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The following is a list of behaviors that will get immediate bans:

1. Whining about stream
2. Bashing other games
3. Flaming other users
4. Bashing players
5. Complaining about imbalance

Basically just be respectful. Aside from that, enjoy the games, make sure you bring an umbrella and have some delicious waffles! (#)
Eishi_Ki
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1667 Posts
August 27 2011 21:56 GMT
#5781
On August 28 2011 06:54 n00b3rt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:52 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
the hell is JF?

You naughty kid, go watch TSL 2 right away !


Or like, TSL1 n that...
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
August 27 2011 21:56 GMT
#5782
On August 28 2011 06:53 Lylat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:50 jyLee wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:48 Lylat wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:44 jyLee wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:43 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:42 jyLee wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:34 aresendez88 wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:32 Jakkerr wrote:
Am I the only1 that thinks that most games this tournament have been absolutely terrible?
ALMOST all of them turned out to be foreigner vs korean where the foreigner went into to it with the mindset 'This guy is better then me maybe I can cheese him out'.

I've barely seen any proper games.


90 times out of 100.

The Korean guy IS better than the foreigner. The dominance they've displayed now at three consecutive MLGs is starting to intimidate the players. I don't blame them at all.


Its more like 100 times out of 100. The very best foreigners in the world are not even Code A material imho and maybe not even Code B level either. Its just amazing how deeply talented and skilled the level of play in Korea is. Honestly the only way the gameplay will get better at MLG is to just invite more and more Koreans or all the foreigners go over to Korea and get insanely good.


You know there are numberous foreigners competing in Code A right?

And Huk is in the Ro8 of Code S?


You realize Huk and everyone thats in Code A is living in Korea right?

So what ? That doesn't make them korean.


Seriously people just stfu already about nationality. It has nothing to do with race. He plays and trains in Korea. Thats why hes so damn good. Huk himself says hes a Korean player so stop acting delusional.

I don't care they're still foreigner training in Korea.



Its an unstoppable chain that makes no sense. When you are foreigner in Korea and you lose you are a foreigner but when you win you are a Korean, so its impossible to count for anything else.
BjC
Profile Joined February 2011
England181 Posts
August 27 2011 21:56 GMT
#5783
there are 2 streams, been nothing on either of them for half hour now - going to bed. Please less down time MLG!
Montana[TK]
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
1624 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 21:57:07
August 27 2011 21:56 GMT
#5784
On August 28 2011 06:55 ReignFayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:53 aresendez88 wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:51 ReignFayth wrote:
Kiwikaki is definitely Code A material, if not Code S


Kiwikaki is nowhere close to Code S quality.

In case you forgot, MC got knocked down to the up and down matches this season as did Alicia.
Kiwikaki shows flashes of absolute brilliance. I wish he could hone that into a consistent beast of a game but so far they are just flashes.

You need more than occasional brilliance to survive the GSL. That's how Jinro got eliminated.

Sorry I don't see a huge difference in skill level between huk and kiwi, and I'm probably a better judge of that than every gold players that lurks teamliquid


Sorry but your opinion of a single player in Code S doesn't qualify another one to be considered of that skill level.
Plexa: "It's not [caster] bashing when its the truth."
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
August 27 2011 21:56 GMT
#5785
On August 28 2011 06:55 kilergrunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:50 jyLee wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:48 Lylat wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:44 jyLee wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:43 SafeAsCheese wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:42 jyLee wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:34 aresendez88 wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:32 Jakkerr wrote:
Am I the only1 that thinks that most games this tournament have been absolutely terrible?
ALMOST all of them turned out to be foreigner vs korean where the foreigner went into to it with the mindset 'This guy is better then me maybe I can cheese him out'.

I've barely seen any proper games.


90 times out of 100.

The Korean guy IS better than the foreigner. The dominance they've displayed now at three consecutive MLGs is starting to intimidate the players. I don't blame them at all.


