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On September 18 2011 01:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Oh stop whining you lot. Bunch of sissies on this forum. The only drama is coming from you guys. Enjoy the tournament and stop acting like this is TMZ XD
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
September 17 2011 14:55 GMT
#3121
On September 17 2011 23:53 WArped wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 23:50 zeru wrote:
On September 17 2011 23:50 mlgtvfan wrote:
THAT is why we say toss is overpowered.

Who's we? Don't you mean you?

Protoss the opposite of overpowered.


They are in no way overpowered, Hero is just incredible and IdrA made a few mistakes. A few mistake versus no mistakes will not win you the series against a player like Hero.


I don't think Idra was just expecting Protoss being played like that. You can see him flustered in game 2. He banked 5k minerals and brought back his whole army to defend some zealots.
sopas
Profile Joined July 2011
509 Posts
September 17 2011 14:55 GMT
#3122
amazing play by hero damn. crazy multiple attacks w/ prisms while expoing, figthing the main army etc
Trowa127
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1230 Posts
September 17 2011 14:56 GMT
#3123
Hero's multi-tasking is very good, that was a fun game.
Bling, MC, Snute, HwangSin, Deranging (<3) fan. 'Full name - ESP ORTS' Vote hotbid. Vote ESPORTS.
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
September 17 2011 14:56 GMT
#3124
On September 17 2011 23:45 Adventurekid wrote:
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On September 17 2011 23:44 Slakter wrote:
Does Hero have an observer? I couldnt see one. Idra has burrow so that can be important



Dont know.


He had one right in front of his 4th, and i think he had one other one around the map.
We talkin about PRACTICE
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
September 17 2011 14:56 GMT
#3125
Dapollo telling the truth tbh. Only Demuslim can be good enough to practice well enough. Well, anyways good games. Idra got outplayed on the 2nd game, but he didn't play bad there - more like HerO played absolutely well.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Pirat6662001
Profile Joined January 2011
Russian Federation949 Posts
September 17 2011 14:56 GMT
#3126
On September 17 2011 23:53 MenSol[ZerO] wrote:
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On September 17 2011 23:53 Pirat6662001 wrote:
On September 17 2011 23:52 Ammanas wrote:
WTF that was one of the BEST pvz I've ever seen. And I saw a lot. Great play from both of them! Really great! Loving Dreamhack so far. Now, Naniwa and Lucifron, gogogo! ^^

I disagree- both games depended on Idra making a mistake. Especially 2nd where idra was in dominating position. Both sides did not play a clean games. There is a huge room for improvement


hero played a little sloppy for the first 10-15 mins

but after that.....

well after u make a mistake in the begining u have to play flawless to win, which hero did (he had awesome last 10-15 mins there).
So.. this Earth, nice planet you might say- WRONG!!
Zaphid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1860 Posts
September 17 2011 14:56 GMT
#3127
Watching Hero is better than watching ladies make out.
I will never ever play Mech against Protoss. - MVP
AzurewinD
Profile Joined November 2010
United States569 Posts
September 17 2011 14:56 GMT
#3128
On September 17 2011 23:51 scatmango2 wrote:
Man Idra has some of the worst unit control I've ever seen. He wastes THOUSANDS of resources in uncontrolled units. Until he fixes that issue he'll never be as good as he used to.


His infestor control has been particularly disappointing.
"...I want more people to be in that state more often, to see things not through the limited and rigid mind or the fearful ego, but through a heart that loves to express and create" - Xiaonan "Glider" Sun
Roeder
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark735 Posts
September 17 2011 14:56 GMT
#3129
Get out of the picture, silly hand!
Starcraft is a mix between chess, poker and a Michael Bay movie.
Kimoto
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway70 Posts
September 17 2011 14:56 GMT
#3130
Yay, Protoss found a new way to roll over zerg! :D
EGIdrA - DIMAGA - oGsTheSTC - LiquidTLO
FlaDe
Profile Joined February 2011
Russian Federation6 Posts
September 17 2011 14:56 GMT
#3131
On September 17 2011 23:53 moofang wrote:
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On September 17 2011 23:50 Denzil wrote:
Tell me, why are Protoss complaining about Fungal Growth and Infestors?

Hero understands how they work and counters them.


By avoiding and walking around them with warp prisms and similar harass, which I think is increasingly defining the PvZ metagame. I find it weirder that there are still zerg complaining about the death ball. The age of death balls is more or less past, unless you mean the brood+infestor ball.



yes, it past but only becouse zerg finally found an answer for it. if np is nerfed toss death ball age will come back again
kurrysauce
Profile Joined October 2010
272 Posts
September 17 2011 14:56 GMT
#3132
Can't believe people are suggesting he drop 10+ spines at every base. Yeah , 4 x 10 = 40 drones. 40 drone . Have fun mining off 3 base with 30 drones. very well played by hero , feed backs were on point and his drops were amazing.

Makes me wonder what protosses have to say after that. " gateway units are blah blah blah blah against infestors blah" lol..
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
September 17 2011 14:56 GMT
#3133
On September 17 2011 23:53 iLikeRain wrote:
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On September 17 2011 23:52 BigKahunaBurger wrote:
On September 17 2011 23:52 iLikeRain wrote:
Out of curiousity, how is it possible that not a single Korean gamer, who doesn't live in the US can speak english?


Can you speak Korean?

I can speak my native language, english, german and spanish.


They all use the same alphabet, Korean and English don't. Even in UK I guarantee you no one who just goes to school and does french cannot speak french, they must learn it in another way. After doing 4 years of french all I can say is what my name is, and where I live -.-

The priority of learning english seems to be high in all european countries. Korea must not care much about it
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
September 17 2011 14:56 GMT
#3134
Updated the OP
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msjakofsky
Profile Joined June 2011
1169 Posts
September 17 2011 14:56 GMT
#3135
On September 17 2011 23:53 tomatriedes wrote:
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On September 17 2011 23:51 Eishi_Ki wrote:
On September 17 2011 23:50 Elroi wrote:
Why does the commentator say that Idra is playing extremely well all the time when he gets outplayed?


Because he loves idra amongst other reasons


Yeah Total Biscuit sounds like a complete Idra fanboy.


that's professional casting, just like when idra was casting cruncher vs someone

oh wait
BertiliO
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden134 Posts
September 17 2011 14:56 GMT
#3136
lol so much ambiance, why isn't the audience listening to the casters?
Headnoob
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2108 Posts
September 17 2011 14:56 GMT
#3137
Time for Naniwa to destroy rain, rain lost his korean level aura last MLG!
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
September 17 2011 14:56 GMT
#3138
On September 17 2011 23:54 scatmango2 wrote:
Will ANYONE bring up the fact that Idra has horrible unit control? He wasted about 9 infestors for NO reason. Idra killed himself more than Hero killing Idra in game 2.


his unit control was better than usual!

he got his infestors out of one battle alive, before losing them in the next engagement. that's almost doubling the survival rate of his infestors.
Pipeline
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1673 Posts
September 17 2011 14:56 GMT
#3139
Can the OP please update the results in his spoiler tag? It would be much appreciated
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
September 17 2011 14:56 GMT
#3140
:D
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