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On September 18 2011 01:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Oh stop whining you lot. Bunch of sissies on this forum. The only drama is coming from you guys. Enjoy the tournament and stop acting like this is TMZ XD
Pyrthas
Profile Joined March 2007
United States3196 Posts
September 17 2011 14:54 GMT
#3081
On September 17 2011 23:51 Arcanefrost wrote:
I missed it Could someone please tell me the rough outlines of hero's build?

expo, dt, get scouted, expo, lose army to roach/infestor, warp prism x2 + speed, play better than idra
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
September 17 2011 14:54 GMT
#3082
2GD is by far the best host I've ever seen. Dreamhack doing good work for ESPORTS.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
September 17 2011 14:54 GMT
#3083
Still saying T-Zain vs NaNi finals. HerO showed how to play ZvP but no zerg for him in semis!
#freeshauni
andycz
Profile Joined September 2011
288 Posts
September 17 2011 14:54 GMT
#3084
RAIN 2-0 NANIWA
Called it.
Always looking for practice partners. EU: andy.1535
Pirat6662001
Profile Joined January 2011
Russian Federation949 Posts
September 17 2011 14:54 GMT
#3085
Also- like Appolo said- there is no air- why not spread overlords so u can see the freaking drops incoming after the first couple happened
So.. this Earth, nice planet you might say- WRONG!!
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
September 17 2011 14:54 GMT
#3086
On September 17 2011 23:53 MrCon wrote:
TL had really some sick nose to pick up hero. I know they had huk and jinro inside the house to notice him, but still, they picked him up right as he exploded in the scene (or he exploded in the scene because they picked him up).
I mean, his korean TLPD was fucking awful, and now his int TLPD is bonjwa-like (not that he is one, please don't make a 20 pages debate because I used that word) with all matchups over 70%.


Someone from TL said that they wanted him since some months, but it didn't happen for some reasons.
wat
br0fivE
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada349 Posts
September 17 2011 14:54 GMT
#3087
why isnt the spoilers updated?? -_-
Corwintt
Profile Joined June 2010
Bulgaria85 Posts
September 17 2011 14:54 GMT
#3088
Hero really played absolutely brilliantly, but still I think Idra made too many mistakes for player with his ego. Still I am very happy that we have our first high level protoss win from a while.
Impossible is nothing
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
September 17 2011 14:54 GMT
#3089
hero truly shows how warp prism should be used.

I love all the protoss that used to tell me how bad protoss drops were. Hopefully they can learn a thing or two from Hero.

That is to be open minded to new strats
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9448 Posts
September 17 2011 14:54 GMT
#3090
On September 17 2011 23:52 amd098 wrote:
hero outplayed idra, and idra did not put a single ovie in the LOS blockers when he kept getting warped in and attacked from there.


This. Hero definitely outplayed IDra. Idra is prob used to NA toss who dont do this kind of multitasking. But with the kind of metagame shift we probably will see in the future zerg players will have to play pvz more like tvz. This means spreading overlords out, building crawlers at each base ( idra was at 200/200, had 4k+ minerals, knew hero had warp prisms, and yet did not consider massing crawlers at each base?).
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
September 17 2011 14:54 GMT
#3091
Idra had an absurdly advantage and still lost it... I just can't believe it... WTF WAS THAT HERO
IDRA MUST BE CRYING LOL
completely owned, like an amateur
Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
September 17 2011 14:54 GMT
#3092
On September 17 2011 23:52 iLikeRain wrote:
Out of curiousity, how is it possible that not a single Korean gamer, who doesn't live in the US can speak english?

That's like me saying why can't english premier league footballers speak any chinese? Stupid question.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
scatmango2
Profile Joined November 2010
United States408 Posts
September 17 2011 14:54 GMT
#3093
Will ANYONE bring up the fact that Idra has horrible unit control? He wasted about 9 infestors for NO reason. Idra killed himself more than Hero killing Idra in game 2.
Jtom
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland1044 Posts
September 17 2011 14:54 GMT
#3094
On September 17 2011 23:53 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 23:51 Eishi_Ki wrote:
On September 17 2011 23:50 Elroi wrote:
Why does the commentator say that Idra is playing extremely well all the time when he gets outplayed?


Because he loves idra amongst other reasons


Yeah Total Biscuit sounds like a complete Idra fanboy.

TB hates IdrA, they have a sour relationship. He's just trying too hard not to let his bias get in the way of his casting, which is a noble thing.
"Daddy, how did the Protossaurs go extinct?" "A giant EMP hit the earth" - Fionn
ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
September 17 2011 14:54 GMT
#3095
That game was disgusting

Disgustingly good by HerO oooh my god I am actually speechless, this guy's PvZ is so good, I bet you he's gonna love the warp prism buff
SooYoung-Noona!
Dev11
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia152 Posts
September 17 2011 14:54 GMT
#3096
On September 17 2011 23:52 iLikeRain wrote:
Out of curiousity, how is it possible that not a single Korean gamer, who doesn't live in the US can speak english?


my understanding is that most of them can speak some english but they wont speak it because they think its bad (And maybe it is) so they dont do it
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 14:56:15
September 17 2011 14:54 GMT
#3097
On September 17 2011 23:53 Geo.Rion wrote:
Protosses watch this VOD and learn, and stop complaining about PvZ. Hero was down ~50+ supply and made it look easy


As a Protoss player but a huge Idra fan, Idra had a very good chance to win if he went into July Zerg mode after the DT harass failed, but he decided to try and "get more ahead" and Hero took advantage of this.

Most other Zerg players (especially July) would have attempted to end the game after the failed DT harass, and most of the time it goes to Game 3.
Binabik
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany686 Posts
September 17 2011 14:54 GMT
#3098
On September 17 2011 23:53 Geo.Rion wrote:
Protosses watch this VOD and learn, and stop complaining about PvZ. Hero was down ~50+ supply and made it look easy

3500 overmins but no Spine Crawlers?

But Hero also played great, he got many Feedbacks of where another Fungal would've been game deciding.

And I like how he goes for that much Zealots, a unit which most Protoss (including me) didn't want to use in PvZ because it sucks to be maxed on them.
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
September 17 2011 14:54 GMT
#3099
It's amazing how much HerO has performed since his recruitment by Liquid.

He gets into Code A through the GSL qualifiers
He places 6th at MLG
He bossed all over Idra with interesting warp prism builds
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 14:55:33
September 17 2011 14:55 GMT
#3100
Could the IdrA fanboys stop whining? HerO had better multitasking than IdrA and used that to pick IdrA apart. It has nothing to do with balance obviously, zerg is doing extremely well in the MU as Im sure you know.

Edit: and btw, if IdrA used those 4k minerals to mass spines it would kind of counter that wouldnt it?
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