Its more like 100 times out of 100. The very best foreigners in the world are not even Code A material imho and maybe not even Code B level either. Its just amazing how deeply talented and skilled the level of play in Korea is. Honestly the only way the gameplay will get better at MLG is to just invite more and more Koreans or all the foreigners go over to Korea and get insanely good.


You know there are numberous foreigners competing in Code A right?

And Huk is in the Ro8 of Code S?


You realize Huk and everyone thats in Code A is living in Korea right?

So what ? That doesn't make them korean.


Seriously people just stfu already about nationality. It has nothing to do with race. He plays and trains in Korea. Thats why hes so damn good. Huk himself says hes a Korean player so stop acting delusional.

I don't want to start anything, but why does this logic work on huk but not on select? select trains in NA does that make him a foreign player?


yes
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
August 27 2011 21:56 GMT
#5786
On August 28 2011 06:56 Kemy wrote:
Too many breaks so far...

And I don't understand all this hate against certain players (such as IdrA) when everything goes as usual so far: Koreans winning pretty much everything. It is very likely that of all the foreigners only HuK, Naniwa, Select and Kiwi will have more than 2 wins and I guess Nani and Huk may even count as Koreans by now. No really big upsets so far.

Nani not yet I think he's only been in Korea for 2-3 weeks
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
August 27 2011 21:57 GMT
#5787
omg I'm seriously considering a nap right now. dat downtime
LegendaryZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1583 Posts
August 27 2011 21:57 GMT
#5788
On August 28 2011 06:55 ReignFayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:53 aresendez88 wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:51 ReignFayth wrote:
Kiwikaki is definitely Code A material, if not Code S


Kiwikaki is nowhere close to Code S quality.

In case you forgot, MC got knocked down to the up and down matches this season as did Alicia.
Kiwikaki shows flashes of absolute brilliance. I wish he could hone that into a consistent beast of a game but so far they are just flashes.

You need more than occasional brilliance to survive the GSL. That's how Jinro got eliminated.

Sorry I don't see a huge difference in skill level between huk and kiwi, and I'm probably a better judge of that than every gold players that lurks teamliquid


The difference is that Huk is more consistent, which is actually a pretty huge factor.
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
August 27 2011 21:57 GMT
#5789
On August 28 2011 06:53 snafoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:50 Kevan wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:46 icarly wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:43 Zane wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:42 karis wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:40 kabar wrote:
don't see nada taking a series from puma. puma got this.


Know this is going to sound stupid but why does everyone think puma's great?

not trying to insult him but other then him winning the NASL i honestly have never heard him mentioned in terms of tourneys.

IEM.


he's pretty overhyped and overrated to be honest. at IEM he just beat a bunch of foreigners and than had a rematch with MC again, who is losing to just about everyone at the moment.

watching him doesn't feel the same as watching immvp


He got beat pretty handily at IEM by Mana btw. Mana should go to Korea, after a while there I'd say he could be Code S.



Why do people keep mentioning this? MC also beat Puma 2-0 whilst at IEM in the Sk Cup..... The games didn't matter... lol


It's not often a foreigner beats a player like Puma. Every time counts.
SC2, rip in pepperinos
Sleight
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
2471 Posts
August 27 2011 21:57 GMT
#5790
On August 28 2011 06:55 ReignFayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:53 aresendez88 wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:51 ReignFayth wrote:
Kiwikaki is definitely Code A material, if not Code S


Kiwikaki is nowhere close to Code S quality.

In case you forgot, MC got knocked down to the up and down matches this season as did Alicia.
Kiwikaki shows flashes of absolute brilliance. I wish he could hone that into a consistent beast of a game but so far they are just flashes.

You need more than occasional brilliance to survive the GSL. That's how Jinro got eliminated.

