vs. Bomber, that wasn't Huk vs. MKP, that wasn't Huk vs. July. I do not like it, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth showing these substandard games. Sorry but I was not. I do not like the calibre of play that Elfi has presented, at this tournament or at IEM Guangzhou. | ||
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Tantaburs
Canada1825 Posts
On November 04 2011 20:49 Velr wrote: Don't you know it yet? Because Koreans (and Idra) have staggering mechanics everyone that’s winning whiteout "staggering" mechanics is a fluke (Idra said so! I believe..)... ... As to Huk vs Elfi. 4 Gate is strong in PvP... 4 Gate outright kills greedy builds.. So why do the "superior" players not just start using 4 Gate proof builds? No one knows, chances are 4 gate will be nerfed completely out of the game before we will know ^^. They used to use 4 gate proof builds but then once everyone used fourgate proof build the used greedier builds to get ahead so now people are 4 gating again. The cycle will continue untill someone finds a greedy 4 gate proof build | ||
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mazqo
Finland368 Posts
On November 04 2011 20:51 ZenithM wrote: I think you meant to say "You can just make a sentry". There was nothing dangerous about elfi's 4gate (well at least the last one) except the raw unit count and warpgate timing. Just forcefield your ramp, warp in your units and you're good to go. The danger of 4gate nowadays is having a pylon below his ramp or even worse, in his main. There was nothing of this sort in the last game. No. If you make Zealot Stalker sentry, opponent can just come to your base with zealot and 2 stalkers or zealot and 1 stalker and force you to use your forcefield while building pylon under your ramp and then inside your base. Just like we saw in 3rd game, except elfi didnt 4gate there, but if he did, he would have won. | ||
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Tantaburs
Canada1825 Posts
On November 04 2011 20:54 Hnnngg wrote: If his best chance is doing that, then I don't want to watch. That was rubbish. That wasn't Idra vs. Bomber, that wasn't Huk vs. MKP, that wasn't Huk vs. July. I do not like it, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth showing these substandard games. to be fair to elfi those game were higher quality then HuK vs July at MLG | ||
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bumwithagun
United States153 Posts
On November 04 2011 20:44 Terminal wrote: If real EU players started going to these bigger tournaments, Huk certainly wouldn't be winning any MLG's etc. Sorry fanboys. Good job Elfi. 0_0 I always hear euros telling americans how foolish it is to be patriotic and root for players from your area blah blah blah Americans never know euro players blah blah blah.... But then huk loses ONE PvP to a pretty good PvPer and suddenly huk sucks and is falling out of codes S and won't win MLG's if EUROPEANS(!?) go. He beats koreans in GSL all the time and won an MLG (and another and two EUROPEAN tournies) with several very good koreans at it. You can't seriously tell me that huk isn't the best foreigner protoss (until we see another protoss like naniwa or sase start dominating foreign LANs or the GSL). Seriously get some perspective guys. huk didnt suddenly start sucking b/c he was tired from travel and lost a single PvP. He's still the best toss foreigners have right now. /rant | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On November 04 2011 20:52 KiNGxXx wrote: Well, that's why he lost. Elfi didn't play his best, too. And the whole jetlag thing is so ridiculous and an excuse. If he can't manage to travel and play his best...please stay at home next time! I won't ever say Elfi is better than Huk, no he isn't but today he was better - that's it! Agreed, no excuses. It was 1 bo5, and it's not even as though he had to play a bunch of games before then like MLG. If you have the excuse of jetlag then every other international LAN winner won through flukes inlcuding huk. | ||
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On November 04 2011 20:48 Hnnngg wrote: You guys are missing the point. Let's compare this to something else. Idra's run at IEM Guangzhou. You could've watched Jinro beat Idra in the group stages, and then see Idra beat Puma in a bo5 in the semi-finals. What went different in those games? Puma played well and didn't cheese Idra just to make money. We've been cheated of great games by Elfi. Shame on him for knocking out DreamHuk, Homestory Huk, and MLG Huklando with 4gate. It's not very sportsman like and my enjoyment of high level games with a Protoss has been dashed. I do not like you, Mr. Elfi. Not one bit. When you play badly, you lose. This, my friend, is an easy to understand fact of life. Huk just played horribly, what's the big deal... | ||
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