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On September 18 2011 01:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Oh stop whining you lot. Bunch of sissies on this forum. The only drama is coming from you guys. Enjoy the tournament and stop acting like this is TMZ XD

WArped

United Kingdom4845 Posts

September 17 2011 14:53 GMT

#3061

On September 17 2011 23:50 zeru wrote:

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Who's we? Don't you mean you?

Protoss the opposite of overpowered.

They are in no way overpowered, Hero is just incredible and IdrA made a few mistakes. A few mistake versus no mistakes will not win you the series against a player like Hero.

Teim

Australia373 Posts

September 17 2011 14:53 GMT

#3062

Hero really showing the power of the warp prism in this series.

Hero is an excellent pickup by Liquid btw. I think he will suppas Huk soon.

HEROwithNOlegacy

United States850 Posts

September 17 2011 14:53 GMT

#3063

On September 17 2011 23:52 TigerKarl wrote:
Hero is so strong. He's like one of the few Protoss in the world that are not stuck on the Winter2010/11 Protoss PvZ dominance and he brings the Protoss strategies to another level of intelligence. Good job!

One of the best and well put statements about protoss play I've seen made on forums, I salute you sir and completely agree.

iLikeRain

Denmark504 Posts

September 17 2011 14:53 GMT

#3064

On September 17 2011 23:52 BigKahunaBurger wrote:

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Can you speak Korean?

I can speak my native language, english, german and spanish.

Edit: But that's not the point. Most of the people who play computer games online have a good grasp of the English language. I'm just curious why Koreans don't?

AcuWill

United States281 Posts

September 17 2011 14:53 GMT

#3065

Why not use that 4-5k mineral bank to shore up the expansions with spines and shut any comeback window?

MenSol[ZerO]

Canada1134 Posts

September 17 2011 14:53 GMT

#3066

On September 17 2011 23:53 Pirat6662001 wrote:

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I disagree- both games depended on Idra making a mistake. Especially 2nd where idra was in dominating position. Both sides did not play a clean games. There is a huge room for improvement

hero played a little sloppy for the first 10-15 mins

but after that.....

ffdestiny

United States773 Posts

September 17 2011 14:53 GMT

#3067

Objectively, Idra was sitting with almost a 50 to 100 food lead for most of the game and was floating 3 to 5000 minerals for the majority of the time. He also had sparse cover in his main for counter attacks (even lacking 1 spine or spore for a bit) and would send most of his army to fend off the zealots at the 3rd or 4th. The greater spire was sniped without much effort. I don't think Idra is really playing near his ability, at least he didn't in this invitational.

A Wet Shamwow

United States1590 Posts

September 17 2011 14:53 GMT

#3068

On September 17 2011 23:52 Aegeis wrote:
What were the results for Huk vs Thorzain?

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Thorzain 2-1 Huk
1st game slightly normal game, bad open for huk
second, Huk held a really cool allin, came back and won
3rd ghost timing attack

grobo

Japan6199 Posts

September 17 2011 14:54 GMT

#3069

Hero's multitasking is unfuckingbelievable, i'm at a loss for words.

Game 2 was seriously sick.

dar0za

Canada74 Posts

September 17 2011 14:54 GMT

#3070

shuman vs orangemilkis grudge match!

RinconH

United States512 Posts

September 17 2011 14:54 GMT

#3071

Thinking about it more, although it was a great comeback by Hero, Idra really failed too.

He had soooo many minerals - why didn't he just make 6 spine crawlers at every expo?

sleepingdog

Austria6145 Posts

September 17 2011 14:54 GMT

#3072

On September 17 2011 23:52 Pirat6662001 wrote:

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But he was srsly ahead- 5k minerals, 1k gas. droping 20 spines at expos would prevent everything bad that happened.

this - even though the praise for hero is justified, IdrA could have easily defended by dumping half of his unspent ressources into tons of spine crawlers

zealots are terrible when spines cover the whole zerg base and IdrA definitely had the money to do so

Zihua

Netherlands177 Posts

September 17 2011 14:54 GMT

#3073

You know what would have helped Idra in this game? Like 50 spine crawlers.

Kznn

Brazil9072 Posts

September 17 2011 14:54 GMT

#3074

It's the kim taek yong revolution all over again. But this time, with hero <3

netsky4

Austria511 Posts

September 17 2011 14:54 GMT

#3075

Hero vs Thorzain, that might be the best series of the tournament in term of skill :O

Adventurekid

Sweden505 Posts

September 17 2011 14:54 GMT

#3076

On September 17 2011 23:53 najreteip wrote:
Wait a second...
This means we get Hero vs Thorzain

OH YES

SOOO AWESOME!!

Svenz00r

Sweden43 Posts

September 17 2011 14:54 GMT

#3077

"Koreans usually keep winning, thats a big problem we have here" - 2gd
lold hard

OGKruemmel

Croatia270 Posts

September 17 2011 14:54 GMT

#3078

HerOOOOO!

Serthius

Samoa226 Posts

September 17 2011 14:54 GMT

#3079

RmoteCntrld

United States596 Posts

September 17 2011 14:54 GMT

#3080

I wonder if IdrA will realize that everyone in the SC world is just laughing at him now. It's sad how far hes fallen since MC demolished him. He needs to realize that hes not losing because Protoss is imba. He's losing cause his game has just gone to shit sure he can still macro but everything else is terrible now.