Sorry I don't see a huge difference in skill level between huk and kiwi, and I'm probably a better judge of that than every gold players that lurks teamliquid


Requoted for truth. Kiwi is on top of his game. HuK isn't untouchable. Even both at full form, they were always close to even. Nani, Kiwi, and HuK all are, honestly.
One Love
A Wet Shamwow
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1590 Posts
August 27 2011 21:57 GMT
#5791
On August 28 2011 06:55 ReignFayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:55 Flanq wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:53 ReignFayth wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:51 jyLee wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:51 ReignFayth wrote:
Kiwikaki is definitely Code A material, if not Code S

Troll.

ok Nada is definitely not code S material, he just got lucky

Do you actually watch the GSL? Nada is consistently Ro8/Ro4.

oh that clearly was too subtle -.-

it was pretty successful you got like half a page raging
“Life is a gamble, at terrible odds. If it were a bet you wouldn’t take it.”
Dusen
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark68 Posts
August 27 2011 21:57 GMT
#5792
I see more of the crowd then the games. An when there is a game both red and blue stream shows the same once.

I havne't paid for better quality, but would feel pretty screwed if i had.
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
August 27 2011 21:57 GMT
#5793
Was idra the only foreigner to get the Olympic symbol on Iccup or he's higher rank was A+?
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Empirimancer
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada1024 Posts
August 27 2011 21:57 GMT
#5794
Sorry I don't see a huge difference in skill level between huk and kiwi, and I'm probably a better judge of that than every gold players that lurks teamliquid


If you're only judging by the games they played at this MLG, I can see how you might think that, but not if you compare their performances at the last 3 or 4 last tournaments they've played in.

RoyAlex
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway420 Posts
August 27 2011 21:57 GMT
#5795
On August 28 2011 06:52 NexUmbra wrote:
Also people who say "NANI AND THORZAIN ARE RAPING KOREA!" lets take a look at TLPD

Thorzain - 4 wins 5 losses.
Nani - 1 win 4 losses
Fenix - 2 wins 5 losses


2 of those losses are from GSL arent they`? And the day the swedes were playing they had just arrived the day before and had some jet lag and not much practice even before that.
And considering most of the korean themselfs even has close to 50% win loss percent in gsl and gstl, only DRG, Nestea have like 70% on winrate.

So it does like pretty decent excluding the crappy gsl day they had.
Thorzain - 4 wins 3 losses.
Nani - 1 win 2 losses
Fenix - 2 wins 3 losses

Looks like any decent korean results to me, and they haven't been in korea practicing that long unlike the koreans.
TooN
Profile Joined February 2011
1046 Posts
August 27 2011 21:57 GMT
#5796
On August 28 2011 06:55 TT1 wrote:
tsl2 = nony tsl1 = jf, jf was probably the most talented sc1 player


I think savior or bisu was better but i donno
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
August 27 2011 21:57 GMT
#5797
The next series better be very good
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
August 27 2011 21:57 GMT
#5798
On August 28 2011 06:55 TooN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:55 Jyvblamo wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:54 ellirc wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:51 TT1 wrote:
man i want to see jf playing on the main stage so bad =[

Who is that guy?

Winner of TSL1, 4th place TSL2.


wrong.

Well thanks for providing the correct information if you think I'm wrong.
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
August 27 2011 21:57 GMT
#5799
On August 28 2011 06:55 ReignFayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:53 aresendez88 wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:51 ReignFayth wrote:
Kiwikaki is definitely Code A material, if not Code S


Kiwikaki is nowhere close to Code S quality.

In case you forgot, MC got knocked down to the up and down matches this season as did Alicia.
Kiwikaki shows flashes of absolute brilliance. I wish he could hone that into a consistent beast of a game but so far they are just flashes.

You need more than occasional brilliance to survive the GSL. That's how Jinro got eliminated.

Sorry I don't see a huge difference in skill level between huk and kiwi, and I'm probably a better judge of that than every gold players that lurks teamliquid


Hey Fayth whole different question.
Are you still a player for Team Reign.
I remember u being announced when the team was formed but u aren't in the team on TLPD but I never saw any message of u leaving?
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
August 27 2011 21:57 GMT
#5800
On August 28 2011 06:55 TT1 wrote:
tsl2 = nony tsl1 = jf, jf was probably the most talented foreign sc1 player


you mean the most abusive jk jk. watching draco v jf game 5 live was unparalleled nerd chills
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
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